Mirko Spalletti Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 well . is this necessary ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestBromwichBrazil Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I've never used them once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I use them every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZone Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Depends on your team and tactics I suppose Personally, I view them as a way of temporarily focusing your tactics a certain way without actually altering them Whether that is the point or not, I don't know lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arijit Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Very much necessary. A great invention from SI. Saved my team's ass in many games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzrab Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Definately necessary. As said above i have manged to avoid defeat or snatch a win using touchline instructions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalMetro Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I use them to further prevent my players from taking (horrific) long shots, and to close out a close match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eles Gergo Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I rather tweak my tactics on the tactics screen manually... used them though, and they worked (but with my current tactics it's better this way) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham FM Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 i never used them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I use them each and every game and they are crucial to getting a result. Every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggy33 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Very necessary. They can turn a game around. I have 2 main incidents where I use them. 1) When there is 15 minutes left of a game, and I'm not winning, change to Overload and tick Shoot On Sight. 2) Whenever I play with quick (I mean Walcott/Krasic/Blaczcykowski standard), tick Pass Into Space, Exploit Flanks and Work Ball Into Box. This can get your winger a good 20 goals a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarian Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I only use them to try to close out games. Everything else I do using the tactics button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirko Spalletti Posted May 4, 2010 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 im trying a [pass into space] shoutout with [attacking] philosophy . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 The point of the shouts is that it replaces the need to go into the tactics screen, something that causes crashes for me on a regular basis. @ Mirko The pass into space shout increases the amount of through balls that are attempted, nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar$haLL Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 What does shoot on sight actually mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.matt Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 I only use get ball forward and I've im behind then overload and a bunch of other stuff which is attacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 What does shoot on sight actually mean? More long shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 I think they need to be imrpoved on how they affect the game. It just gets me confused with my original instructions, i dunno. I just got frustrated with them really and now happily don't use them, but if they're working for other people then thats fine i guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nippon14 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 http://www.fm-britain.co.uk/2009/11/04/what-do-the-touchline-instructions-or-shouts-actually-do/ Here you find what touchline instructions means. I use sometimes these insructions, but not always. When I lead after 80 min, I always tick "play even safer" and sometimes "clear ball to blanks". When my opponent lead after 80 min (my opponet has one goal more than I), I switch to overload style and tick "take more risks" and "get ball forward" options. Sometimes I tick also "pass into space". Before "final moments", I do not usually use touchline insructions. Sometimes I tick "work ball into box" or "pump ball into box". Sometimes I tick something else. It depends of my tactic. edit: Now link works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanchflower1 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 The point of the shouts is that it replaces the need to go into the tactics screen, something that causes crashes for me on a regular basis.@ Mirko The pass into space shout increases the amount of through balls that are attempted, nothing more. Have you reported that you game crashes most of the time to SI, mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 if you want to be a successful manager they are vital Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 if you want to be a successful manager they are vital Wrong. The fact i've had more success with classic tactics shows this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNS Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 i use "get stuck in" and "hassle opponents" every game find there great for pressuring teams into mistake and "work into box" because my team refuse to stop shooting from the halfway line ! - works for me in other words Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Wrong. The fact i've had more success with classic tactics shows this. you are WRONG! The fact that you don't know HOW to use the new tactics shows that you could have had more success with those but you prefer sticking with the old ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 you are WRONG! The fact that you don't know HOW to use the new tactics shows that you could have had more success with those but you prefer sticking with the old ones You're making no sense. I have more fun with the old ones, so yes i will stick with them thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 You're making no sense. I have more fun with the old ones, so yes i will stick with them thanks. Are you saying you use sliders rather than the tactics creator? If so I'm fairly certain that touchline instructions don't work, do you even get the option of using them? For the record all the creator & touchline instructions do is alter slider settings in the background which seems to be what you do manually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Are you saying you use sliders rather than the tactics creator?. I just convert too classic, if thats what you're asking? Its more fun as you can work out much quicker what to do if somethings going wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 It is fun for you man. don't generalise it. the new tactics are by far better, more fun and work better. WHat you prefer is your opinion. If they were better , SI would have stayed with them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 It is fun for you man. don't generalise it. the new tactics are by far better, more fun and work better. WHat you prefer is your opinion. If they were better , SI would have stayed with them Like i said earlier, if it works for others then fine, just don't attack me for using them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 who attacked you? you attacked me first by saying: " Originally Posted by Vangelis21 if you want to be a successful manager they are vital Wrong. The fact i've had more success with classic tactics shows this." end of discussion. enjoy playing as you like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 who attacked you? you attacked me first by saying:" Originally Posted by Vangelis21 if you want to be a successful manager they are vital Wrong. The fact i've had more success with classic tactics shows this." end of discussion. enjoy playing as you like it. I didnt attack you, i stated my opinion. But whatever. You were going on about how i need them if i need success and taking a cheap shot, but it doesn't matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 this is not attacking. you DO need them for success. it is a fact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 this is not attacking. you DO need them for success. it is a fact It isnt, my games proves this. Not going to continue this discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 it is a fact. th emajority of players say that, not me. if you could provide us with your amazing results, you could try and prove your point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 this is not attacking. you DO need them for success. it is a fact It's perfectly possible to be succesful without them. All those 'classic tactics' in the tactics forum and all the success they seem to bring go to show it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4L Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 As I understood it if you use classic tactics you can't use them (or they don't work as intended) so obviously they'd not be coupled with success or failure in that case. If you use the tactics creator however I have found them to be quite useful. I don't know about necessary but I think your chances are better if you learn what they do and use them accordingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 It's perfectly possible to be succesful without them. All those 'classic tactics' in the tactics forum and all the success they seem to bring go to show it. there you go, vangelis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 there i go what? was that some kind of a proof? don't use others to prove your point. you said you have good results with classic tactics. Show proof Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 there i go what? was that some kind of a proof? don't use others to prove your point. you said you have good results with classic tactics. Show proof Lol, get over it man. Im not gonna waste time. But ill tell you the success ive had so far with them: Got groningen up to 2nd so far in thw dutch league, and 1 game away from the cl but went into the euro cup(depsite not bein g able to sign anyone), also got to semi finals of the dutch cup. Won euro 2012 with england, won the confeds cup in 2013. Finished 2nd twice with inter only cause juventus never lose enough. I would've done even worse with touchline instructions, but won the italian cup v them. On my mates database, am having success with stoke bishop in the bristol downs league with ease. So, there you go. Im not gonna go and post screenshots when im not on the game/doing something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Forgot to add won the championship with newcastle also. Then easily up to mid table in the prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 lol, ok when you have some serious achievements, you can talk again about proof! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 lol, ok when you have some serious achievements, you can talk again about proof! that all you got? get a life. You've even had someone esle disagree with you yet you continue in your ignorance, if that pleases you then go ahead, carry on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangelis21 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 you must be pretty young. you are fighting on your own here and you still don't get it! you said that classic tactics work for you better than the new ones. You said that you have good results with that. But you haven't actually achieved anything important in the game. All these together prove that you were wrong initially. just accept it, it will make you a better person Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 you must be pretty young. you are fighting on your own here and you still don't get it! you said that classic tactics work for you better than the new ones. You said that you have good results with that. But you haven't actually achieved anything important in the game. All these together prove that you were wrong initially. just accept it, it will make you a better person You're the one who doesn't get it. I've enjoyed the game FAR MORE WITHOUT TOUCHLINE INSTRUCTIONS(doesnt matter what team i was either). Do you not get that yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Ok, cut it out now. Debate like adults or don't post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadiq Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 I use them simply because they save me time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Vangelis- the shouts do things you can easily do with classic changes. It's a case of what suits the individual better. I don't necessarily agree with what all the shouts do, but they're much quicker than manual changes for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZone Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 If anything, shouts are simply shortcuts imo I've personally only used the new tactic model within FM10, so can't comment on how well the classic works, but if people have success, good on them But then, if it was worthless, why would SI even leave it in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 If anything, shouts are simply shortcuts imoI've personally only used the new tactic model within FM10, so can't comment on how well the classic works, but if people have success, good on them But then, if it was worthless, why would SI even leave it in? You answered it yourself, they're shortcuts, but imo don't always work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 You answered it yourself, they're shortcuts, but imo don't always work. They always do what they are meant to do. Is it the right tactical option? well thats another story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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