Fans Unrealistic moaning

Hi does anyone else have a problem with the supporters spokeman moaning unrealistic

Im with leicester and i have got them in the prem and im 8th in first season but they have moaned because i lost to chelsea 2-1 man utd 3-1 and liverpool 3-2 i carnt believe that they have moaned because of them results they did say it was cause the lack of shots but what do the expect!!

this really bugs me

Yep, that's one of the things that bother me too, I lost vs Milan 2-1 away and my fans are 'devastated', I mean, come on !

Hi does anyone else have a problem with the supporters spokeman moaning unrealistic

Im with leicester and i have got them in the prem and im 8th in first season but they have moaned because i lost to chelsea 2-1 man utd 3-1 and liverpool 3-2 i carnt believe that they have moaned because of them results they did say it was cause the lack of shots but what do the expect!!

this really bugs me

I think they expect more shots.

Yep, that's one of the things that bother me too, I lost vs Milan 2-1 away and my fans are 'devastated', I mean, come on !

They're probably listed as one of your rivals.

I like when you go on a lengthy unbeaten run and the moment one of your most consistent performers has a bad game the fans believe he should not have played but your reserve player should have played instead

The fans in the game are even worse than IRL, and that's saying a lot.

Thats true i forgot that one i left Andy King out one week they wanted him in so i did i won next 3 games then lost to chelsea and then they moaned he should have been left out!!!!

Fans Who'd have them haha

They are ridiculous and it should be overhauled. They make no real allowance for relative reputation or player abilities or even if the game actually matters.

After already qualifying from my Europa League group (and winning the group too) I played a second-string side against Roma away and only got beaten 2-0. The fans were not happy and their reaction was poor, never mind that the match had no bearing on the group at all.

I lost away to Real Madrid 1-0 and they are very unhappy, even though Madrid have a team worth 10x what my team are worth, all because we are rivals. This is especially an issue in Italy where everyone is a everyone else's rival.

To be fair there was a improvement from last years when it comes to this oever it does still require a bit of tweaking.

I quite like it to be honest. Fans are always unhappy in real life and we should have to deal with or ignore this in the game.

Yeah, they once said I should have played a suspended centre back instead of his replacement. Thought that was a bit cheeky of them Im sure the FA would have noticed

I'm in my 3rd season with Sheffield Wednesday (2nd year in the Prem) and my fans are always disappointed when I lose to any of the big 4. Which is basically every time I play them.

It doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things, as long as I keep beating all the other teams I know I'll be safe. When have you ever known football fans to be logical creatures anyway?

I think start of season expectations makes a big difference as well. If you click the "attempt to avoid relegation" button, it seems the board and supporters know what to expect. Anything other than that, and you are risking the wrath of the fickle fan.

But yes, it is annyoing. I got my BSP team to the FA Cup Q-Final and lost 3-1 to Blackburn, and the fans were dissappointed. How about "proud" of a great cup run or something like that?

Playing as Cambridge in the Coca Cola League 2, we got Man U at Old Trafford in the FA Cup.

I think; "just keep it this side of seven, I'll be happy."

Final score: 2-0 defeat.

Fans: disappointed.

Ignore them.

Totally agree with the OP.

Also playing as Leicester, fans complaining we lose to the big 4 away from home.

Yes, this bugs me too... somehow unrealistic. Hope the new Patch looks into this!

If you have save games which show this, please upload them to our FTP and let us know so we can take a look - thanks.

It happens in every game, you shouldnt need any saves.

IRL QPR have lost twice to Chelsea at their place 1-0 in the last couple of seasons. Fans were very happy with the effort and performance and we did better than most prem teams do.

In FM, the fans would be moaning about it for a year. Expectations need to be adjusted, especially when the other team is odds on for a win.

I saw one where Milan lost the Italian Cup final to Inter and the fans were devastated. The guy said Milan had won the league title and Champions league and that the cup was not essential so although he lost to a rival it wouldnt have been that devastating as they had a good season and cup wasnt priority.

~Mine are all-ways happy with the players i sell

I'm assuming most of you guys don't go on many football forums then? Nearly every forum has fans moaning about their teams performances, not playing certain players, not attacking enough etc. It's what football fans are generally like.

Like I said, I like that the fans are often unhappy about things and I don't find it unrealistic at all. Of course there are one or two exceptions where the fans are unrealistic as some have said here, for example if a smaller team lost to Manchester United, the general opinion of the fans probably wouldn't be too bad.

I'm assuming most of you guys don't go on many football forums then? Nearly every forum has fans moaning about their teams performances, not playing certain players, not attacking enough etc. It's what football fans are generally like.

Like I said, I like that the fans are often unhappy about things and I don't find it unrealistic at all. Of course there are one or two exceptions where the fans are unrealistic as some have said here, for example if a smaller team lost to Manchester United, the general opinion of the fans probably wouldn't be too bad.

I agree in part, footy fans moan all the time but they defend their team against others especially rivals. In FM it seems that if they lose they are disappointed and the board pick up on this even if the other team is far superior. Im sure all those moons ago Sheffield Utd and Luton fans were more than happy to see their team play against the big boys rather than complain because they lost.

Honestly, I never look at the fan's reactions unless I'm starting to worry about my performances.

If you have save games which show this, please upload them to our FTP and let us know so we can take a look - thanks.

I have a save where they moaned at a 1-1 draw away in the champions league to a team I was suppose to lose to (first ever season in the champions leauge). And the chairman even had a go at the end of month evaluation. I would give a screen shot if I could get it to work.

It seems a non league team could be 1 up at Man U but if they concede in the last 10 mins to draw, the fans are always unhappy.

In reality, the fans would have got over that disappointment before they even arrived home and the NL team would be treated like heros.

The fans expectations are incredibly stupid, especially if one of the rivals are a team much better than you.

EG IRL QPR played 4 good prem teams away

Villa 0-1 QPR

Man U 1-0 QPR

Chelsea 1-0 QPR

Chelsea 1-0 QPR

Those are 4 very good results and the fans were happy with all the results.

In FM theyd be delighted with the Villa result but upset by the Man U (late goal) and Chelsea (rival) results.

Champions League Second Qualifier: Rosenborg - FK Tirana 2-1. Fans pleased [team played like crap, was 0-1 down at halftime on both legs]

Champions League 1st Knockout Round [WON the group with Wolfsburg and City...]. ManU - Rosenborg 2-1. Fans disappointed.

Also, they criticized the performance of a player who picked up an injury and had to hold on til the final whistle.

Apparently two narrow wins against a weak opposition are worth of praise, while a narrow defeat at Old f'n Trafford isn't good enough for a side who shouldn't even have reached that far in CL???

i find that fan reactions are unrealistic (as in real life) but now in the game you don't have to use it as a barometer as to when you're going to be sacked.

I've gotten dozens of 'devastated' reactions from fans when i was performing well in the league and was never in danger of being fired.

Hi.

Did You fix it?

10.3 repaired this bug?

This is so annoying and unrealistic.

Hi.

Did You fix it?

10.3 repaired this bug?

This is so annoying and unrealistic.

Can You answer this question?

Did You fix it?

Thanks in advance

I rekon they havent. Confidence issues and the conputer using the board/fans to complain is a long term issue.

It happens in every game, you shouldnt need any saves.

IRL QPR have lost twice to Chelsea at their place 1-0 in the last couple of seasons. Fans were very happy with the effort and performance and we did better than most prem teams do.

In FM, the fans would be moaning about it for a year. Expectations need to be adjusted, especially when the other team is odds on for a win.

I see, quick enough to slate the game, yet unwilling to help them put it right? That makes a lot of sense.

Just set the team to shoot on sight, when you're playing big teams and the fans are moaning, then put some players on long shots and let them go hell for leather at the goal.

Get Ball Forward

Shoot on sight

Pump Ball into box

Should increase the amount of shots you have.

And to be honest, not sure if it's fixed, but 9/10 long shots are parryed by the keeper right out in front of the goal, so you get an easy tap in most times.

I've scored a lot of my goals this way. Keepers should be parrying the ball out wide, but they don't, at least in 10.2 they didn't.

Ah well, if the fans moan how does affect things? Dip in morale? Board not happy? Players not happy?

Can somebody confirm if there has been any difference in 10.3? thanks

I don't think so, Eugene.

But it's too unrealistic. Isn't it?

I started a BSS league team, and got them to the BSP, and now im 1st, and already guaranteed a play off place (im going to win it tho), and yet my team is "satisfied" with my performance, and I constantly get messages saying I am about to get sacked.

Very annoying, was QPR and lost to tottenham 1-0 after extra time (in the first season) and they moaned.. its just stupid it seems they have no concept of who u played ect

Same problem here. Turned Villa into a cup specialist team that had beaten Spurs twice for the Carling and FA Cups, followed by a Europa League Cup win against Liverpool. So all in all, a treble is not the worst thing in the world. Lost the game of the season to Arsenal, 2-1, only conceding a late goal. Fans devastated, U-18 players should've played instead of starters that got us the treble.

The following preseason, Villa won the the Community Shield against Chelsea 2-0 and the UEFA Super Cup against Arsenal 5-0. What a coincedince, no complaints with the same players.

Usually, I don't pay attention to these complaints though unless we're on a horrid run.

I agree in part, footy fans moan all the time but they defend their team against others especially rivals. In FM it seems that if they lose they are disappointed and the board pick up on this even if the other team is far superior. Im sure all those moons ago Sheffield Utd and Luton fans were more than happy to see their team play against the big boys rather than complain because they lost.

Heck, here in the US... even when we win, the fans bitch, moan and complain that the team didn't destroy their opponents. Even when like in the case of the other day when Bradley was just using American players who are in preseason and are trying to make the last spots of the 23 man roster. I mean, yeah... the result might not be the same as if every top player was playing.

It's not so much that they shouldn't be moaning - they of course should because that's we as football supporters do best - it's the expectations that need to be tempered, or at least an indication that the fans perhaps understand why a game was lost.

It's especially frustrating for those of us who've taken a small team to the big league and maybe had a level of success, only to be told that the fans are disappointed when you lose your first away game in Europe against a massive world famous team, despite the fact that when you took over the team was languishing in the lower reaches etc. That shouldn't last forever obviously, and expectations should change over time, which i'm sure they do.

Same problem here, and it is very annoying. I'm not gonna give specific examples here, most of you already did.

And does fans' moaning affect players' morale/motivation? If it does, then it's all the worse.

For the SI dude up there who asked for the save game so he could take a look at this issue, come on, man, no offense, but this happens every time, there's no way you and your playtesters would have missed it.

Every now and then into 10.2 fans complain with no reason, for example a draw not @ home with a stronger team is not a reason to complain, above all if the loosing team performed quite well despiting the result.

It's obvious the game is progammed so that the fans respond well to a win and badly to a loss no matter who the opposition are.

You could win 1-0 against a team 3 divisions below you and they are pleased and lose 1-0 to Man Utd and they are unhappy. There is no variety in the supporters response. No mention of a close game, gutsy performance, disallowed goals etc.. On the flip side no mention of only struggling to beat a minnow team.

It's a poor boring addition to the game at the mo. It seems purely cosmetic to me.

I agree, a feature must be well implemented otherwise it must erased once for ever

does it make a real difference tho , has anyone ever been sacked because of the fans ?

Do people not bother actually looking at the confidence bar, and just read the news item?

If you lose to a team far better than you, you get a fan match rating of around 45% - that pretty much means "didn't pick up any points - so not above 50 - but performance was good"

Those ~45% only have any effect if they build up - i.e you go on a long run without any wins.

Similarly, if you're a big team and you win easy matches with a solid scoreline you get a 50% - which has no effect either positive or negative.

Portsmouth this season have made every team work to take points off them, and have put in some pretty solid performances - but they haven't got the points to show for it. I doubt their fans would be actively happy (>50%) about their performance.

The only place it needs to be tweaked is for teams of vastly different rep, especially when they are rivals, where the bigger club wins. Otherwise, the feature works fine.

Yes they moan alot, but its just like that in real life!

Do people not bother actually looking at the confidence bar, and just read the news item?

I don't know why the confidence bar isn't shown in the news item? It's just a small graphic. I see no reason why someone has to go to another screen to see the confidence bar?

It's silly and yet another waste of space and time within the game layout.

The fans in the game are even worse than IRL, and that's saying a lot.

LOL ... sadly this is so true