What an awful unrealistic game

Im sorry but ive been playing this game for weeks and every team i manage ends up mid table or near relegation. my teams always seem to concede absolute screamers its a joke.

Whats so unrealistic is the unbelieveable amount of goals from long distance, i mean i was playing a match once as watford against sheff utd.... 35 minutes gone its 0-0, then all of a sudden sheff utd score 5 screamers (all outside the area) and there is only 60 minutes gone!!

In that same season i am 4-0 up at half time against doncaster!! and with 70 minutes gone its still 4-0... then again all of sudden the screamers start flying in and i lose the game 5-4 (3 were screamers)

What a joke, it just wouldnt and doesnt happen i dont care what anyone says, ive tried every tactic going, and plus, tactics shouldnt have such a massive bearing on a match especially when you are 4-0 up at half time against doncaster.

Of all the FM games for some reason this one is the worst. FM08 all the way

Im sorry but ive been playing this game for weeks and every team i manage ends up mid table or near relegation. my teams always seem to concede absolute screamers its a joke.

Whats so unrealistic is the unbelieveable amount of goals from long distance, i mean i was playing a match once as watford against sheff utd.... 35 minutes gone its 0-0, then all of a sudden sheff utd score 5 screamers (all outside the area) and there is only 60 minutes gone!!

In that same season i am 4-0 up at half time against doncaster!! and with 70 minutes gone its still 4-0... then again all of sudden the screamers start flying in and i lose the game 5-4 (3 were screamers)

What a joke, it just wouldnt and doesnt happen i dont care what anyone says, ive tried every tactic going, and plus, tactics shouldnt have such a massive bearing on a match especially when you are 4-0 up at half time against doncaster.

Of all the FM games for some reason this one is the worst. FM08 all the way

I guess you never watched Cardiff City vs Peterborough a few weeks back....

or Angola v Malowi

have you updated to 10.2?

Given that there are thousands of people out there winning every cup known to man on this game, it's probably not the game that's awful, but you.

have you updated to 10.2?

What he said. There are still a fair few goals from distance on 10.2 but the game certainly isn't awful, and it definitely isn't just the AI scoring them.

Yes i did see the peterborough comeback but they RARELY happen, im talking about this happening several times a season to me, one team.

I really believe it isnt me thats crap as on 07 08 and 09 i had got lower league teams to the prem and even won cups with them.

I have got the 10.2 patch

Its just not a very realistic game with all these long shots and goals,

you mention them comebacks which ended up in a draw but they didnt lose a 4-0 lead with 20 minutes left to lose 5-4.

I try to get the team playing organised, less roaming, sticking to position and the team concedes more goals.. lol its very very very frustrating.

With 2 comebacks from 4-0 to 4-4 in the last 2 weeks, not so rare! (Angola v Mali and Peterborough v Cardiff) As a Spurs fan I can assure you that capitulation from 3-0 up is not impossible, and with the likes of Gallas, Luke Young etc scoring screamers from distance against us in the last few years it really doesn't surprise me when I see them in game. There are many, many threads on the 1v1 'bug' and most of these will link you to ways to score goals.

Yes i did see the peterborough comeback but they RARELY happen, im talking about this happening several times a season to me, one team.

I really believe it isnt me thats crap as on 07 08 and 09 i had got lower league teams to the prem and even won cups with them.

I have got the 10.2 patch

Its just not a very realistic game with all these long shots and goals,

you mention them comebacks which ended up in a draw but they didnt lose a 4-0 lead with 20 minutes left to lose 5-4.

I try to get the team playing organised, less roaming, sticking to position and the team concedes more goals.. lol its very very very frustrating.

Some of the long shots, CCC's, and goal keeper bug isn't very realistic at all, aside from that, it is the best football management simulation on the market. If you want to play a football management sim then, this is the way to go and you just have to get on with it until patch 10.3 comes out and hopefully fixes a few of these issues.

yeah game so unrealistic just finshed my 2nd season with ac milan and udinese won the league and TOTTENHAM won the premier league sorry tottenham fans not going to happan and that was on patch 10.2 having said that i still love football manager O.U.F.C

If you are patched to 10.2 then it's you. No one else seems to have this problem.

10.1 had a long-shot issue, but this has been replaced with too many 1-v-1 chances being created and subsequently missed.

TOTTENHAM won the premier league sorry tottenham fans not going to happan

We'll see

yeah game so unrealistic just finshed my 2nd season with ac milan and udinese won the league and TOTTENHAM won the premier league sorry tottenham fans not going to happan and that was on patch 10.2 having said that i still love football manager O.U.F.C

In game Spurs are very strong, much like IRL now. I personally do not believe we could win the Prem this year or next, but (and this is the huge but) if we can keep Modric, Lennon, Corluka, Gomes, Palacios, JD and a couple of others then in 2 or 3 seasons there is no reason why we can't be up there. Barring the usual Spurs disasters (going behind our managers back to get some useless foreigner in, etc).

yeah game so unrealistic just finshed my 2nd season with ac milan and udinese won the league and TOTTENHAM won the premier league sorry tottenham fans not going to happan and that was on patch 10.2 having said that i still love football manager O.U.F.C

Even as an Arsenal fan, I can see that under Harry Redknapp they are certainly going in the right direction. It wasn't long ago they were challenging us for fourth spot. They just need to maybe tighten up a bit at the back a little IMO as they've certainly got goals in them.

Unfortunatley for Tottenham this resurgence has come at a time when Man City, Everton and Aston Villa are also enjoying good spells, and Birmingham are doing well and could be a force to be reckoned with next season if they invest sensibly. But that's what makes the Premier League great.

A little off topic but just thought I would make my point on that.

citing examples isnt going to help the poor fellow. do you have a screenshot of the 5-4 match?

It's not THAT unrealistic, except for the usual 'too many CCCs', 'exaggerated response to team talk', 'dumb signings'...

Long shot problem isn't one of them any more.

your having a laugh yeah tottenham will not win the premier league next season or the season after that i will put my house on the game is unrealistic

your having a laugh yeah tottenham will not win the premier league next season or the season after that i will put my house on the game is unrealistic

Of course everyone agrees that it is unrealistic compared to real life.

SI can only try to make it as realistic as possible and still enjoyable at the same time.

And you don't "know" that tottenham will never win the league unless you came back from the future.

Im sorry but ive been playing this game for weeks and every team i manage ends up mid table or near relegation. my teams always seem to concede absolute screamers its a joke.

Whats so unrealistic is the unbelieveable amount of goals from long distance, i mean i was playing a match once as watford against sheff utd.... 35 minutes gone its 0-0, then all of a sudden sheff utd score 5 screamers (all outside the area) and there is only 60 minutes gone!!

In that same season i am 4-0 up at half time against doncaster!! and with 70 minutes gone its still 4-0... then again all of sudden the screamers start flying in and i lose the game 5-4 (3 were screamers)

What a joke, it just wouldnt and doesnt happen i dont care what anyone says, ive tried every tactic going, and plus, tactics shouldnt have such a massive bearing on a match especially when you are 4-0 up at half time against doncaster.

Of all the FM games for some reason this one is the worst. FM08 all the way

FM2008 was the worst of recent times...

Got so carried away with Spurs being insulted that I missed the classic line of 'tactics shouldnt have such a massive bearing on a match'. Ok then, so you think you can just tell them to go out there and do what they like? No wonder your teams struggling.

And I agree FM08 was bugged to hell and it was the first version that I stopped playing well before the new one, well before the football season even ended, trust me, for me that is unheard of.

Well, I think reality proves that the quality of the manager makes a huge difference on the team's performance.

I also agree that FM08 was atrocious compared to now, with all those unrealistic railing-like arrows

I have come to the conclusion that it is a faulty installation of FM that is causing this.

if your conceding from long shots then why dont you try closing down the opposition?

Mayby even try employing a defensive midfielder if you havent already

oh its those complaining people who dont know much about football. they expect to win every game because they have a strong team. better get to know football better before you post complains like this

I really dislike threads like this to be honest, I can understand some peoples frustration with the game, but when they lose games without making tactical changes, for them to turn around and say 'the game is awful and unrealistic' isn't really fair. If we had a game where people won every game, I'm sure we'd have less complaints. I can understand if people do have issues with too many long shots or missed chances, but if you feel strongly enough about it, please bring up the issue with relevant examples in our bugs forum and we'll take a look. Thanks.

Neil, I believe the majority of people on these forums hate these threads too. Just pointless and insulting to you guys.

oh its those complaining people who dont know much about football. they expect to win every game because they have a strong team. better get to know football better before you post complains like this asshole

might want to edit that btw, just incase cause with a thread like this the mods with definatly be looking at it

I hate people who say the game isn't realistic. They think Spurs winning the league shouldn't be heard of, but they think it's realistic to take a Blue Square team to the Premiership in 5 seasons. If they are winning matches then they think it's realistic. Laughable!

Enjoy the game and stop whinging.

This is clearly the most realistic management game ever. So when people say its not realistic. They're talking out of there @ss. If you want an unrealistic management game, go and play fifa manager, then come back and complain. You won't be able to because compared to Fifa. This is Champions league standard. And Fifa is hardly Blue Square.

You really get my goat. Maybe if you were better at the game. You may not find it so unrealistic. Believe it or not, you have to have some considerable knowledge about football.. Like in real life. You won't see a manager who's never seen a game of football before. You i'm afraid seem to have no knowledge about the game.

i came runner up in the prem with this squad:

kameni

jose enrique

zapata

gary cahill

jagielka

milner

busquets

nolan/guthrie

valencia

vagner love

borriello

city topped the league-they beat me last game of the season-i was top all year n they hammered me 6-0 lol. i've never seen a game with zapata concede 6 but np they had tevez-who is top scorer pretty much every season in my game

the game isnt spot on real-coz if it was there'd b no point playing it, but sometimes it feels like success is relative-if you have a top squad for the club you're at-you will do better than bigger teams who have better teams than you-but their team isn't as good as it could be for the status they are.

fm owns, gotta define a long range screamer, coz i was complainin a while ago-but i was counting 20yard goals as long range screamers-but realistically that's just outside the box, that kind of goal should be common

If we had a game where people won every game, I'm sure we'd have less complaints.

Please never ever do this!

Neil, I believe the majority of people on these forums hate these threads too. Just pointless and insulting to you guys.

Agreed completely

Just a suggestion but maybe just maybe it's your tactics.

Quite possibly

Yes i did see the peterborough comeback but they RARELY happen, im talking about this happening several times a season to me, one team.

I really believe it isnt me thats crap as on 07 08 and 09 i had got lower league teams to the prem and even won cups with them.

The ironic thing is that what's unrealistic is getting a team from the lower leagues and into the prem, and what is realistic is a team hanging around mid-table for decades. And yet the former is what we want from FM as it's a game. It's all about living out our football fantasies, things that would never happen in the real world (us being managers for a start).

Personally, I'm finding FM is getting too realistic for it's own good. Even with patch 10.2 and it's improvements, I've gone back to FM07 purely because it's simpler and more fun. No press conferences (and I know you can use your assistant manager, but I don't want him messing things up needlessly), and not needing to constantly analyse my tactics every match (I love tinkering with tactics, it's normally what keeps me going, but it's just becoming too stressful with FM10). While SI have tried to simplify things with the new tactical wizard, at the same time they're taking advice off FM players who spend way too much time reading into things tactically, and there's a few of us who don't want that.

I really dislike threads like this to be honest, I can understand some peoples frustration with the game, but when they lose games without making tactical changes, for them to turn around and say 'the game is awful and unrealistic' isn't really fair. If we had a game where people won every game, I'm sure we'd have less complaints. I can understand if people do have issues with too many long shots or missed chances, but if you feel strongly enough about it, please bring up the issue with relevant examples in our bugs forum and we'll take a look. Thanks.

Why don't you read some of my latest threads, especially some in Cleons thread.

Some people spend hours on it and still fail.

I tend to believe people who are doing well, play with very good sides and extreemly attacking football with very heavy centrally based tactics.

Have you ever noticed as well, these threads only appear when the player is the victim? When they benefit from "superkeepers", "long shots" or "unrealistic transfers" (to name three examples), there isn't a thread created?

I really dislike threads like this to be honest, I can understand some peoples frustration with the game, but when they lose games without making tactical changes, for them to turn around and say 'the game is awful and unrealistic' isn't really fair. If we had a game where people won every game, I'm sure we'd have less complaints. I can understand if people do have issues with too many long shots or missed chances, but if you feel strongly enough about it, please bring up the issue with relevant examples in our bugs forum and we'll take a look. Thanks.

Wth you takling about? It is unrealistic as hell. I wrote milion times how come i need 20 shots on goal to score once and oponent 2 for 2 goals. When this hapend? Allways loosing against weaklings with strong teams. That is really unrealistic. Of course you don't like complains, you are from corporate. Your living depends on my money. i dislike to pay for unfinished product like this junk same way like you dislike my post.

Calm down mate.

yeah game so unrealistic just finshed my 2nd season with ac milan and udinese won the league and TOTTENHAM won the premier league sorry tottenham fans not going to happan and that was on patch 10.2 having said that i still love football manager O.U.F.C

The excat same thing happend to me Spurs won the league in the second season on mine

Seems to me another individual who isnt good enough at the game therefore blames it for him/herself doing badly.

1. You're an idiot.

2. You're an idiot.

3. go and try to find a football sim game that is more realistic than FM.

4. Don't come back until you find one.

There is game far superior in my personal opinion then FM10, that is FM07. So there is football sim game that is more realistic then FM10.

I really dislike threads like this to be honest, I can understand some peoples frustration with the game, but when they lose games without making tactical changes, for them to turn around and say 'the game is awful and unrealistic' isn't really fair. If we had a game where people won every game, I'm sure we'd have less complaints. I can understand if people do have issues with too many long shots or missed chances, but if you feel strongly enough about it, please bring up the issue with relevant examples in our bugs forum and we'll take a look. Thanks.

Neil, to be honest if you didn't get this, then something is very wrong with this Forums. When people criticism that FM game sucks it is not about winning or loosing. I mean I would be stupid if that was the reason. It is about the game sometimes feel unfair to the players, it is not understanding why somethings happen that way that comes out of nowhere.

Seems to me another individual who isnt good enough at the game therefore blames it for him/herself doing badly.

It is not about LOOSING. Geez. It is about the AI seems to have the upper hand in several cases and not understanding why is that.

From your OP, I can tell that you aren't the greatest manager ever. What teams are you managing btw? (Sorry if you mentioned it above, on a bit of a hurry so can't afford time to read the entire thread, just the OP)

if i were you go to www.ebay.co.uk and sell it.

Im sorry but ive been playing this game for weeks and every team i manage ends up mid table or near relegation. my teams always seem to concede absolute screamers its a joke.

Whats so unrealistic is the unbelieveable amount of goals from long distance, i mean i was playing a match once as watford against sheff utd.... 35 minutes gone its 0-0, then all of a sudden sheff utd score 5 screamers (all outside the area) and there is only 60 minutes gone!!

In that same season i am 4-0 up at half time against doncaster!! and with 70 minutes gone its still 4-0... then again all of sudden the screamers start flying in and i lose the game 5-4 (3 were screamers)

What a joke, it just wouldnt and doesnt happen i dont care what anyone says, ive tried every tactic going, and plus, tactics shouldnt have such a massive bearing on a match especially when you are 4-0 up at half time against doncaster.

Tactics have a massive bearing on the game, regardless of if you're 4-0 up at half time. Maybe go to a 4-1-4-1 formation with the DMC man marking and closing the long range specialist?

There is game far superior in my personal opinion then FM10, that is FM07. So there is football sim game that is more realistic then FM10.

Neil, to be honest if you didn't get this, then something is very wrong with this Forums. When people criticism that FM game sucks it is not about winning or loosing. I mean I would be stupid if that was the reason. It is about the game sometimes feel unfair to the players, it is not understanding why somethings happen that way that comes out of nowhere.

It is not about LOOSING. Geez. It is about the AI seems to have the upper hand in several cases and not understanding why is that.

FM07 was a great edition of FM, but to say it has more realism than 10 is just a complete falsehood. Yes there is still work to be done on some areas of the game, press conferences and team talks in particular, but the level of interactions has improved immensely since 07. You may have a case to say 07 is more enjoyable or better but more realistic, no.

If its not about the winning or losing, how come the only people that ever complain about these 'bugs' and this 'broken game' are the ones who have lost a game that they feel their team of superstars had a divine right to win? No team has ever had the right to win games,( ask the Mancs and scousers the last couple of weeks) and yes the most unlikely players will come up with 35 yard screamers once in a while.

No one has ever moaned when they've turned in a great result and have just hammered Barca in the CL final with their BSP team.

So I'll repeat myself, it is about the losing. As for the AI having the upper hand? Yeah it makes perfect business sense to make a game that is impossible to beat doesn't it?

Every year the same old arguments and same old moans, just gets a little tiring. Especially when for those struggling managers there are plenty of people willing to help and they generally get shot down, because no one wants to admit that they are not very good at FM. Man up and accept it people.

If people want to complain about the game they're more than welcome to, but to create threads stating the game is 'awful' and 'unrealistic' I personally not only take offence to, but find a complete falsehood. As I've stated time and time again, if you have an issue, please take the time to bring it up in a decent manner, perhaps with specific examples so we can take a look and improve it. If you're just going to say 'the game is rubbish' it really doesn't do anyone any favours. Sometimes teams just dominate games and lose. Sometimes you overattack and they catch you on the break. Change your tactics, use your opposition instructions - some people have had great success with different tactics. If you feel only certain types of tactics work, post as such and suggest why you think other tactics don't work.

We try and take everything on board and work towards something which is not only fun for the user, but realistic to football. If you find you're conceding too many long shots, pack the midfield and have players closing down. Play a higher line so they'll have to shoot from 60 yards and not 30 yards!

Dont listen to stupid critisim this edition is by the far most in depth realistic version to date. and i am loving every minute i play.

yes i do get angry when i dominate (76% possesion and 24 attempts on goal to lose 1-0) but that is football management!!

Dont listen to stupid critisim this edition is by the far most in depth realistic version to date. and i am loving every minute i play.

yes i do get angry when i dominate (76% possesion and 24 attempts on goal to lose 1-0) but that is football management!!

Possibly the most sensible comment i've read in this thread

First of all its not the losing or drawing which is annoying me, Ive been very successfull on all other versions of FM, ive always loved it.

But to me, this version does seem to have so many occasions which are rare in reality that happen all the time in FM. Yes its the most realistic management game out but there is F all competition to be fair.

Yes i havent managed the TOP teams this series as its not much of a challenge.

Apart from long shots Im always getting a massive burst of goals in games such as 3 goals in 5 minutes which i no dus happen in real life but not very often!

Ill probably just play 5-5-0 and draw 0-0 every game

First of all its not the losing or drawing which is annoying me, Ive been very successfull on all other versions of FM, ive always loved it.

But to me, this version does seem to have so many occasions which are rare in reality that happen all the time in FM. Yes its the most realistic management game out but there is F all competition to be fair.

Yes i havent managed the TOP teams this series as its not much of a challenge.

Apart from long shots Im always getting a massive burst of goals in games such as 3 goals in 5 minutes which i no dus happen in real life but not very often!

Ill probably just play 5-5-0 and draw 0-0 every game

If you said this instead of your opening rant, the chances are you would have got a more positive response

Rather than hand out infractions and warnings in this thread, I have edited some of the posts. Please cut out the personal abuse and unnecessary comments. Thanks