Keeping the sub goalkeeper happy

I wonder how you guys pull it off... For the third I either get a very young one or a very bad one, but for the second you need a solid back-up, if not in more or less the same quality...

TBH my 1st choice keeper has never been injured in 2 seasons so have always had a weaker 2nd choice.

I rarely.. and I mean RARELY use my second goalkeeper, but I haven't had an issue keeping them happy since FM08, they always stay happy these days!

Can't keep 'em happy if they don't play. If they're about the same quality the second one will start moaning.

most of the time I dont put a keeper on the bench.............

I've managed to keep Lloris and Gomes happy for a season. Can't get much better than that for first choice and cover, especially when Gomes is still world class at 36.

The Premier League and decent runs in the CL/FA/LC left me with more than enough matches to keep both happy.

Mine never seems unhappy.

my backup just plays in all the dead rubber games and weaker teams in the lague does the job

Does anyone else ever play their weaker sub keeper in the cup and then forget to put your No. 1 back in when you play the league leaders on the Saturday? Bloody hell I hate that, squeaky bum 90mins they are.

I haven't had a problem with this for a while (as another poster said, FM08 was the last problematic version - I remember going through a number of upset backup keepers in my Hartlepool save back then) but I have an awesome goalie in my current game who has stayed injury free for a long time, so I just stick a youth keeper on the bench and hope my main man doesn't get injured or sent off.

My other reason for using a young sub keeper is that I'm managing in the Welsh Premier League, so I have a quota of homegrown players under a certain age to fulfill. As my once very young squad has started to mature, I've run out of players of the required age so having a young lad on the bench helps the team reach that target.

Backup gets the cup and some league matches to keep him interested

My backup keeper plays in all the reserve fixtures to keep him match fit. He needs to accept his status as backup to avoid complaining.

I usually play my second choice keeper in all the cup games (league cup, fa and cl/uefa). In cases where i have either not qualified to europe or am out of the cup competitions, i bring on the second choice keeper as a sub in the final 10-15 mins of a game where i am winning comfortably. As long as the "Games Played" column reads 10 games, i find my keeper to be happy even if he has played less than 150 mins the whole season

Does anyone else ever play their weaker sub keeper in the cup and then forget to put your No. 1 back in when you play the league leaders on the Saturday? Bloody hell I hate that, squeaky bum 90mins they are.

I did that for the FA Cup final, I put in a weak side for the last game of the season as I couldn't finish higher or lower than 4th, and then totally forgot to change the keeper back, noticed after about 5mins of the game, but didn't want to sub him as I just knew the 1st choice would get injured/sent off. Ended up losing 5-4 AET

In tough games and most away games, I use the no.1 keeper. For easy games, home and cup games I use the backup ( who is just as good as the no.1 ) I use the no.2 so they end up with about the same number of appearances.

I have a keeper who's been backup without a game for about 8 years. i should give him a run out but i'm sort of detemined never to let him play.

one game my starter got hurt and i didnt have my backup, let me tell you the game looked better i if had the option to put a extra d man in the back instead. Learned my lesson very well

In tough games and most away games, I use the no.1 keeper. For easy games, home and cup games I use the backup ( who is just as good as the no.1 ) I use the no.2 so they end up with about the same number of appearances.

Isn't that detrimental to having a settled, stable defence though?

You also need a good sub-keeper if your first choice is an international from a weird part of the world.

It also depends on what squad status he's got.

Backup or lower and I never play them. If they complain I tell them to be patient and if they ask to be transferred I let them go.

If they refuse to re-sign at Backup status I let their contract expire unless they have potential.

For a backup keeper with Rotation status I play them in at least a quarter of all games - usually in early cup matches or at home against weaker teams. If I'm newly promoted or just not expected to do well that season I'll play a Rotation keeper away against stronger opposition and 'sympathise' whenever they have a shocker.

I play sub GK in Cup games, and Champions League games once group position is secured and any league games which I got left after my final league position is announced. Usually for sub GK I'll get a experienced GK around the 32+ yrs old mark

I don't put a keeper on the bench in FM10 - goalies seem to be indestructive

I do however, play my second keeper in domestic cup competitions. I will also consider playing him in the odd league game against the lesser teams and usually if a league or tournament is won with a few games to spare.

He hasn't complained so every one is happy!

i play my 2nd gk in the cup and the league cup, and in every match i don't need to win, he gets about 10 matches per season. enough to keep him from complaining

I wonder how you guys pull it off... For the third I either get a very young one or a very bad one, but for the second you need a solid back-up, if not in more or less the same quality...

You are right, it also depends on the personality of the second keeper, if it is young and ambitious ( like my 2nd GK ) it is pretty much impossible to refrain him from his bla bla .. so usually I cut him 2 weeks of wages to calm him down

Rotate them or play them in just the cup games. Thats what I do and works fine for me.

Rotation is your friend mate.

There was one game (might have been an older one) were I had two very good but injury prone keepers. Never really settled on a number 1 for that reason, but usually did just play whoever was second choice in the cups. Although he then did complain about not playing in important games; which was annoying but also quite impressive the game recognized what I was doing. For third choice I usally went for whatever decent young keeper game through the youth system or signed a hopefully still decent player-coach who don't really care whether they play or not.

Why not loan the 2nd keeper out and have an option to recall him if your 1st keeper gets injured.

Not that hard, you just need to find a goalkeeper willing to get less than 10 matches per season.

I never have good second goalkeepers though. Usually I simply snap up players older than 34 as backup. Dean Kiely is doing a job for me in that role, and Raúl Navas Paúl is the other backup goalkeeper for me on loan from Sheffield United, a division down.

On occasion I've found some "good" backup goalkeeper - a young-ish Macedonian who turned out to be ambitious and professional and ended up turning into a decent goalkeeper himself - ended up making a profit on him. I also had a Japanese goalkeeper who made no league appearances in 6 years averaging 7 games per season. He would complain about a lack of games and when that happened I chucked him into a Cup game and all was well again. I could have kept repeating it until he retired but I found a better victim so I offered him mutual termination which he accepted willingly.

I have Gomes and Romero and keep them both happy ,gomes gets more games but Romero never moans,he lets the papers do that lol

I have a decent #2 keeper who threw a fit when I sold one of his friends; he got so mad that he demanded I transfer him. So I put him on the list and set about buying another keeper, and figured I should improve while I'm at it; now I've got a pretty good #1 and a #2 who's also good, but can't get a game in. Times like this I want to be able to say to him "How'd that whole "put me on the transfer list" thing work out for you?"

Guzan is having a benny for me at the moment about not getting games. I wouldn't qualify this as advice, but thus far I've simply ignored his increasingly anguished pleas.

Send ure other GK on loan with the option "recall" and then if he is needed just get him back.. do that all the time although Rene Adler is a GOD and has never been injured

I make my backup keeper play for the reserves and I play him in cups and the odd league match. He is happy all the time.

laughing my ass off over here

I've just managed 9 seasons, and now i've tied him to a long contract.

his grandchildren in years to come will be all "what did grandad do for a career?" and he'll say, "well i watched some football and sat down a lot, for £3,000 a week"

Generally i go for a young promising keeper to be no.2 playing him in cups and dead league games, then when my no.1 is getting on they will genrally accept a deal with a lower squad status and be more happy to play back up, allowing my No.2 to become progress,

But i never have a 3rd choice keeper

I play them in the league cup, or occasionally in easier league games, if my keeper has been a bit dodgy lately. Most of the time I don't even put on on the bench though.

i use all the methods above with rotation but also another way of keeping them happy is bringing them on when leading 3 or 4 goals or less than 10 mins to go. they get a game seems to keep them happy.

Yeah my second choice plays in league games that I can afford to, plus cup games and European games once I am qualified or against vastly inferior opposition.

In lots of cases though, where I am playing poor opposition in cups/Europe I will play my third choice/fourth choice, sometimes even fifth choice goalkeeper, as they are kids I want to get some first team experience.

i usually try & get the best gks i can 4 both the 1st & 2nd choice, I then rotate them, if one plays well, he stays in the team till hes lets in 3 goals or sumthin, then they switch, or if 1 is playing fanastic, i give the other the chance to shine, in the cups games.

usually wrks, neva had an unhappy gk.

sumtimes had unhappy midfielders, again cos i like to have the best players i can & rotate them.