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I'm in group E of the champs league and I am second to juve with one match to go. What I don't understand is why am I second?

Juventus, played 4, won 3 and drawn 1 (against me). Scored 8 and conceded 1.

Liverpool, Played 4, won 3 and drawn 1. Scored 12 and conceded 4.

According to the rules I should be top with a goal difference of +8, compared to there plus +7, right?

The rules, if I'm not mistaken, state that it should be sorted on, firstly, results between the 2 teams which was 1-1 so it can't be sorted out by that. Secondly, on goal difference, which if that is the case, I should be top. Thirdly, on goals scored, so why aren't I top?

Am I wrong or have I missed something?

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It looks like a strange one. It looks like though that you are only 4 games in from the info given.

If it is a case where your record better than Juve's (1-1 draw away), Liverpool's is better than yours and Juve's is better than Liverpools, then you go into a three way round robin where it is points and then goal difference.

However as it is only 4 games in it could be still done on Alphabetical order as the round robin would only done be at the end of the group. Therefore J>L>whoever you are.

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How many of these threads this week?

You've only played Juventus once and you must have been at home.

Result was 1-1, Juventus leads on away goals, another match to come in Italy.

There is nothing in the rules that says anything about away goals counting in league format.

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There is nothing in the rules that says anything about away goals counting in league format.

Away goals count in the results between teams if you are level. So it's correct, if you drew at home to Juventus 1-1, then they are above you on away goals.

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Away goals do not affect it if one team has a better goal difference

Results between teams go before goal difference as it says in the rules.

If GD was the deciding factor Liverpool wouldn't be 2nd in the example :rolleyes:

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Results between teams go before goal difference as it says in the rules.

If GD was the deciding factor Liverpool wouldn't be 2nd in the example :rolleyes:

Well this must be something messed up by sports interactive as this is not the rules in real never ha and never will be

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Well this must be something messed up by sports interactive as this is not the rules in real never ha and never will be

From the UEFA handbook, take note of C.

6.05 If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group

matches, the following criteria are applied to determine the rankings:

a) higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the

teams in question;

b) superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams

in question;

c) higher number of goals scored away from home in the group matches

played among the teams in question;

d) superior goal difference from all group matches played;

e) higher number of goals scored;

f) higher number of coefficient points accumulated by the club in question,

as well as its association, over the previous five seasons (see paragraph

8.02).

Handbook

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