charismatic_stallion Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Is it just me or are headed goals extremely rare in this game? I seem to get tonnes of headed chances and never manage to score from them, they go over every time no matter who it is attacking the ball. I'm pretty sure its not down to my players as my strikers have good heading ability, and it frequently happens with my centre backs as well, I havent scored from a corner all season despite my defenders frequently winning the headers in good positions in the box. Does anyone else have this problem, or have any solutions in how to fix it? I have good crossers of the ball and everything, the delivery is great, but the header always ALWAYS goes over the bar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeabawss Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 When there is a good enough cross to my striker, it's pretty much a goal. I haven't seen many problems in 10.3 with headers. Perhaps your striker doesn't have a good heading or anticipation attribute? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeesterCat Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Heading got tweaked to make it harder in 10.3, but its by no means impossible. I've found it harder to score headers from corners, but I've not really noticed any difference in the amount I score from open play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevio11 Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 My Central defender Roger Johnson seems to have not trouble scoring headed goals from corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charismatic_stallion Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 So it is just me then. Bugger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeesterCat Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 From my observations, it seems that if the player is relatively static (as when facing a corner) the header will often go over. But if he is on the run and attacks the cross, there is a decent chance of it being on target. Not scientific I know, but just what I've observed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac13 Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 From my observations, it seems that if the player is relatively static (as when facing a corner) the header will often go over. But if he is on the run and attacks the cross, there is a decent chance of it being on target.Not scientific I know, but just what I've observed. And if there's a defender nearby he's more likely to miss i.e a small striker who is rubbish at jumping/heading but finds space in the area may get more headed goals than a slower bigger man. i think there far too few headed goals at the top level due to this marking issue. Have a look at other goals scored in the division you're playing in and decide for yourself. It seems most on here play with player settings of more through balls and less crosses so that should give you your answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samb_95 Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 If you have got to the stage when regens are taking over, it is rarer because jumping attributes tend to be poorer for regens, and it hasn't been seen to yet, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly_flyer10 Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 All mine are flying over the bar, I cant use wing play now because of it. As above, its probably because all forwards regens have rubbish jumping stats. I checked the forward ratings at most of the top 10 target me have single figure jumping stats. If I attack wings, my shots are always like 24 shots, 5 on target, 19 off target. Its a game breaking bug IMO. Ive only scored headers by using CBs at corners. I cant actually remember the last headed goal by a forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 I haven't seen a single goal from my side since the patch. I have seen a handful for AI players though, so it's definitely possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 My team's last 10 goals have included 5 headers, and the last goal I conceded was a header from about 25 yards out, caught my keeper off his line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedore Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 I get a decent amount of headers, with a few from corners too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charismatic_stallion Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 Im just going to have to buy Dzeko if I want to score headers, I guess. Berbatov has been poo all season anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeabawss Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 You were trying to get Berbatov to score headers? He's got an 11 in the heading attribute and a 10 in bravery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charismatic_stallion Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 No, my concern was Rooney wasnt scoring them. I had used the editor so his heading stats were better, as hes improved so much in reality in the air. But its made no difference. Might just be an editor thing, and I have to buy some lunking great target man if I want someone to score them consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalimyr Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 So it is just me then. Bugger. No, it's not just you. If I hadn't started a save with Rangers recently then I'd be saying I probably hadn't seen a single player of mine scoring a headed goal, having spent a lot of time playing as Man Utd since 10.3 was released. Doesn't matter if it's Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evans...whoever...they just will not score headers. But with Rangers, if it wasn't for headed goals then I'd probably be third or fourth in the league rather than first with a comfortable lead over Celtic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warkill Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Well I did an experiment about heading goals. I edited a player to be 250cm and 20 for jumping and heading. And, he scores every time a cross came for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly_flyer10 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 The people who say they score from headers, are they regens or real players? I had no problem with real players but once I got into a regen only game, they all have 3-8 in jumping, especially DMs and STs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky1989 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I think with the players I've got, I'm scoring a reasonable amount of headers. I don't see an issue really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac13 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Well I did an experiment about heading goals. I edited a player to be 250cm and 20 for jumping and heading. And, he scores every time a cross came for him I dunno. Fellaini is close to that and he's yet to score from open play in 5 seasons (with his head) Cahill has 1 in 5 seasons. I edited Chelseas defenders to 5 for heading and jumping and they still conceeded very few goals (10 in 20 league games) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leto2626 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Is it just me or are headed goals extremely rare in this game? I seem to get tonnes of headed chances and never manage to score from them, they go over every time no matter who it is attacking the ball. I'm pretty sure its not down to my players as my strikers have good heading ability, and it frequently happens with my centre backs as well, I havent scored from a corner all season despite my defenders frequently winning the headers in good positions in the box. Does anyone else have this problem, or have any solutions in how to fix it? I have good crossers of the ball and everything, the delivery is great, but the header always ALWAYS goes over the bar. Are we playing the same game? like one third of my goals are headers. My record holder 'goals in 1 match' made all the 5 goals with his head in that match... Must be your instructions. Both my strikers are regens and have above 12 jumping and above 15 heading. I don't buy strikers shorter than 1m85 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac13 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Are we playing the same game? like one third of my goals are headers. My record holder 'goals in 1 match' made all the 5 goals with his head in that match... Must be your instructions. Both my strikers are regens and have above 12 jumping and above 15 heading. I don't buy strikers shorter than 1m85 what league re you playing in? I notice a lot of headed goals in lower leagues becaus emarking = shocking. At top level where the marking is better = loads of balooning header over bar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rowell Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Is it just me or are headed goals extremely rare in this game? I seem to get tonnes of headed chances and never manage to score from them, they go over every time no matter who it is attacking the ball. I'm pretty sure its not down to my players as my strikers have good heading ability, and it frequently happens with my centre backs as well, I havent scored from a corner all season despite my defenders frequently winning the headers in good positions in the box. Does anyone else have this problem, or have any solutions in how to fix it? I have good crossers of the ball and everything, the delivery is great, but the header always ALWAYS goes over the bar. I don't think they are "rare" as I've seen a reasonable number of headed goals when playing with patch 10.3 (is that what you are using btw?) but from my experience the conversion rate of good, headed chances, to goals, seems to be low. My wide players are popping in a lot of good crosses that are being attacked in the 6 yd box by my strikers, who are pretty decent at heading, but most go over the bar. I think this is something to do with the changes in the match engine in 10.3. In 10.2 the engine favoured narrow play and this was adjusted in 10.3 to make wide play more effective. This in turn produced a lot of crosses, so I think what has happened is that SI have turned down the header conversion rate to keep scores realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac13 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I don't think they are "rare" as I've seen a reasonable number of headed goals when playing with patch 10.3 (is that what you are using btw?) but from my experience the conversion rate of good, headed chances, to goals, seems to be low. My wide players are popping in a lot of good crosses that are being attacked in the 6 yd box by my strikers, who are pretty decent at heading, but most go over the bar.I think this is something to do with the changes in the match engine in 10.3. In 10.2 the engine favoured narrow play and this was adjusted in 10.3 to make wide play more effective. This in turn produced a lot of crosses, so I think what has happened is that SI have turned down the header conversion rate to keep scores realistic. Except narrow play is still hugely favoured. They've made wide play no more effective by increasing number of crosses connected with = less being converted. Still way more goals scored from through ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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