RandomManager Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Can you ever get a billion or more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limited z0 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I'd suppose so, unless the game is fixed to stop at a certain amount. But it would take a lot of saving LOL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjaxNo1 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Its probably possible depends on your board, my Ajax board cream about 16 million off my profits every season, if you have a board that dont touch the cash and your a good selling club with low assets then why not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 It's technically possible, but some of that is usually put into a 'reserve fund'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbutton Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 With edited data yes, while waiting for the patch i made a BSP team loaded and we had 1bill transfer budget Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Iirc you can get a maximum of about £2b, then the board keep putting money into the "reserve fund". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylad Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I think the reserve fund is to protect the value a little over 2billion (I can't remember it exactly) where the positive numbers roll round into negative, what basically happens is you are very very rich and suddenly find yourself over 2billion in debt after a certain point but, to actually answer your question, yes you can though to do it via legitimate means would be tough and take a very long time a quick look at my programming notes reveals that the value is 2,147,483,647 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisW Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 yes you can do it but i dont understand is why does the money become a negative after £2bn ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 yes you can do it but i dont understand is why does the money become a negative after £2bn ? It's just a programming 'limitation'. When it gets to the top of the range, it just turns negative because it can't go higher. If the value is higher - it would require more processing power. Something along those lines A programmer could probably tell you a lot better than I can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 yes you can do it but i dont understand is why does the money become a negative after £2bn ? Hardcoded limit in the FM core or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisW Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 its a bit severe though, you could of finally made your club the best and have an awesome finances then suddenly your in administration lol? surely just it stopping at £2bn and only going lower would be better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 You won't get to 2bn because money is moved to a reserve fund before you can get to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erasmus777 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 yes you can do it but i dont understand is why does the money become a negative after £2bn ? There are different kinds of "blocks" for storing numbers in your computer. They're using a signed 32-bit integer. In binary math, 31 bits gets you to 2,147,483,647. The last bit that would take you beyond that is reserved for the +/- sign, so when the program adds $1, rather than coming out to 2,147,483,648, it flips the +/- bit, so now you have a negative number. Here's what +/-1 looks like in a signed 32-bit integer: 000000000 00000000 00000000 00000001 = +1 100000000 00000000 00000000 00000001 = -1 So if: 01111111 11111111 11111111 11111111 = 2,147,483,647 Then: 11111111 11111111 11111111 11111111 = -2,147,483,647 See, that magic bit at the end is what gets flipped when you try to go above 2,147,483,647, but in a signed integer you get a negative number instead of a larger value. Simple enough, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermundr Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 And they say you never learn anything at these forums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalimyr Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 And they say you never learn anything at these forums Play Football Manager and learn computing 101 It's something you'll see in all sorts of situations in computer games: a character's level can be hacked to a maximum of 255, or health can be hacked to a max of 65,535 (or 32,767). These sorts of things sound familiar? It's also something that can occasionally provide a few strange bugs on forums and so on. Due to some poorly-written hacks for a vBulletin forum I'm a moderator on, it's possible for someone to have "0" posts but still have posts on the forum, and if we delete one of those posts, their postcount jumps from 0 to 4,294,967,295 and requires an admin to manually reset their postcount to 0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tektonik Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 If you mean richest clubs my long term save in 10.2 Real Madrid was worth 2.49 billion US dollars. And yes every year or 2 I get a message that they put money into a reserve fund. I have 216 million dollar turnover a year on average. Keep in mind that in that save I won practically everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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