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Liam =D
07-10-2007, 07:29
Courtesy of Foxmad...

1) Arrange friendly for your reserve team against U18's in about 2 weeks time.

2) Select all of your reserve team using Ctrl+A

3) Move them all to either the first team squad or U18's.

4) Continue a few times

5) About a day later you will have a squad full of grey players.

6) All of these will be amazing 19 year old .

7) Offer them contracts and move to Senior team.

8) Another lot will come through.

9) This can be repeated as many times as you like and due to them demanding little wages is a sure fire way to get a better team.

postal postie
07-10-2007, 07:33
are you sure they'll be top class? greys are usually capped with their PA so they'llonly be average conference players

dafuge
07-10-2007, 07:34
The grey players that fill the gaps are usually rubbish though.

postal postie
07-10-2007, 07:36
i'ev just tried it.

set up a friendly with braga for the under18's.

move all under 18s to first team.

i now have a team of 16 year old greys who are all rubbish.

fatboyjohnmulhern
07-10-2007, 07:37
i didnt think u cud sign players who are grey, ?

dafuge
07-10-2007, 07:38
Originally posted by fatboyjohnmulhern:
i didnt think u cud sign players who are grey, ?

You can offer contracts to your own grey players to make them 'real' players, you can't sign other teams grey players.

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 07:40
It depends what team you are. It works well for teams like Milan and Real Madrid.

stevereay
07-10-2007, 07:42
is this for 07 or 08

McMaster#28
07-10-2007, 07:43
The main thing here which is missing is it seems to only work in Italy.

Try it with AC Milan and presuming you sign all the gray players in your reserves you'll find that Kaka will struggle to get on the bench.

Xennaz
07-10-2007, 07:44
Originally posted by Francis Cole:
The main thing here which is missing is it seems to only work in Italy.

Try it with AC Milan and presuming you sign all the gray players in your reserves you'll find that Kaka will struggle to get on the bench.

Are you serious? This is... weird.

postal postie
07-10-2007, 07:50
i tried it with liverpoiol. under18s and reserves and it didn't work.
dont' suppose it matters much though it would be nice to get it fixed.

could this mean that the return of the problem were the AI would sell their players and be playing greys for the rest of the gaem if they're that ogod.

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 07:58
I tried it with Liverpool too and it never worked but it was class for AC Milan.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 08:14
Nice flaw http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

example player 1 (http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8476/grey1kr9.jpg)

Bug forum?

Blackcats
07-10-2007, 08:15
Originally posted by Liam =D:
I tried it with Liverpool too and it never worked but it was class for AC Milan.

oh my good god that is actually insane, i love it lol http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Alurny
07-10-2007, 08:16
Originally posted by Alurny:
Nice flaw http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

example player 1 (http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8476/grey1kr9.jpg)

Bug forum?

Also they are as good as they are generated. So they can not get better than what you can see. Still a nasty flaw however you look at it http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Dreaded Walrus
07-10-2007, 08:16
Originally posted by Alurny:
Nice flaw http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

example player 1 (http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8476/grey1kr9.jpg)

Bug forum?

Mine's better! http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2946/10072007161455da6.jpg

But yes, this is obviously a major bug.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 08:22
Just did it at Inter and every player is a leading star http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Crazy bug!

Sweet-Zombie-Jesus
07-10-2007, 08:28
Does it only work in fm 08 with italian clubs or does it work in fm2007 with every club?

dafuge
07-10-2007, 08:31
Does anyone with FM Scout fancy having a look at the CA/PA's of these players in FM07?

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 08:31
08 - Italian

07 - Dunno

Alurny
07-10-2007, 08:32
Does it work in 07?

Dreaded Walrus
07-10-2007, 08:37
Originally posted by dafuge:
Does anyone with FM Scout fancy having a look at the CA/PA's of these players in FM07?

I haven't tried it in 07, but my coach reports (and the obvious attributes) suggest that these players would almost all be "leading stars at any Serie A side", while most of them have little or no potential for growth, quite possibly because they're all so good already.

Sweet-Zombie-Jesus
07-10-2007, 08:37
How do people find these things out?

Alurny
07-10-2007, 08:39
Originally posted by Dreaded Walrus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dafuge:
Does anyone with FM Scout fancy having a look at the CA/PA's of these players in FM07?

I haven't tried it in 07, but my coach reports (and the obvious attributes) suggest that these players would almost all be "leading stars at any Serie A side", while most of them have little or no potential for growth, quite possibly because they're all so good already. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yup. It appears they appear with maxed out ca/pa. It seems they are as good (if not better) than your current squad. Nice little bug really.

Strange thing is they are worth 0. Probably appear with 0 rep too!

Dreaded Walrus
07-10-2007, 08:43
Originally posted by Alurny:
Strange thing is they are worth 0. Probably appear with 0 rep too!

If you wait a while, they seem to pick up a value. This happens quite regularly when you sign youth players and the like onto a contract.

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 08:43
It is a cool bug init.

Norville Rodgers
07-10-2007, 08:45
Originally posted by Sweet-Zombie-Jesus:
How do people find these things out?

I thought that.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 08:45
Originally posted by Liam =D:
It is a cool bug init.

in a way but there is a HUGE chance of people exploiting it. I have sold half of Inter already and replaced them with the grays. One in particular is amazing.

Dreaded Walrus
07-10-2007, 08:46
Originally posted by Norville Rodgers:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sweet-Zombie-Jesus:
How do people find these things out?

I thought that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well perhaps they just took over at an Italian club that didn't have many reserve players, and saw one or two greys which looked good. And tried to make more. I've been at quite a few teams that haven't had many reserve players in the past, though always in England.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 08:48
Bit of a joke really isn't it. You have a permanent source of income. Striker playing bad? Sell him and generate another http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

In all seriousness though I can't see how this issue will not be adressed.

Coolest bug I have seen http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Alurny
07-10-2007, 08:53
Sorry for the double post but:

Who needs Viera? (http://i24.tinypic.com/16jn8dj.jpg)

http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Not you
07-10-2007, 08:55
Alternatively, SI could just leave this as it is. It would shut up all those people who ask for an easier difficulty level.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 08:59
Think they will want to know right? http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=9482076743&m=7382073943&r=7382073943#7382073943)

Sorry for reporting it :P

Blackcats
07-10-2007, 09:00
this is obviously a bug but still wow. I have about 20 players like this !!!

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8721/amazingyoungstermf9.png

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3761/newpicture3wh3.png

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1786/newpicture4kf6.png

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6816/newpicture5iq2.png

peronally i think it was my brilliant management and revamp of the youth system http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:01
I just started a game with Inter and I have found a class striker. 18 with 18 pace, acceleration, finishing and composure.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:03
I have a striker with 20 technique,composure,heading,jumping and finishing http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Shut it down for now though. Going to have to show my house mates when they return. http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Blackcats
07-10-2007, 09:06
Originally posted by Alurny:
I have a striker with 20 technique,composure,heading,jumping and finishing http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Shut it down for now though. Going to have to show my house mates when they return. http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

dont tell them about the bug just say your an amazing manager

irish2101
07-10-2007, 09:07
i know its been asked a few times, but i can't seem to find an answer, this bug is only in the 08 demo correct?

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:07
Originally posted by Blackcats:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alurny:
I have a striker with 20 technique,composure,heading,jumping and finishing http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Shut it down for now though. Going to have to show my house mates when they return. http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

dont tell them about the bug just say your an amazing manager </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Working With Youngsters 20 http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:08
Originally posted by Alurny:
Think they will want to know right? http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=9482076743&m=7382073943&r=7382073943#7382073943)

Sorry for reporting it :P

Alurny.

Always doing things for the greater good.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:10
Originally posted by Liam =D:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alurny:
Think they will want to know right? http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=9482076743&m=7382073943&r=7382073943#7382073943)

Sorry for reporting it :P

Alurny.

Always doing things for the greater good. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry to spoil it but I can guarantee it will be a problem in the long run if not sorted. Think of those network gamers!

No one will be able to play Italy and succeed without being hailed a cheater http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Grreat find Liam =) / Foxmad

Dreaded Walrus
07-10-2007, 09:12
Originally posted by Alurny:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam =D:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alurny:
Think they will want to know right? http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=9482076743&m=7382073943&r=7382073943#7382073943)

Sorry for reporting it :P

Alurny.

Always doing things for the greater good. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry to spoil it but I can guarantee it will be a problem in the long run if not sorted. Think of those network gamers!

No one will be able to play Italy and succeed without being hailed a cheater http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Grreat find Liam =) / Foxmad </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, I'm glad you did it. I was about to do the same thing. I'm sure there are others who agree, too.

dafuge
07-10-2007, 09:12
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.

postal postie
07-10-2007, 09:13
Originally posted by irish2101:
i know its been asked a few times, but i can't seem to find an answer, this bug is only in the 08 demo correct?

the demo is exactly the same to teh boxed edition. just without the ability to start a new game. and you can't go on holiday

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:13
Originally posted by Dreaded Walrus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alurny:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam =D:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alurny:
Think they will want to know right? http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=9482076743&m=7382073943&r=7382073943#7382073943)

Sorry for reporting it :P

Alurny.

Always doing things for the greater good. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry to spoil it but I can guarantee it will be a problem in the long run if not sorted. Think of those network gamers!

No one will be able to play Italy and succeed without being hailed a cheater http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Grreat find Liam =) / Foxmad </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, I'm glad you did it. I was about to do the same thing. I'm sure there are others who agree, too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I could just see it ruining my annual hot seat game with my house mates where we always play italy. There would be trouble left, right and center!

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:15
Originally posted by dafuge:
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.


A bit later on I will did out a screen shot from 06 where my house mate and I found a player from shamrock (grey) with a stupid amount of 20's.

We also had a save where Blackpool Mechanics had a squad of world class players but I don't know if we took a screenshot http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:15
Originally posted by Dreaded Walrus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alurny:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam =D:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alurny:
Think they will want to know right? http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=9482076743&m=7382073943&r=7382073943#7382073943)

Sorry for reporting it :P

Alurny.

Always doing things for the greater good. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry to spoil it but I can guarantee it will be a problem in the long run if not sorted. Think of those network gamers!

No one will be able to play Italy and succeed without being hailed a cheater http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Grreat find Liam =) / Foxmad </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, I'm glad you did it. I was about to do the same thing. I'm sure there are others who agree, too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know. I was only messing Alurny.

Dreaded Walrus
07-10-2007, 09:15
Originally posted by dafuge:
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.

I remember similar occasions, too. I would dread an Italian opponent ever having an injury crisis. I might test it out later.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:15
Originally posted by Alurny:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dafuge:
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.


A bit later on I will did out a screen shot from 06 where my house mate and I found a player from shamrock (grey) with a stupid amount of 20's.

We also had a save where Blackpool Mechanics had a squad of world class players but I don't know if we took a screenshot http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wil dig* out a screen shot.

Stupid typos!

irish2101
07-10-2007, 09:16
Originally posted by postal postie:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by irish2101:
i know its been asked a few times, but i can't seem to find an answer, this bug is only in the 08 demo correct?

the demo is exactly the same to teh boxed edition. just without the ability to start a new game. and you can't go on holiday </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ok then, is this bug on in the new game, and not in last years version?

Blackcats
07-10-2007, 09:18
Originally posted by dafuge:
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.

i've seen that before but that is usually for quality teams of leagues you haven't got running, eg barcelona having only valdes as a goalkeeper so regenerating a much better grey player who always plays. This is different becuase you are running the league and its in your team these players excist, you can also create and infinate number of them at your will.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:20
Originally posted by Blackcats:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dafuge:
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.

i've seen that before but that is usually for quality teams of leagues you haven't got running, eg barcelona having only valdes as a goalkeeper so regenerating a much better grey player who always plays. This is different becuase you are running the league and its in your team these players excist, you can also create and infinate number of them at your will. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

then keep them for a season then sell. Rinse, repeat. Keep generating new players. Sell the existing players. Wage bill minimal with unlimited resource of world class players. Yeah I think this is a little broken http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Sweet-Zombie-Jesus
07-10-2007, 09:20
I tried it with inter in fm07 and it didn't work

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:22
Has anyone tried it with a spanish team???

fatboyjohnmulhern
07-10-2007, 09:25
fm 07 german national players bug allowed top class greys to play, always beat my england team!

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:25
Originally posted by Liam =D:
Has anyone tried it with a spanish team???

I'll try now..

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:26
Originally posted by fatboyjohnmulhern:
fm 07 german national players bug allowed top class greys to play, always beat my england team!

That is a rights to he team issue not a bug http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:27
OK. This might be a good idea for a holiday game when the whole game is out.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:29
Originally posted by Alurny:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam =D:
Has anyone tried it with a spanish team???

I'll try now.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No dice. Did it as Barca. They are all terrible. (So realistic then http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

Dreaded Walrus
07-10-2007, 09:29
Originally posted by Alurny:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam =D:
Has anyone tried it with a spanish team???

I'll try now.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just tried it, no players seem to be generated at all.

Blackcats
07-10-2007, 09:30
Originally posted by Liam =D:
Has anyone tried it with a spanish team???

i think everyones having too much fun with there new inter or milan teams to bother, i know i am lol

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:30
Oh, thats strange that is.

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:31
Originally posted by Blackcats:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam =D:
Has anyone tried it with a spanish team???

i think everyones having too much fun with there new inter or milan teams to bother, i know i am lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol, its great init.

Dreaded Walrus
07-10-2007, 09:32
Oh, I was doing it wrong. Still, it doesn't work as French or Spanish teams. Just Italian.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:33
Originally posted by Alurny:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alurny:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam =D:
Has anyone tried it with a spanish team???

I'll try now.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No dice. Did it as Barca. They are all terrible. (So realistic then http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

On further observation the Italian teams have generated good to top class greys. However this is probably due to the small database than a bug.

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:34
Has anyone tried with a middling Italian team???

I would but I'm having too much fun being Inter!!!

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:36
Originally posted by Liam =D:
Has anyone tried with a middling Italian team???

I would but I'm having too much fun being Inter!!!

I am assuming they generate based on facilities and reputation and therefore will not be world class. Fiorentina's greys fro example were as good (if not slightly better) than their first XI.

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:38
Yeh, I was thinking that. What is Fiorientina's youth academy like?

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:41
Oh they are only good but Inter's is Excellent.

McNeil
07-10-2007, 09:45
Originally posted by Liam =D:
Oh they are only good but Inter's is Excellent.

this is loads of fun to mess with, but would like to see it fixed in patch http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

joshpmilton
07-10-2007, 09:46
Originally posted by Liam =D:
Has anyone tried with a middling Italian team???

I would but I'm having too much fun being Inter!!!
I did just this to see what happened. I chose Genoa, and they produce loads of 'decent Serie B' players, but certainly not many, if any 'leading Serie A' players.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:48
Originally posted by joshpmilton:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam =D:
Has anyone tried with a middling Italian team???

I would but I'm having too much fun being Inter!!!
I did just this to see what happened. I chose Genoa, and they produce loads of 'decent Serie B' players, but certainly not many, if any 'leading Serie A' players. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looks like its based on facilities and reputation then. Oh and a bit of luck.

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:51
You should be able to get a report on your greys

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:52
Originally posted by Liam =D:
You should be able to get a report on your greys

Only if you sign them though right?

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:53
Yeah you can when you sign them but you should just be able to.

Alurny
07-10-2007, 09:54
Originally posted by Liam =D:
Yeah you can when you sign them but you should just be able to.

Sorry misread your post. http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 09:55
Originally posted by Alurny:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam =D:
Yeah you can when you sign them but you should just be able to.

Sorry misread your post. http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok, lol

RTHerringbone
07-10-2007, 10:33
This is great! Shame it doesn't work in the Premiership - it would solve the problem of there being a lack of top English youngsters!

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 10:38
lol

RTHerringbone
07-10-2007, 10:45
Have been trying this with Juve. After doing two full "refreshes" of my reserve team, I already have two 19 year old forwards better than Trezeguet and Del Piero. Buffon will struggle to get in the team, Camoranesi and Nedved have been sold.....A great way to get around those irritating Champions League registration rules (when Juve qualify).

joshpmilton
07-10-2007, 10:49
Wasn't someone asking just the other day who easy would it be make a fully home grown squad..?

Liam =D
07-10-2007, 11:03
I just won Real 3 - 2 with a squad full of "Greys"

jonahno6
07-10-2007, 11:05
I really hope this is fixed in the patch so it can shut you people up, well just 1 person really as he keeps posting about it everywhere

dn6603
07-10-2007, 11:32
Originally posted by jonahno6:
I really hope this is fixed in the patch so it can shut you people up, well just 1 person really as he keeps posting about it everywhere

Come on mate, no need to be harsh. He found a bug that exploits the game and adds a little fun until the full game is released.

jonahno6
07-10-2007, 12:01
Originally posted by dn6603:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jonahno6:
I really hope this is fixed in the patch so it can shut you people up, well just 1 person really as he keeps posting about it everywhere

Come on mate, no need to be harsh. He found a bug that exploits the game and adds a little fun until the full game is released. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ok i admit its a little harsh but liam =D is posting it everywhere and its annoying, soz everyone else

Alurny
07-10-2007, 12:02
Originally posted by jonahno6:
I really hope this is fixed in the patch so it can shut you people up, well just 1 person really as he keeps posting about it everywhere

Cheer up charlie.

Was there any need?

He did a good thing raising the bug so it can be fixed. Try posting something constructive next time eh! http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

r0x0r
07-10-2007, 12:11
Originally posted by dafuge:
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.

thats because in inactive leagues, "fake" players are generated at an average talent of the team itself... So if barca sell their keepers, they get a free world class grey keeper.

personally i think it should be capped at the talent of the ebst player who wouldnt have been loaded at any given database size...

foxmad
07-10-2007, 12:15
Tbh courtesy of foxmad's a bit much.

I read it in one of Francis Cole's posts and then just posted it in the AC Milan thread.

Pretty cool bug really, I've replaced the whole of my AC Milan first 11, but now I've got like 50 world class players.

http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RTHerringbone
07-10-2007, 13:05
Point 1 - just watched Top Gear. Thank God that's back on TV.
Point 2 - the problem with this bug is that you do just get too many players. My Juve squad (1st Team, Reserves and U20's) swelled to over 100! Still, it's fun anyway.

duronal
07-10-2007, 16:01
Hey this also works on the French quick start.

It doesn't work on

Spanish
Scottish
English

i'm trying others as i write this.

Ter
07-10-2007, 16:15
/me starts a new game as Inter

dn6603
07-10-2007, 16:39
Originally posted by duronal:
Hey this also works on the French quick start.

It doesn't work on

Spanish
Scottish
English

i'm trying others as i write this.

I really wish this bug worked for England. http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Dreaded Walrus
07-10-2007, 16:46
Originally posted by duronal:
Hey this also works on the French quick start.
i'm trying others as i write this.

Really? It didn't work for me, with Lyon. I mean, I got players, but they were just the regular, useless greys, nowt special.

duronal
07-10-2007, 17:09
This bug isn't present in the following quick starts


Portugal
Scandinavia

But it does feature in

the brazilian start (with corinthians)

duronal
07-10-2007, 17:11
Originally posted by Dreaded Walrus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by duronal:
Hey this also works on the French quick start.
i'm trying others as i write this.

Really? It didn't work for me, with Lyon. I mean, I got players, but they were just the regular, useless greys, nowt special. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When i tried it with Lyon i got 2 midfielders similar to a good youth / rotation for first team level. Admittedly not the next ronaldinho..... but it still seems odd.

Pope of Pot, King of Nothing
07-10-2007, 19:13
Wouldn't doing something like this take a lot of fun out of the game?

It's like Quake with godmode.

danny.harv
07-10-2007, 23:58
Yes, it would.

But it would be like another 'Easier' difficulty level

Pipson
08-10-2007, 01:34
Hopefully this wont lead to SI deciding that you cant sign grey players

foxmad
08-10-2007, 08:19
Originally posted by Pope of Pot, King of Nothing:
Wouldn't doing something like this take a lot of fun out of the game?

It's like Quake with godmode.

But tbh, when I was getting killed over and over again in Doom I could do with going on godmode to try something fresh.

I don't think it takes too much fun out of the game, I think winning is fun http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif

Amaroq
08-10-2007, 09:47
I've said it before, I'll say it again.

For active leagues, grey players should be CA 1/PA 1, period. No exceptions.

I absolutely hate coming up against, say, Liverpool in a "small DB" league match and seeing that, because their starting GK got hurt, they've instantiated a god-like grey backup.


Originally posted by Pipson:
Hopefully this wont lead to SI deciding that you cant sign grey players
As long as I can't sign the next Ronaldinho from my greys!!!

foxmad
08-10-2007, 10:01
I absolutely hate coming up against, say, Liverpool in a "small DB" league match and seeing that, because their starting GK got hurt, they've instantiated a god-like grey backup.

Can't say I've ever seen this but I can see your point of view, you believe they should be playing an academy hopeful, therefore somebody with very little ability.

Also just realised that this gets round the problem of injuries to goalkeepers in Champions League etc. You'd get a super goalkeeper as a reserve :P

Skinaldo
09-10-2007, 04:16
**** this i just tried it with Inter,im Selling everybody and using these guys...im going to have a full team full of italians and they all gonna play for italy cuz theyre all amazing!!
great (cheap) fun hehe

danny.harv
11-10-2007, 00:23
Originally posted by Skinaldo:
**** this i just tried it with Inter,im Selling everybody and using these guys...im going to have a full team full of italians and they all gonna play for italy cuz theyre all amazing!!
great (cheap) fun hehe

It is fun init.

Ibrihamovic is really linking well with my 20 finishing, pace, composure, jumping, heading and acceleration striker !!!! http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

CMeds
11-10-2007, 00:41
Sorry, I tried this out of intrigue, but really don't see the fun in it, espescialy as there is an endless pool. Ridiculous.

caporali
20-10-2007, 04:11
You are all muppets.
This is a bit of fun.

Take a rubbish team like Nice in French league, use the Italian 'greys' from inter and give yourself a chance of winning a game or two???

I will be trying this but more as an integration within my team not a new team!!!

A little bit of help never hurt!!

SuperKingMan
20-10-2007, 11:01
Does anybody know what might be causing it?

Just so that as and when they fix it, I'll be able to get my super-reserves back http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Also, is it only reserves that it works with, or the youth and senior teams as well?

Mravac Kid
20-10-2007, 16:50
Aww, it doesn't seem to work with the full game.
Or did I do something wrong?
Is it supposed to work on both reserves and U20s? I moved all the reserves to the first team, but a week later still no regens. There's a reserve match upcoming, I'll wait to see if any will be generated for it.

Mravac Kid
20-10-2007, 18:11
Huh, I can't edit my own posts...

It does work, but the players appeared only at the day of the match.
Also, as soon as I move a player to U20s, another player appears immediately.

Funny, my assistant manager tells me several of them have higer CA than PA... http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
FMM tells me they have CA 120-155, and PA 140-155, most of them having them equal or just a few points lower CA.

Mravac Kid
22-10-2007, 04:42
Breaking news:
I tried it in FM07, and it doesn't seem to work. I'm in my third season with Juventus, having won the Serie A and the UEFA Cup previous year, with reputation around 9400, top youth facilities, and squad average I'd say over 160 PA. Two sets of players only produced a single 150 PA, the rest were between 112 and 142.

I'll have to weather through some two seasons in FM08, and see if the regens improve once I've raised Juve's rating somewhat.

kangkang
22-10-2007, 09:08
Originally posted by dn6603:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by duronal:
Hey this also works on the French quick start.

It doesn't work on

Spanish
Scottish
English

i'm trying others as i write this.

I really wish this bug worked for England. http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not sure about 08 but in 07, I heared that there is a way (I did not try)...this does not work for EPL because EPL has reverse league. So as long as you refuse to play reverse league, it is just like Italy...

SuperKingMan
22-10-2007, 12:26
What's reverse league?

LARulz
22-10-2007, 13:54
This is a very good bug, just like the feeder club one in the last game

xouman
23-10-2007, 02:26
In fm 2006 i signed a grey player in the conference south and he got 186 PA. But he was the only, other players were about 10-40 PA...

joephoenix
23-10-2007, 02:42
there is a short speedy brazilian attacking left back called carlinhos. (the next roberto carlos) aged 20. He is easy to sign for £2m with any premier club.

Asmodeus
23-10-2007, 03:05
Originally posted by SuperKingMan:
What's reverse league?

Reserve league. Why it works in Italy as they don't have a reserve league there.

kangkang
23-10-2007, 11:25
Originally posted by SuperKingMan:
What's reverse league?

sorry, typo
reserve league...
just refuse to participate at the end of your first season when asked

woodacre
28-10-2007, 04:16
so does this work in the full game? if so does it work in the english game as long as you dont enter a team in the reserve league?

jimmyjammyjames
28-10-2007, 13:10
This only worlks with the top few Italian teams.
And you have to start at the Italian date so if you select England and Italy as nations and start game in England in July it wont work

Flair
29-10-2007, 13:38
Guys, this isnt a bug. Not how it only works in Italy.

Its a cheat. And its there because its part of italian game. No point playing in Seria A if you cant cheat!

Number 7
29-10-2007, 13:47
Post-patch of this doesn't work. How do I un-patch my game?

Number 7
29-10-2007, 13:50
So I have to start in Italian date? Is that a must? Because I started England in July.

mattnelson
03-11-2007, 17:16
does it work with any team that aint in a reserve league?

Alurny
03-11-2007, 18:27
Originally posted by Number 7:
Post-patch of this doesn't work. How do I un-patch my game?

Uninstall it.

viola29
07-11-2007, 11:46
just did it with fiorentina and got a bunch of good players, not terrible but doesnt look like there are any superstars.

does it vary how good the youngsters are each time you do it?

07-11-2007, 14:29
Do i arrange the game against my under 18 team or a other teams u18?

cameron Fordyce
09-11-2007, 18:42
ok so it works in italy in FM08, the question is will u get better players if your youth academy is better?

Buttk0
13-11-2007, 12:03
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6972/albertobandieraprofileju6.png


Mine is also class http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JB
13-11-2007, 12:26
I tried it, i higlighted my players but it wouldn't let me move them? Any tips?

Sagres
23-11-2007, 14:13
hmm! nice one... will try that with benfica =D

come on ragusa!
23-11-2007, 14:51
HOW DO YOU MOVE ALL THE PLAYERS AT ONCE?!!?? I have them all highlighted but cant move them all.

05-12-2007, 16:06
Well, I was St.Albans and it just worked.

Not joking.

If I could work imageshack I'd upload some print screens but I can't work it. If someone told me how to I'd do it.

I've got this guy Andy Browne who's 20 at Off the Ball, work rate and strength. 19 at finshing and stamina. Passing and 1st touch are 17.

XiiaoGuav
13-12-2007, 04:05
er wat version are u guys using?
mine's 8.0 and i dun really know how to get the greys,are we suppose to arrange frenly for the U20's OR reserve team?
IF its the U20's, are we suppose to arrange them against other's U20 OR our own reserve team?
IF its the reserve team, vice versa.
dam i wanna enjoy tis T.T

PoopyPants
27-12-2007, 03:27
Originally posted by come on ragusa!:
HOW DO YOU MOVE ALL THE PLAYERS AT ONCE?!!?? I have them all highlighted but cant move them all.

Ctrl + A at the same time http://community.sigames.com/customicons/icon14.gif

Liam =D
29-12-2007, 14:28
Cant believe this is still running!!! http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Old Git
29-12-2007, 17:18
If I recall, this was reported some time ago in the bugs forum, with particular reference to Italian and/or Spanish teams.

freezestyler
26-02-2008, 10:00
I tried it with inter and got a bunch of crap grey players. I am running 8.02 patch and i missing something here? And control + A selected all the players but how to shift them to either first or u18 team?

Fe98
27-02-2008, 04:29
Perhaps they took it out. I haven't tried it yet though

Jack Edwards
29-03-2008, 03:05
Doesnt work anymore.

Request - LOCK

arsenal_2111
29-03-2008, 08:13
just looked through this thread and something confused me!

What was the feeder club bug on the older version?

Stevooo
29-03-2008, 19:49
does this work on all the different patches like 8.02, 8.01 and 8.00

NepentheZ
29-03-2008, 19:57
Originally posted by Stevooo:
does this work on all the different patches like 8.02, 8.01 and 8.00

Only 8.0.0 IIRC.

pooman2279
30-03-2008, 14:08
Originally posted by arsenal_2111:
just looked through this thread and something confused me!

What was the feeder club bug on the older version?

Yeah I wondered what that was. Anyone know?

GhostWolf1978
05-04-2008, 04:26
This doesn't work in Spain.

I tried it with Barcelona and all the players are complete shoite!!

qpr_lad
06-04-2008, 11:52
WTF, y are you lot getting so hyper about being a f cuking cheat do it hte hard way.

NepentheZ
06-04-2008, 12:07
Originally posted by qpr_lad:
WTF, y are you lot getting so hyper about being a f cuking cheat do it hte hard way.

This thread pre-dates 8.0.1. A few new posts have been made since.

There's no need for the language or attitude, and if people wish to cheat, allow them to play the game in their own manner.

Midge
06-04-2008, 12:35
Originally posted by qpr_lad:
WTF, y are you lot getting so hyper about being a f cuking cheat do it hte hard way.

Sheesh who knew people get this angry over other peoples games........ http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

lukegjpotter
28-04-2008, 10:43
Ya they might be good but they always have a fatal flaw.

Mr Peanut
28-05-2008, 06:51
really good bug got over 200 good players in my juventus team http://community.sigames.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, making loads of money of it too!

ManUtdBoy
29-05-2008, 21:38
wat do you mean by 'continue a few times'???

vhayz
04-06-2008, 00:18
how long you wait after you finish your friendly team to make the player grown like that was??

jmatt06
12-06-2008, 11:54
What do you mean by "continue a few times". Also do I have to move my whole reserve team, because there is one grey guy I can't move.

Barnard27
12-06-2008, 16:08
does this still work if u downloaded the january patch?

mattbuck
12-06-2008, 23:15
I would like to know the answer to that. It hasn't worked in yet for my bristol rovers side, 2nd season in the prem with 17 for youth and training facilities.

PoopyPants
15-06-2008, 04:45
It only works on the unpatched game.

dunner
15-06-2008, 06:04
It doesnt work now.

The feeder club bug was when the board came back with recommendations you used to be able to recommend one - hit the back button, recommend another - hit the back button and repeat for all.

After the last one you hit continue and the next day you got all the clubs as your feeder club but this doesnt work now.

Frazza Pee
15-06-2008, 06:21
Why has this been ressurected?

Okkas
02-07-2008, 05:20
I remember Braintree producing dozens of player like this in CM01/02 when me and a mate hit 8 or so season.