jnr_ironside Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 I just sold Rebun De La Red (my vice-captain) 2nd season Real Madrid, at a loss because although he was a top performer he had such bad discipline and couldn't be relied on. 21 yellow and 4 red cards (2 reds in major cup finals). I had enough and sold him. Anyone else ever done similar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uusinjsh Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Yes, same with Gabri and Ajax. I can't say he was a star player, but consistent starting-lineup guy for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky1989 Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 In a game I started with Man U, Rio Ferdinand got sent off twice in the first two games he played for me. I promptly put him on the market, and eventually Fiorentina got him on loan for an initial fee of 10 million, with potentially 20 mill more to come. Coupled with a few other sales, I got Chiellini and never looked back. Till I got bored of the save anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lambs Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 If you fine them for straight reds and warn them for double yellows causing a red card you can lower the attributes that cause red cards. As long as you get the message that they accept their warning. I have turned some angry young players into well behaved stars in this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr_ironside Posted June 3, 2010 Author Share Posted June 3, 2010 I just couldn't see past his discipline it was weird. Never happened to me before. Normally I'm a stick by your players guy but his moaning about being treated unfairly for a warning for one of the cup final sendings off really got my goat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr_ironside Posted June 3, 2010 Author Share Posted June 3, 2010 If you fine them for straight reds and warn them for double yellows causing a red card you can lower the attributes that cause red cards. As long as you get the message that they accept their warning.I have turned some angry young players into well behaved stars in this way. Cool I will try it if I come across the same again. Thanks for the tip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Sold one of my promising youngsters because he was an absolute joke, partying two nights in a row (got two messages indicating he'd missed training in two consecutive days!). Free + 50% sell-on clause to Milan, where he eventually agreed to tutoring and improved his attitude dramatically. Was too late though - he never played in a top tier throughout his whole career. My scouts noted he'd become a good centre-back too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Yeah what it does is decrease their aggression most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdogg Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Daniel Alves for my Barca is geting on my tits now sent off 4 TIMES! and 18 yellows in only 27 GAMES!! Hes got so annoying for his last 2 red cards iv stright fined him 2 weeks wages lol and he declared unfair treatment might have to offload though Id hate to as hes world class Azpilicueta? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montanaro Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 yes. Had a great ball winning midfielder, but he can't win the ball if he's suspended! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdogg Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 yes. Had a great ball winning midfielder, but he can't win the ball if he's suspended! I think when it comes to a ball winning midfielder or "destroyer" i always like to see him gettin sent off nd suspended because that means he is doing his job very good, which is BREAKING BONES!!! lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albanie. Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Indeed. Got Arturo Vidal in on the cheap (only about £2m) and he played fantastic. Scored a couple of brilliant free kicks and was a consistently good performer. But all too often he got carried away and got sent off. And I couldn't keep track of the amount of players he injured in training. Once he was sent off in his return from a 3 match suspension after giving away a penalty. That was the final straw. He was dropped to the reserves and sold at the end of the season for around £8m. Tidy profit, glad to see his anger leave - it's a shame he was actually a good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham FM Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 nicky hunt for me always getting 1 match and 3 match suspensions.. not selling him thought he is a vital player for me and my captain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAF_85 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I just sold Rebun De La Red (my vice-captain) 2nd season Real Madrid, at a loss because although he was a top performer he had such bad discipline and couldn't be relied on.21 yellow and 4 red cards (2 reds in major cup finals). I had enough and sold him. Anyone else ever done similar? Ha, Ive currently signed him on a free in 2015 for my Sevilla game. As Im a harsh discpliniarian a la Stalin, no one gets sold for bad discpline, if they speak out, they apologise a week later. I always fine my players for bad performances, (really bad performances) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr_ironside Posted June 4, 2010 Author Share Posted June 4, 2010 Ha, Ive currently signed him on a free in 2015 for my Sevilla game. As Im a harsh discpliniarian a la Stalin, no one gets sold for bad discpline, if they speak out, they apologise a week later. I always fine my players for bad performances, (really bad performances) Cool.. I wish I had that authority.. Incidently, I sold De La Red to Sevilla.. He got sent off aainst us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradmonk Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Yes. If he cant stay on the pitch, he's a liability to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teej9 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I've had to sell Mascherano a few times. Once I recall he had 7 or 8 reds...or something ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE4life Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Sotiris Ninis keeps getting himself sent off for me recently... have had him for 6 seasons now, and this is the first season where he's been really bad. Has actually broken the club's bad discipline record this year i'm not going to sell him because he's bloody brilliant, last season got 29 assists but it's bloody annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev147 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Yeah Y.Toure in FM10 after the first season with Barca - he got 25 yellow's and 3 red's - but I did manage to get £25m for him - but I only sold him for his indisipline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koki Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I just sold Rebun De La Red (my vice-captain) 2nd season Real Madrid, at a loss because although he was a top performer he had such bad discipline and couldn't be relied on.21 yellow and 4 red cards (2 reds in major cup finals). I'm looking for a funny pun here.. anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daidaithesequel Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Ariel Ortega for River Plate, he just didnt like that i was a new inexperienced manager so he kept missing training, i fined the arse of him and he done one! Great player but don't mess wit the manager damnit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioslo Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 daniel alves at barcelona. he played great against small teams when i was comfortably winning. but he screwed up every important game of the season, getting yellow cards, being sent off etc. the last straw was a foul in the penalty box in 1/4 finals of CL against chelsea at home. I lost 1-0 thanks to him and went out. even though i drew 2-2 at stamford. sold him the very next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lambs Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 I have just been offered him for 975k by Real Madrid, I am seriously thinking of signing Rebun De La Red Card. I wonder if I can turn him into a model player, playing in a midfield with Barton and Alan Smith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdogg Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 daniel alves at barcelona. he played great against small teams when i was comfortably winning. but he screwed up every important game of the season, getting yellow cards, being sent off etc. the last straw was a foul in the penalty box in 1/4 finals of CL against chelsea at home. I lost 1-0 thanks to him and went out. even though i drew 2-2 at stamford. sold him the very next week. How much did u get for him? cuz iv got the same problem i posted earlier on this thread nd am considering selling up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonioslo Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 i offered him for 35 million euros. i could probably get more since man city was making offers and enquiries all season long, but i was so mad i just wanted to get rid of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golaxi Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 If you fine them for straight reds and warn them for double yellows causing a red card you can lower the attributes that cause red cards. As long as you get the message that they accept their warning.I have turned some angry young players into well behaved stars in this way. is it ever wise to fine them 2 weeks wages or is a 1 week fine always best? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lambs Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 is it ever wise to fine them 2 weeks wages or is a 1 week fine always best? I only fine 2 weeks if it is for violent conduct, but others fine 2 weeks more often. 1 week for a straight red and a warning for double yellows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULHOLMES Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 I only fine 2 weeks if it is for violent conduct, but others fine 2 weeks more often.1 week for a straight red and a warning for double yellows. The only thing I'd add is that you should take them off hard tackling after the first yellow. If you leave them on hard, it's your fault if they get the second yellow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lambs Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 The only thing I'd add is that you should take them off hard tackling after the first yellow. If you leave them on hard, it's your fault if they get the second yellow. I agree completely and I also do this as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
profpieman Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 I once sacked Tom Curtis many years ago while managing Portsmouth in the Championship for giving away a last minute pen in the Playoff Final which we lost!!!!! Does that count? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorr666 Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Yeah i had a save with Newcastle that in the first season Steven Taylor was uncontrollable, he was getting sent off almost every month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevio11 Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Sold Mascherano after 6 red and 40 yellow cards in 2.5 seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
walsh Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Anthony Annan was the bane of my life at Getafe, had to get rid before I pulled all my hair out... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossy1686 Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 Never, you can beat that sort of behavior out of your players by coming down hard on them when they do something stupid. I had Vidic get sent off about 5 times in one season then the next season 3 then about once after that but i've found it depends how much squad discipline you have. Don't have a problem with it anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc5sb Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 in 07 with Tevez and Mascherano at West Ham one of them seemed to punch someone every couple of weeks, the bans kept getting extended and i think Tevez ended up with an 8 match ban at one point! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
interesti88 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 I rarely sell because of bad discipline, but i would sell one of my star players if they constantly under performed over a 2 season period Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanchflower1 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 I have NEVER sold any star players due to bad discipline! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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