sando123 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 i won the league cup and just won the fa cup there so had a look at hall of fame and it says minor trophies won 1 major 0 , i thought fa cup with be a big trophie and league cup a minor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterWolf Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Who won the league cup 2 years ago? I don't know, or care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro_DK Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Even if you don't care InterWolf, the league cup is still a trophie, and should ofcourse count as a small trophie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Even if you don't care InterWolf, the league cup is still a trophie, and should ofcourse count as a small trophie Yup, just another example of the game not recognising our achievements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Domestic league cups do not count as a minor trophy- only the FA ( or equivalent ) Cup and league count in the HOF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterWolf Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Should the charity cup count then? It simply reflects the fact that most clubs that could realistically win it, don't really care about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jirki88 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 There's only the league and ONE cup in each country that count in Hall of Fame. League Cups dont count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttgammon Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Should the charity cup count then?It simply reflects the fact that most clubs that could realistically win it, don't really care about it. No, because it is the traditional curtain-raiser for the season rather than an actual serious cup. Maybe the Charity Shield once had a higher standing because there were fewer televised games and it was one of the matches people got to see in their living room but I doubt the clubs or players were that bothered about it. Some teams choose not to take the League Cup all that seriously as a result of other commitments and fixture congestion prompting them to rest first team players but ultimately, a competition which allows its winner to qualify for European competition (depending on the results of the FA Cup and the league, of course) is a significant tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubey84 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Not even the guy who crafted the League Cup cares about the League Cup! As said above, only one domestic cup counts towards the Hall of Fame achievements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 But if its a way to europe then it should count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker2 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Some countries don't have a league cup - so it skews the HoF if you count it. Germany doesn't have one, for instance, and I don't think Spain does either. All the managers of England would gain an unfair leg-up in the HoF rankings, surpassing Germans and Spaniards who never got the chance to compete for the Milk cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sando123 Posted March 19, 2010 Author Share Posted March 19, 2010 i dont care if you dont care about the league cup just thought it would be counted as a minor cup seem as thats what i see it as in real life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterWolf Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Well you've had a full explanation now anyway, so everyone's happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just-Wool Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 The league cup is barely a trophy IRL anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Oh come on, anything that can be said for the League Cup lacking prestige can be said for the FA Cup too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Oh come on, anything that can be said for the League Cup lacking prestige can be said for the FA Cup too. More money in the FA cup, especially for lower teams. So it still has more importance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jirki88 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 If other cups than the national cup (for England, the FA-cup) would count in Hall of Fame, some countries would get a huge advantage... Like Northern Ireland, which have a fair few cups. Hall of Fame is limited to count National League, National Cup, Continental Cups and International Continental and World Tournaments. Any other titles you can find in: 1) your manager history under Cup Wins and League Wins. 2) in your manager achievement screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsfan1874 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Who won the league cup 2 years ago? I don't know, or care. Thats not the attitude , imagine your team won it would u still be saying that ? its like the cis insurance cup in scotland i personally couldnt care that people mock it they still over celebrate when they win it. a cup is a cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 League cup barely a trophy? 10 years ago perhaps, all the big teams take it seriously now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Who won the league cup 2 years ago? I don't know, or care. It simply reflects the fact that most clubs that could realistically win it, don't really care about it. Not even the guy who crafted the League Cup cares about the League Cup! The league cup is barely a trophy IRL anyway. Those were the quotes I was referring to. Replace "League Cup" with "FA Cup" and the statement is equally valid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jirki88 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Those were the quotes I was referring to. Replace "League Cup" with "FA Cup" and the statement is equally valid. The difference here is that 762 teams enter the FA-cup while only 92 enter the League Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackripper Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 yeh but surely a league cup would be a major trophy for a club like Cardiff if they ever won it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 The difference here is that 762 teams enter the FA-cup while only 92 enter the League Cup. For 92, it's not different to the League Cup. For at least 755 others each year, the same applies, as they're not playing against sides of note. So, maybe 7 teams a year get a great experience out of the FA Cup, and none of them will win it. Do you think the trophy is worth more to Manchester United or Chelsea because there's a small chance they'll come up against one of maybe 7 sides who they'll probably smash? Of course not! Frankly, when it comes down to the prestige of the competition, the extra 670 teams are irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackripper Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 especially when most of them 670 clubs are pub football teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phraz Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Who won the league cup 2 years ago? I don't know, or care. Tottenham Hotspurs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Football_League_Cup_Final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Shanahan Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 League cup barely a trophy? 10 years ago perhaps, all the big teams take it seriously now. Yes Man Utd only putting out a recognisable first-team for the final is taking it seriously, and so is Arsenal not even doing that. Personally I believe that Alex Ferguson only takes it seriously when he feels that Man Utd are in trouble vis a vis winning something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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