Discussion: Converting FM stats to PES

Hi, I got an idea to see what sort of teams and players I would come up with if I applied the more realistic FM attributes to Pro Evolution Soccer 2010. I am thinking of starting first with one league, Premiership or Serie A, and then playing in that league, if I have time I will recreate another one.

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Here are the PES attributes (and in-game description in needed):

Attack (Indicates a player's suitability to an attacking role.)

Defence (Indicates a player's suitability to a defensive role.)

Body Balance

Stamina

Top Speed

Acceleration

Response

Agility

Dribble accuracy

Dribble speed

Short pass accuracy

Short pass speed

Long pass accuracy

Long pass speed

Shot accuracy

Shot power

Shot technique (Indicates the ability of players to finish even from awkward positions and angles)

Free kick accuracy

Swerve (Free kick)

Header

Jump

Technique (Indicates the level of control when a player traps the ball.)

Aggression (Indicates how likely the player is to join the attack.) ?!?

Tenacity (Indicates how well a player copes with fatigue and adversity.)

Goal Keeping Skills

Teamwork

Form (Indicates a player's ability to maintain form when played regularly.)

Weak foot accuracy

Weak foot frequency

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Here's how I thought of relating FM stats to PES stats, please advise me otherwise if you don't agree, I will use percentages to add up the total of the skills:

Attack: Off the ball 60%, Anticipation 40%

Attack I notice in PES is mostly being in the right place at the right time as a forward, Inzaghi has an excellent 97/100 for this.

Defence: 10% Tackling, 30% Marking, 50% Positioning, 10% Concentration

There is no Tackling/Marking/Positioning in PES so it all has to be incorporated here.

Body Balance: Strength 50%, Balance 50%

Stamina: Stamina 100%

Top Speed: Pace 100%

Acceleration: Acceleration 100%

Response: Anticipation 100% (Reflexes 100% for keepers)

Agility: Agility 100%

Dribble accuracy: Dribbling 60% , Creativity 20%, Flair 20%

Dribble speed: Dribbling 50% , Pace 25%, Acceleration 25%

Short pass accuracy: Passing 70%, Decisions 30%

Short pass speed: Passing 70%, Technique 30%

Long pass accuracy: Crossing 50%, Passing 50%

Long pass speed: Crossing 70%, Technique 30%

Shot accuracy: Finishing 60%, Composure 40%

Shot power: Finishing 50%, Long Shot 50%

Shot technique: First Touch 40%, Technique 40%, Finishing 20%

Free kick accuracy: Free kicks 100%

Swerve: Free kicks 50%, Corners 50%

Header: Heading 100%

Jump: Jump 100% (Subtract if player is tall).

FM takes height into consideration for jumping but PES does not.

Technique: 50% Technique, 50% First Touch

Aggression - not sure (read description above)

Tenacity: Work rate 50%, Aggression 25%, Determination 25%.

Goal Keeping Skills: Handling 40%, Aerial Ability 40%, Command of area 20%

Teamwork: Teamwork 90%, Positioning 10%

Form: Consistency 100%

Weak foot accuracy: Opposite foot 100%

Weak foot frequency: Decisions 100%

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So how to you rate my interpretations? You have any changes you would make?

FM takes height into consideration for jumping but PES does not.

FM doesnt take height into consideration A player that is 2 meters will jump just as high as player that is 1 meter if they have the same jump stat.

Defence: 30% Tackling, Marking, Positioning each, 10% Concentration

I belife the "defence" stat in PES is only for defensive positioning, and has nothing to do with tackling, marking, etc, those are special stars/cards. Am I mistaken?

FM doesnt take height into consideration A player that is 2 meters will jump just as high as player that is 1 meter if they have the same jump stat.

I think that's what he's saying. In PES, height is not incorporated into the jumping attribute, but it is in FM.

Short pass accuracy: Passing 70%, Decisions 30%

Short pass speed: Passing 70%, Technique 30%

Long pass accuracy: Crossing 50%, Passing 50%

Long pass speed: Crossing 70%, Technique 30%

Tenacity: Work rate 50%, Aggression 50%

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I think

Tenacity: 50% work rate, 50% determination

And for the passing stats, I think Creativity, Decisions, Influence and Teamwork could possibly be part of the conversion.

Thanks, I edited it to 50% work rate, determination, aggression 25%.

And teamwork is already a stat in PES, and I believe Influence doesn't affect passing at all.

Google "gortop pes football manager" minus quotes - there's a spreadsheet out there which converts FM2008 to PES6.

I belife the "defence" stat in PES is only for defensive positioning, and has nothing to do with tackling, marking, etc, those are special stars/cards. Am I mistaken?

I made positioning more important, I do think defence in PES does improve tackling and marking abilities of players.

Google "gortop pes football manager" minus quotes - there's a spreadsheet out there which converts FM2008 to PES6.

I need one for FM2010 and PES2010, and I wanted to discuss the best attribute conversions in here. I`m sure Gortop`s aren`t perfect.

Of course but it could be used as a starting point.

I need a favor. Could someone please post a FM 2010 save from the 10.3 patch, with English and Italian first leagues loaded?