RandomManager Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 If you could use your career earnings to invest in the club you are managing. Eg you managed Arsenal then moved to Hednesford, invest in club to improve facilities or players. Give your opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer89 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I like that idea, I think it was in one of the FIFA Manager series, I thought it was a good idea then, would be good for them to add this feature imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hershie Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Suggested a number of times but I can't see it being introduced. Not very realistic is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NepentheZ Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I would like to see something like this, however, career earnings is such a bit bracket, that it would be hard. If you earn £30,000,000 over 10 years, you don't necessarily have £30,000,000 in the bank. You could have sponged it all away by that point. I would like to see a feature though, where the managers wages can be used for in-game things. (Not like a house and car). For example, I wanted to buy Doogie Freedman for my Croydon Municipal side. He was valued at £500 - but I had no transfer funds, and no option to ask for them. I would have happilly paid the money out of my own pocket Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomManager Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 I would like to see something like this, however, career earnings is such a bit bracket, that it would be hard. If you earn £30,000,000 over 10 years, you don't necessarily have £30,000,000 in the bank. You could have sponged it all away by that point.I would like to see a feature though, where the managers wages can be used for in-game things. (Not like a house and car). For example, I wanted to buy Doogie Freedman for my Croydon Municipal side. He was valued at £500 - but I had no transfer funds, and no option to ask for them. I would have happilly paid the money out of my own pocket Yeah, of course not all your career earnings are invested some go towards homes etc but a little just to put a little more fun into non league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenChap Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 id invest in golddiggers, im sure ashley cole wouldnt mind his manager teachin cheryl a move or 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkLife Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 i would love for that to be intruduced. how about if you are massively successfull with a top 4 team and you earn alot of money every week, maybe you could force a takeover of a smaller club while still managing your club and watching out for the smaller club and hope to make a tidy profit on the money that you have invested into the club that you can take over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam S Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Totally agree with this idea. The problem the game has at the moment is they say "You have been offered a contract at £1,299 a week" and you just think, "So??" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neopherus Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Suggested a number of times but I can't see it being introduced. Not very realistic is it? How is it not realistic? It's your money, you do whatever you want with it! You can't spend it in any other way, so why not use it to make your job a little easier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutontown1991 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 How is it not realistic? It's your money, you do whatever you want with it! You can't spend it in any other way, so why not use it to make your job a little easier? It would turn into Football Chairman 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neopherus Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 It would turn into Football Chairman 2011 So friggin what? If you want realism, you have to include the options a real live manager has. If he has a slump of cash stashed around, joins a new club and thinks, "this seems like a good investment", who will say, "NO, that's not realistic!"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 So friggin what? If you want realism, you have to include the options a real live manager has. If he has a slump of cash stashed around, joins a new club and thinks, "this seems like a good investment", who will say, "NO, that's not realistic!"? FM will never take this route if you want this play Fifa Manger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neopherus Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 FM will never take this route if you want this play Fifa Manger Heard that one before.. I will never play Fifa Manager, but that doesn't ban me from ever agreeing with with a suggestion. And have you heard of punctuation? It's a new german vehicle that adds "sudden stop" and "comma" to the list of safety measures! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Heard that one before.. I will never play Fifa Manager, but that doesn't ban me from ever agreeing with with a suggestion. Im not having a dig im stating that SI have said this will not be put into the game. I to would never play Fifa Manager ive seen it being played it looks rubish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neopherus Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Im not having a dig im stating that SI have said this will not be put into the game. I to would never play Fifa Manager ive seen it being played it looks rubish Then we agree on something. Excuse the edit in my last post, but I'm not having a good day :s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 ok was going to say have you heard of dyslexia anyways but dont worry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NepentheZ Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Then we agree on something. Excuse the edit in my last post, but I'm not having a good day :s Heard that one before.. I will never play Fifa Manager, but that doesn't ban me from ever agreeing with with a suggestion.And have you heard of punctuation? It's a new german vehicle that adds "sudden stop" and "comma" to the list of safety measures! Ironically, your punctuation in that second quoted post, is incorrect on at least 3 occasions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neopherus Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Ironically, you're punctuation in that second quoted post, is incorrect on at least 3 occasions. I know. But I'm Norwegian. And it's "your". "You're" means "you are". GRAMMARNAZIS UNITED! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NepentheZ Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Ha. I have a valid reason for the you're not being your - I was starting the sentence with You're, but then changed my mind mid way about what I wanted to say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neopherus Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Ha. I have a valid reason for the you're not being your - I was starting the sentence with You're, but then changed my mind mid way about what I wanted to say Hehe. Should I take offense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NepentheZ Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 You can take anything you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neopherus Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 You can take anything you want. Great, thanks. Compliment, it is! Now let's stop hogging this thread. I'm sure the op wants more on-topic responses. And I have to pee! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aw083 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I agree in the sense that the 'total career earnings' currently means nothing other than what you've been paid for managing in FM. But I do also think this is too FIFA Manager for it to be included in FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutontown1991 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 So friggin what? If you want realism, you have to include the options a real live manager has. If he has a slump of cash stashed around, joins a new club and thinks, "this seems like a good investment", who will say, "NO, that's not realistic!"? I would think ''NO, that's not realistic'' Its a stupid gimmicky idea but ya if you want to turn Football Manager into Fifa manager then be my guest. Remember Anelka's brother who had cash and invested in a club and made himself manager. Look how that turned out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackripper Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Suggested a number of times but I can't see it being introduced. Not very realistic is it? Why is it not realistic i read somewhere that the Neville brothers were suplying Bury to help with finances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I would think ''NO, that's not realistic''Its a stupid gimmicky idea but ya if you want to turn Football Manager into Fifa manager then be my guest. If I had a penny..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hershie Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Why is it not realistic i read somewhere that the Neville brothers were suplying Bury to help with finances. Because it's so rare, and when it does happen it's never a considerable amount of finance (which implementing this would allow) unless it's the case that the manager in question actually owns a stake in the club - and the 'chairman manager' route isn't a good one. It's just not a common enough occurance to merit implementation, and having it in the game would most likely just create unrealistic scenarios. The Nevilles aren't managers either are they? So it's not a very relevent example.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Because it's so rare, and when it does happen it's never a considerable amount of finance (which implementing this would allow) unless it's the case that the manager in question actually owns a stake in the club - and the 'chairman manager' route isn't a good one. It's just not a common enough occurance to merit implementation, and having it in the game would most likely just create unrealistic scenarios.The Nevilles aren't managers either are they? So it's not a very relevent example.. It may not happen enough IRL, but we aren't all playing together in one big game (network games aside), so I don't really see it being a problem, unless all the AI managers started doing the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hershie Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 It may not happen enough IRL, but we aren't all playing together in one big game (network games aside), so I don't really see it being a problem, unless all the AI managers started doing the same. It doesn't happen - and I can't ever see SI including it. It'd just lead to people adding themselves at a big club, quitting after a few months and then going to a smaller club and propping it up on their previous earnings, which just doesn't happen. If you want a small club to have an unrealistic amount or source of income, use the editor. The user should never have the advantage over the AI as such, as you suggest, either. If it were to be introduced, AI managers would surely have to have the same abilities. :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 It doesn't happen - and I can't ever see SI including it. It'd just lead to people adding themselves at a big club, quitting after a few months and then going to a smaller club and propping it up on their previous earnings, which just doesn't happen. If you want a small club to have an unrealistic amount or source of income, use the editor.The user should never have the advantage over the AI as such, as you suggest, either. If it were to be introduced, AI managers would surely have to have the same abilities. :confused: I can't see SI including it either, but I'd still like to see the feature included. I quite like the idea of starting off small, going big, then buying out a smaller team or being a sort of sugar daddy, and taking them to glory. For the long term save players, it looks like a good prospective to put what you've earned into something worthwhile. Personally, I've been managing Leeds and have not been able to afford a player I've needed, and I would like to be able to pump my own funds into a transfer. I'm not sure if I'm making much sense mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hershie Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I can't see SI including it either, but I'd still like to see the feature included. I quite like the idea of starting off small, going big, then buying out a smaller team or being a sort of sugar daddy, and taking them to glory. For the long term save players, it looks like a good prospective to put what you've earned into something worthwhile. Personally, I've been managing Leeds and have not been able to afford a player I've needed, and I would like to be able to pump my own funds into a transfer.I'm not sure if I'm making much sense mate. You're making sense. However the whole idea of essentially acting as a sugar daddy, or even just propping up the club on your own finances (as a shareholder perhaps, or at least as a stakeholder) isn't a direction that it seems SI want to go down, and with good reason. Few players and managers in reality have the money available to do such, prefering to be extravagant and extrovert when they have the chance, so I think including such a feature would delve into areas of private life that the game should be well avoiding. While long-term career managers may see a benefit, I think overwhelmingly such a feature would be used in a wholly unrealistic manner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted December 15, 2009 SI Staff Share Posted December 15, 2009 We've still got lots of things we want to do with the manager role before thinking about potentially expanding any other roles in the game. Even then it's highly unlikely it would be the chairman role. I would much rather see something like director of football and head coach roles being developed like you find in a lot of European countries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 You're making sense. However the whole idea of essentially acting as a sugar daddy, or even just propping up the club on your own finances (as a shareholder perhaps, or at least as a stakeholder) isn't a direction that it seems SI want to go down, and with good reason. Few players and managers in reality have the money available to do such, prefering to be extravagant and extrovert when they have the chance, so I think including such a feature would delve into areas of private life that the game should be well avoiding. While long-term career managers may see a benefit, I think overwhelmingly such a feature would be used in a wholly unrealistic manner. I'm 100% behind keeping out of buying houses, cars, and buying stupid things like that, but I still find bankrolling a team from the lower leagues to premiership glory is really appealing. I don't particularly see how it can be implemented, because you'd obviously receive money for your investment, and then be able to put it into another team, thus making it a tycoon game. If SI were able to implement this, they'd have to do so with care, so it doesn't change from a SIM manager game to a SIM tycoon game. Maybe a check box at the start for those who want it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Perfect Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 We've still got lots of things we want to do with the manager role before thinking about potentially expanding any other roles in the game. Even then it's highly unlikely it would be the chairman role.I would much rather see something like director of football and head coach roles being developed like you find in a lot of European countries. I think the Director of Football's role in real life would have to be expanded first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutontown1991 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 If I had a penny..... What you mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevvy Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 It doesn't really happen in real life, so it's not exactly realistic. More realistic would be if the club doesn't have a big enough wage budget and the manager is after a high qality player who'd improve the team alot, and the fans are all in favour of him joining say on a 3 month loan, and they club together and pay that players wage for the time he's there (or make up the difference anyway). Admittedly that only happens lower down the ladder due to lack of funds, but that'd be more realistic than what's proposed in the OP, as it actually happens in real life (not too often, and should only be applied in the game if the fans agree it's a massive signing which will help the club big time). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezequiel_Lavezzi Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Napoli fans got together to pay over 1 billion lira for the Maradona transfer after the Napoli chairman was a bit short. I don't like the idea of a manager being able to spend all of his money on players and his club, because quite frankly that would not happen in real life. Maybe if this is to be introduced, maybe only allow it once a manager has been at the club for over a decade or is on the legends list. This would mean that you are basically loyal and part of the club and it would not be that far fetched for you to help the club you love. (or only allow it for the club you support.) I would hate to see a new manager with no history at a club (but a wealthy manager) to move to a club and invest millions of his own money days in. That is very unrealistic. However I wouldn't mind seeing fans helping out on very rare occasions to push the club along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidmonkey Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 im not a fan of this idea but to those who say it never happens and is unrealistic two i can think of Niall Quinn Barry Fry it does happen rarely though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lam Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Totally agree with this idea. The problem the game has at the moment is they say "You have been offered a contract at £1,299 a week" and you just think, "So??" I'd slap myself silly for offering myself that amount!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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