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dking
20-03-2010, 16:29
Can you retrain positions so that they are natural? or will it never get beyond accomplished?

JR866Gunner
20-03-2010, 16:39
Dont think so seems like natural comes natural to them! It would be nice to have confidence in a player when hes "accomplished" a new position

aderow
20-03-2010, 16:40
Yea you can.....it just takes a very long time
at least over a year

Vangelis21
20-03-2010, 16:45
many players of mine have become natural in new positions but as gunner said, it needs time. Also, the training schedule must be relevant AND you MUST play the ALOT in the position you wish to become natural. An example at the top of my head is that if a player is accomplished in a position you must retrain him, train him and play him in the new position for a year and he will be fine

Tomer
20-03-2010, 16:46
Yea you can.....it just takes a very long time
at least over a year

Depends on the players, really. It takes long enough though :D

Red Owl
20-03-2010, 16:49
I've only ever got one player from Ineffectual to Natural, and that was a ML I had training for AML ever since I promoted him to the first team (aged 16), it took about 5 years. I've trained him up as an AMC now, so he's gone back down to Accomplished at AML

Vangelis21
20-03-2010, 17:02
once a position is "natural" it never goes back

Tomer
20-03-2010, 18:52
once a position is "natural" it never goes back

Not true! Just the player's original natural position(s) remain. Trained natural positions can fade.

Vangelis21
20-03-2010, 19:01
it has never happened to me and to anyone of the previous thread in a nother forum that we had the same discussion. anyway, ss would be appreciated so we all learn about it

Dalimyr
20-03-2010, 19:24
it has never happened to me and to anyone of the previous thread in a nother forum that we had the same discussion. anyway, ss would be appreciated so we all learn about it
If you stop training the player for that position and don't use the player in that position, it'll fade in time. If he's actively kept in his new role, he should keep it.

dafuge
20-03-2010, 19:28
If you stop training the player for that position and don't use the player in that position, it'll fade in time. If he's actively kept in his new role, he should keep it.

It is quite annoying that this happens. Once it reaches natural you should really be able to stop the position training without losing it.

Tomer
20-03-2010, 20:15
it has never happened to me and to anyone of the previous thread in a nother forum that we had the same discussion. anyway, ss would be appreciated so we all learn about it

I've had it happen to me. Petrucci was always flip-flopping between accomplished and natural MC when I was at Inter. Don't have screenshots though.

dking
21-03-2010, 17:04
Use Descriptive Thread Titles
When making a new thread, be as descriptive as possible when choosing the thread title. This helps yourself and other members so please try and avoid being vague.

I don't see a problem with the thread title and I haven't seen anybody else complain, are you a mod? Nope, I didn't think so.

I find it strange some of things some people feel the need to post...

Crazy Paving
21-03-2010, 17:19
I don't see a problem with the thread title and I haven't seen anybody else complain, are you a mod? Nope, I didn't think so.

I find it strange some of things some people feel the need to post...

Totally agree.

As for the positions changing I've had it with more than one player including those I've signed, Mata had natural for AML and AMC and after 4 weeks of playing AMC he went to accomplished. So the poster who said it doesn't happen is not right.

roykela
21-03-2010, 17:22
Use Descriptive Thread Titles
When making a new thread, be as descriptive as possible when choosing the thread title. This helps yourself and other members so please try and avoid being vague.


Could it be any more descriptive? Was basically his question.

If it was a sarcastic note, then my apologies as i've misunderstood :D

Nomis07
21-03-2010, 20:09
I don't see a problem with the thread title and I haven't seen anybody else complain, are you a mod? Nope, I didn't think so.

I find it strange some of things some people feel the need to post...

Not a mod, just pointing you in the direction of the house rules and hoping that you take it on board so as to save people reading threads they aren't interested in :)

FrazT
21-03-2010, 20:11
Not a mod, just pointing you in the direction of the house rules and hoping that you take it on board so as to save people reading threads they aren't interested in :)

There was little wrong with the thread title and certainly not worth commenting on

Nomis07
21-03-2010, 20:12
There was little wrong with the thread title and certainly not worth commenting on

There's a difference between wanting to know if it's possible to retrain positions in general and wanting to retrain positions to natural. I mean the rule does say "as descriptive as possible", the title wasn't as descriptive as possible.

dking
21-03-2010, 20:53
There's a difference between wanting to know if it's possible to retrain positions in general and wanting to retrain positions to natural. I mean the rule does say "as descriptive as possible", the title wasn't as descriptive as possible.

You're being pedantic. There is probably another 1000+ thread descriptions that aren't 'as descriptive as possible'. I expect to see a comment from you on each one. ;)

Seriously though, this conversation is ridiculous and I think that should be the end of it. :thup:

Nomis07
21-03-2010, 20:56
I'm always up for a challenge ;) Seriously though, no harm done and I did genuinely mean it as a point in the right direction because you would get more informed comments if it was more descriptive, I didn't mean it in a nasty way.

FrazT
22-03-2010, 06:56
OK air is cleared so closed.