TacticalGenius Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Erm, what are they? I'm only in November (2019), but we've spent over £9m on these costs so far this season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytheway Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 im not sure tbh, probably debts and maybe stadium costs?? cleaning up after a game must be a big job with a decent amount of staff on the payroll twice a week. not 9mil worth but with debts aswell...maybe they all come under the same thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 My loan repayment is only £170k p/m though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Scouting, sending players to specialists... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 But £9m in only a few months? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytheway Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 haha where u sending them??? bermuda lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 1 scouting Central Europe (roaming) 1 scouting South America (roaming) and that's it so far... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytheway Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 ya scouts are havin you off, they're just avin one big partyin holiday around europe and south america with you footing the bill lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 Probably! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carradona Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Manager: "Go scout central europe!" Scout: "Yes boss, sir!" Scout then checks in to the closest hotel, living on roomservice and adult PPV for a week or two, and then reports back with: "Notthing worth going after." I can totally see that happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytheway Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Manager: hey thought i'd give you a call just to see how things are going? found any good propects? Scout: ermmmm nah not yet gaffa, im in italy at the moment and all i got is the population size Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 £1.99m this month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Scouting, sending players to specialists... Surely they are footballing costs? Do you know this for sure or is this a guess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 For sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted April 29, 2010 Author Share Posted April 29, 2010 To test that theory I've cancelled all but one scouting assignment, to see if the costs drop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Look at the big clubs and the percentage they spend on wages. that's around 60% of the revenues. Take a club with 100m in annual revenues, the it spend 40m a year on other things irl. What proportion of that would be 'non-football costs' and is up to definition, but the figure itself sounds okay when comparing it to real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonheat Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 well non-football cost could include policing the stadium, cleaners, food,drink servers and stewards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZone Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Wouldn't they be "match-day expenses" and "Ground Maintenance"? And remember, there is also the category of "other", which should be the same thing as non-football costs, but would still be costing an arm and a leg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonheat Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Wouldn't they be "match-day expenses" and "Ground Maintenance"?And remember, there is also the category of "other", which should be the same thing as non-football costs, but would still be costing an arm and a leg yeah true, i'm now all out of ideas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestBromwichBrazil Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I sacked every member of staff to test this theory but its still very high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Could it possibly be insurance? As a football team is a business (I think), every employee needs to be insured. This is all I could really come up with, apart from contracts outside the club, like lawyers, consultants and such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 So basically we are none the wiser! Anyone from SI care to enlighten the masses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevio11 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Can't someone from SI please tell us as this question has been asked before. I don't think we are wide of the mark with what we think but it would be nice to be told. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted April 30, 2010 Administrators Share Posted April 30, 2010 It's the amount of non-football staff wages paid out by the club. I think other aspects are taken into account as well, but I'll need to check to see what these are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZone Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 It's the amount of non-football staff wages paid out by the club. I think other aspects are taken into account as well, but I'll need to check to see what these are. So Secretaries and PA's for example? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 It's the amount of non-football staff wages paid out by the club. I think other aspects are taken into account as well, but I'll need to check to see what these are. Cheers for the reply. It’d be great to finally let this to rest. I’m still sticking by insurance though . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Shanahan Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 So Secretaries and PA's for example? As far as I can remember it also include all the staff wages, football staff in this case being just the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 But the staff wages are in a separate column, I failed accountancy, but I would still say you wouldn’t put it twice. :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 It's the amount of non-football staff wages paid out by the club. I think other aspects are taken into account as well, but I'll need to check to see what these are. Have you checked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltmurrayuk Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 But the staff wages are in a separate column, I failed accountancy, but I would still say you wouldn’t put it twice. :confused: Staff wages are your coaches, scouts etc... According to the Pop-up Hint Non-Football Costs are "Amount of non-football staff wages paid out by the club" Rather worrying I've just noticed it cost me £3.6m last month (August) compared to £3.3m for player wages in the Premier League If memory serves me it is based upon the size of your club, club reputation, league and your chairman's attributes and there isn't much you can do about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PitchPosh Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 But the staff wages are in a separate column, I failed accountancy, but I would still say you wouldn’t put it twice. :confused: NFC's are non-football staff wages. I think this would include the people working in your front office, groundskeepers etc. Even still, I've always thought the NFC's become ridiculously high for any club once they're playing at the highest level (Champs League). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Staff wages are your coaches, scouts etc...According to the Pop-up Hint Non-Football Costs are "Amount of non-football staff wages paid out by the club" Rather worrying I've just noticed it cost me £3.6m last month (August) compared to £3.3m for player wages in the Premier League If memory serves me it is based upon the size of your club, club reputation, league and your chairman's attributes and there isn't much you can do about. Quick Google search, and non-football staff are employees in marketing, media relations, finance and business operations. A bit more than I’d like to pay them, but I’m certain, from what michaeltmurrayuk has said (and we’ve all seen in game), that this where that large sum of money goes missing monthly. As it increases with each league you progress through, or when you win more trophies, I would assume he is also correct in assuming reputation plays a part in these costs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoofe Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 it would be logical that the more succesful/higher reputation a team has, the more non-football staff it would need more accounting/finance staff to deal with the larger funds available to such a squad. more press officers/PR/marketing staff to deal with the media, additional marketing, finding & dealing with bigger & better sponsors, etc more concessions/admissions/sales/security staff to deal with larger crowds & ticket sales Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazaveli Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Match day refreshments for supporters, cleaning of the stadium and training grounds, renting the stadium or training ground, coach fare on away games. All things like this add up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon69 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 So what makes up 'Other'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalGenius Posted April 30, 2010 Author Share Posted April 30, 2010 They're a bit OTT aren't they? Since getting into the UCL with FC United, my board message at the start of every month shows my biggest Expenditure as Non-Football costs at £1.99m per month or thereabouts. I've spent more this season (as of November) on these costs than the whole of last season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Quick Google search, and non-football staff are employees in marketing, media relations, finance and business operations. A bit more than I’d like to pay them, but I’m certain, from what michaeltmurrayuk has said (and we’ve all seen in game), that this where that large sum of money goes missing monthly. As it increases with each league you progress through, or when you win more trophies, I would assume he is also correct in assuming reputation plays a part in these costs. I'm paying accountants and pr dudes over £3.5m a month!! Over £40m a year to bean counters and flouncy media types? Not happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZone Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Must be bankers in disguise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBF652 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Manager: hey thought i'd give you a call just to see how things are going? found any good propects?Scout: ermmmm nah not yet gaffa, im in italy at the moment and all i got is the population size hahaha Brilliant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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