HamSandwiches Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 With different nationalites, such as Brazilian, Italian etc. Whats the exact parameters for them being homegrown? I've got a few players that are around 20/21/22 that have been at my club Man Utd for four seasons + and are classed as home grown. Which is great as the English players are crap, also i have three Scottish players but they're not classed as home grown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philgreg1 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 They've got to be trained at the club (or another english club) for a significant number of years. Take the example of Arsenal: Senderos is home grown, as is Bendtner as they were brought in at the age of 16. While I can't remember the exact number of years they need to be trained at an english club, I'm fairly sure they'll need to be in-country from the age of 16 (hence why your own youth products / any youths you've bought off other english clubs young will qualify, but those bought from abroad won't). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1389 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 It's 3 years training before the age of 21, regardless of nationality. Having a kid out on loan for 3 years still counts as being trained by your club iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lambs Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 For an English team the current definition is: "a home grown is a player trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system." So they must of trained in the League system you play in for at least 3 years before they are 21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1389 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 For an English team the current definition is: "a home grown is a player trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system." So they must of trained in the League system you play in for at least 3 years before they are 21. Just to be clear, that's for homegrown in the country, HG club is the same thing but the player must be owned by your team for those three years training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lambs Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Just to be clear, that's for homegrown in the country, HG club is the same thing but the player must be owned by your team for those three years training. That is correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pn75 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 so if I sign a player at 18 and he can't get a work permit, loan him to my Belgian feeder for 3 seasons does he then be HG for me or for my Belgian affiliate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 He'll be home grown. Best thing to do is put him in the reserves for two seasons, then loan him out to another club. He'll be ripe for the first team at 19 - 21 years of age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pn75 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 He'll be home grown.Best thing to do is put him in the reserves for two seasons, then loan him out to another club. He'll be ripe for the first team at 19 - 21 years of age. thanks, but I'll need him to get a EU passport first, hence the 3 years in Belgium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunjc Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 its before they turn 21? right so if u sign an 18 year old he could end up being a few days short of getting the HG status, best to sign them at 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev147 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 its before they turn 21? right so if u sign an 18 year old he could end up being a few days short of getting the HG status, best to sign them at 17 Yeah but I thought - though I may be wrong that if you loan a player out to a foreign club (not your country) this therefore does not count towards trained as club/nation for that particular year - but I could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryknow Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 He's your player, you hold his rights. He's just going to another club on 'loan' so he does count towards your HG status. Sometimes signing Brazilians you can miss out because you can only get them when they turn 18, so if they can get to your club at that point then they will most likely be under the required 3 years. Why isn't your youth intake already HG, surely some of them were in the academy as 13 year olds for instance. I'm sure this was in previous versions but now you have to wait 3 years from the intake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamshankley Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 How come none of the youth players that come thorugh, aren't given home grown status striaght away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltmurrayuk Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 How come none of the youth players that come thorugh, aren't given home grown status striaght away? They have to have been at your club for three years between the ages of 15 and 21. So the earliest a player can be classed as homegrown is when they turn 18. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryknow Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Ah now I get it, I was sure in previous versions youth intake would already be HG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lambs Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Can anyone confirm or deny that having a Youth Academy makes them home grown when they join your youth ranks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterWolf Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 It doesn't matter though, as you can play unlimited U21 players anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Can anyone confirm or deny that having a Youth Academy makes them home grown when they join your youth ranks? Denied They have to have been at your club for three years between the ages of 15 and 21. So the earliest a player can be classed as homegrown is when they turn 18. This is correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 It doesn't matter though, as you can play unlimited U21 players anyway. It matters when they hit 21 though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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