cezar.sl Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 From what I can figure, it means that the ranges of the -pa values have been changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoiberg Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 The ranges haven't changed AFAIK, I think it's referred to the algorithm than transforms the minus PA into a fixed one when creating a new game, probably tweaked to cover more range of different pa's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Can anyone expand on this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chochip Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 yeah probably the algorithm adjustments. It's meant to be random but I guess the results weren't random enough. (since there are no such things as completely random generation technically) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edle Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 If its an algorithm then its not strictly random I feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmeee17 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Yeah it's not supposed to be strictly random, otherwise there would be as many 19x players as there are 17x ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Coleman Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I believe this is to ensure that where the negative pa's overlap, not too many players get assigned a pa within that range. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Riz Remes Posted March 2, 2010 SI Staff Share Posted March 2, 2010 Like Stu said, this relates to the code that converts negative PA's into the final value used in the game. The ranges are still the same as they have been, but since those ranges do overlap each other, we adjusted the randomness within those ranges to balance that (ie. towards a more normal distribution within the range). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yid Army Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 So say -10 means 170-200. Before each value within that had an equal chance, but there will now be more 180-189 and less 170-179/190-200. Is that right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Riz Remes Posted March 2, 2010 SI Staff Share Posted March 2, 2010 In other ranges the chances were adjusted from a more equal system to a more Gaussian system, but -10 range has always been special in this regard and already had similar coding in place earlier to make the very top end of that range rarer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lambs Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 PA’s which can be generated by the negative numbers, go a something like this (origional source for values was "the away stand" iirc): * -10 = 170-200 * -9 = 150-180 * -8 = 130-160 * -7 = 110-140 * -6 = 90-120 * -5 = 70-100 * -4 = 50-80 * -3 = 30-60 * -2 = 10-40 * -1 = 0-30 Now if you had an even chance of -10 giving a value from 170-200 and an even chance of -9 giving 150-180 you will get twice as many players in the 170-180 range because both the -9 and -10 are generating it in this range. So my understanding of this, is the chance of generating a player in the over lap range has been reduced to give a more even spread across all the PA, instead of spikes in the number of players in the overlap range. Typing that hurt my head, so I hope you all understood what I was trying to explain. Note: this is all based off what I have read on the forums and is my interpretation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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