My favourite thing about the 3-d match engine (just discovered)

It is an excellent tool for explaining (and demonstrating) the offside rule to women.

It is an excellent tool for explaining (and demonstrating) the offside rule to women.

Im lost in translation with your op, please elaborate and explain what you mean as clarity is lacking here.

Im lost in translation with your op, please elaborate and explain what you mean as clarity is lacking here.

I believe he means that the offside rule, which is incredibly hard to teach to the majority of women, is better explained with the help of the ME.

God knows I've tried to explain it using physical objects and they still don't understand. I in turn cannot understand how women so universally cannot grasp the concept of something thats really not that complicated. God forbid we start talking about backpasses.

God knows I've tried to explain it using physical objects and they still don't understand. I in turn cannot understand how women so universally cannot grasp the concept of something thats really not that complicated. God forbid we start talking about backpasses.

Not even some guys can understand backpasses.

I tried showing my girlfriend the offside rule with ketchup bottles. I was actually quite disappointed when she managed to get it on only the 2nd walkthrough...

Ah ok now that explains things, most of the women i have been with couldn't stand football and as for the offside rule it didnt matter as i gave the women the red card

Gotta say I agree with OP. Used it for the same purpose

God knows I've tried to explain it using physical objects and they still don't understand. I in turn cannot understand how women so universally cannot grasp the concept of something thats really not that complicated. God forbid we start talking about backpasses.

lol i don`t think 99.99% of women will ever understand the offside rule... better not mention backpasses:D

Ah ok now that explains things, most of the women i have been with couldn't stand football and as for the offside rule it didnt matter as i gave the women the red card

It makes me think how lucky I am to have a girl that understands.

The best moment so far is me asking if she would like to go out for dinner and a movie (a date), and her saying "nah, let's go to a match".

It makes me think how lucky I am to have a girl that understands.

The best moment so far is me asking if she would like to go out for dinner and a movie (a date), and her saying "nah, let's go to a match".

you have trained her well:D

you have trained her well:D

That I have.

Though, tbf, she was into football long before I met her.

That I have.

Though, tbf, she was into football long before I met her.

you found one of the good ones lol:D

who does she support?

you found one of the good ones lol:D

who does she support?

Spurs. She plays for their Ladies team.

Spurs. She plays for their Ladies team.

oh right i bet you go to a lot of the matches then eh?

oh right i bet you go to a lot of the matches then eh?

Yep. It's great.

Yep. It's great.

free tickets?

what position does she play?

free tickets?

what position does she play?

You don't need tickets to go to most of the women's football matches. For instance, Spurs played Arsenal last week, and we all got to see it for free.

GK/RB

I sometimes put her in the game.

You don't need tickets to go to most of the women's football matches. For instance, Spurs played Arsenal last week, and we all got to see it for free.

GK/RB

I sometimes put her in the game.

free tickets nice one.

free tickets nice one.

... You don't need tickets... which I just said. :/

the offside rule is easy to explain tho lol. you shouldnt need the ME to show it lol. especially now that the light and advantage has been taken out.

the offside rule is easy to explain tho lol. you shouldnt need the ME to show it lol. especially now that the light and advantage has been taken out.

Have you ever tried explaining it, mate?

... You don't need tickets... which I just said. :/

sorry mate, i was talking to you and playing FM (relegation scrap)

yep of course i have lol.

sorry mate, i was talking to you and playing FM (relegation scrap)

It's cool. Hope you stay up.

yep of course i have lol.

Then you must have either been explaining it to well-trained women, or you have some secret explaining weapon the rest of us don't.

yep of course i have lol.

Explain it to me.

basically there has to be at least 2 players of the defending team infront of the attacking player as the ball is played forward. otherwise the attacking player is offside. see easy.

basically there has to be at least 2 players of the defending team infront of the attacking player as the ball is played forward. otherwise the attacking player is offside. see easy.

What if he's playing with is back to goal? Then he'll have loads of players in front of him.

What if he's playing with is back to goal? Then he'll have loads of players in front of him.

are you this awkward irl?

well in that case you replace in front with inbetween the goals and the attacking player.

well in that case you replace in front with inbetween the goals and the attacking player.

So what was the rule again?

So what was the rule again?

Do us men not understand the offside rule now:D

basically there has to be at least 2 players of the defending team infront of or between the goals and the attacking player as the ball is played forward. otherwise the attacking player is offside

Do us men not understand the offside rule now:D

maybe his mrs has hacked his profile and wants to know what the rule is lol

maybe his mrs has hacked his profile and wants to know what the rule is lol

lol, you put too much thought into that mate:D

lol, you put too much thought into that mate:D

i know lol. well my gf knows the offside rule but she prefers rugby lol. it was easier explaining the offside rule than explaining to her that rubgy is rubbish lol.

i know lol. well my gf knows the offside rule but she prefers rugby lol. it was easier explaining the offside rule than explaining to her that rubgy is rubbish lol.

Good god i can`t stand rugby lol:D

Who needs the free tickets to a woman's game? You can stay at home as you know Arsenal will win

Who needs the free tickets to a woman's game? You can stay at home as you know Arsenal will win

True but it is free how many things in this world are free?

I explained it to my wife using my daughter's "Littlest Pet Shop" and "Little People" figurines. Pausing live TV also can help. There really isn't much to the backpass rule; my wife got that pretty much immediately.

I explained it to my wife using my daughter's "Littlest Pet Shop" and "Little People" figurines. Pausing live TV also can help. There really isn't much to the backpass rule; my wife got that pretty much immediately.

Brill, there is still hope *prays*

Er, not to rain on everyone's parade here, but would I not be right in thinking that significant numbers of "football fans" the length and breadth of the country (including loads blokes) fail to grasp many basic laws of the game, including (but limited to) offside, backpasses, foul throws and tackling.

I'm a woman (last time I checked).

I understand offside, backpasses and all the other things that folk love to make stereotypical jokes about.

Being honest, I slightly cringed when someone asked on these forums not long after the release of FM10 what an inside forward was.

Er, not to rain on everyone's parade here, but would I not be right in thinking that significant numbers of "football fans" the length and breadth of the country (including loads blokes) fail to grasp many basic laws of the game, including (but limited to) offside, backpasses, foul throws and tackling.

I'm a woman (last time I checked).

I understand offside, backpasses and all the other things that folk love to make stereotypical jokes about.

Being honest, I slightly cringed when someone asked on these forums not long after the release of FM10 what an inside forward was.

Whats an inside forward?

Who needs the free tickets to a woman's game? You can stay at home as you know Arsenal will win

Only 10-0. :o

That wasn't the side my girlfriend plays for, so I was saved from moping.

I've always found this explanation is best for the ladies -

You're in a shoe shop, second in the queue for the till. Behind the shop assistant on the till is a pair of shoes which you have seen and which you must have.

The 'opposing' female shopper in front of you has seen them also and is eyeing them with desire.

Both of you have forgotten your purses.

It would be totally rude to push in front of the first woman if you had no money to pay for the shoes.

The shop assistant remains at the till waiting.

Your friend is trying on another pair of shoes at the back of the shop and sees your dilemma.

She prepares to throw her purse to you.

If she does so, you can catch the purse, then walk round the other shopper and buy the shoes.

At a pinch she could throw the purse ahead of the other shopper and, *whilst it is in flight* you could nip around the other shopper,

catch the purse and buy the shoes.

Always remembering that until the purse had *actually been thrown* it would be plain wrong to be forward of the other shopper.

I've always found this explanation is best for the ladies -

You're in a shoe shop, second in the queue for the till. Behind the shop assistant on the till is a pair of shoes which you have seen and which you must have.

The 'opposing' female shopper in front of you has seen them also and is eyeing them with desire.

Both of you have forgotten your purses.

It would be totally rude to push in front of the first woman if you had no money to pay for the shoes.

The shop assistant remains at the till waiting.

Your friend is trying on another pair of shoes at the back of the shop and sees your dilemma.

She prepares to throw her purse to you.

If she does so, you can catch the purse, then walk round the other shopper and buy the shoes.

At a pinch she could throw the purse ahead of the other shopper and, *whilst it is in flight* you could nip around the other shopper,

catch the purse and buy the shoes.

Always remembering that until the purse had *actually been thrown* it would be plain wrong to be forward of the other shopper.

*applauds*

Pure quality, mate.

Pretty embarrasing thread this and disappointing that its lasted here so long.

Not even some guys can understand backpasses.

I tried showing my girlfriend the offside rule with ketchup bottles. I was actually quite disappointed when she managed to get it on only the 2nd walkthrough...

That's not bad....really....my wife still can't see the difference when Rooney play for both MU and England.

Pretty embarrasing thread this and disappointing that its lasted here so long.

Why is it embarrassing?

It's just some guys have a laugh with the stereotypical view that women don’t understand football.

If you are saying it’s embarrassing due to people still having that stereotypical view than I think you will find most of the people are being tongue in cheek (at least that’s what it feels like to me)

Why is it embarrassing?

It's just some guys have a laugh with the stereotypical view that women don’t understand football.

If you are saying it’s embarrassing due to people still having that stereotypical view than I think you will find most of the people are being tongue in cheek (at least that’s what it feels like to me)

Sorry but I think it is sexist, and I don't find sexism any more amusing than racism.

This is a great community which has terrific discussions, I think its embarrasing and disappointing that it lowers itself to a thread like this. If my comments upsets some people, well, so they should.

Btw from SI's point of view, the OP is, tongue in cheek or not, aimed at 50% of your total potential market. Given that SI are probably, at least in the UK market, near saturation point for their initial target market, I'm sure they'd want people here to post in a way so that their forums enable them to embrace the remainder of their potential market.

Sorry but I think it is sexist, and I don't find sexism any more amusing than racism.

Fair enough. I don’t find sexism amusing either but I don’t really think you can classify this as sexism can you? It’s a couple of guys having a joke, admittedly at the expense of women, bit I think you can only classify this as sexism if you took it to the absolute degree. I think you will find that nobody that was making the joke was in any way trying to belittle women.