Supermercado Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Instead of specific phrases in an order from "severe anger" to "extreme praise" as we have now I'd like to see a new system in future versions. I think instead of trying to describe your performances in a one line phrase it would be more helpful to be able to pick from a list of elements and have the game generate the reactions that way. For instance it could go; TONE - Angry/Negative/Neutral/Positive/Delighted. POSITIVES - This could be standard items like "number of chances", "high passing percentage" etc.. Check as many as you like. CONCERNS - "Too many fouls", "not enough shots", "poor defending" etc.. NEXT GAME - What you want to drum into them to get right the next week. Then the elements could interact. For instance if you were Angry but still had positives it would have a different reaction amongst the squad than being delighted but not telling them why. You could still do one liners to the players, but an overall team talk could be made up this way. That would allow you to target specific areas instead of the overall approach now which I find a bit disappointing. There are times when my side has dominated but not got the result, and instead of just telling them that I'm disappointed overall I'd like to target it and say that I'm happy with certain aspects of the performance. I know there's the 'sympathise' option but that's the most wishy washy concept ever! The same concept could go for building answers for press conferences in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev147 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Yeah this has potential and the current team talks are not good enough as I always find myself saying I dont really want to say any of the above becasue it does not fit. It needs work but the team taks do need changing to give a lot more options and more realistic onces that mean a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanson Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Whatever happened to my favourite from FM09, the 'you can make the difference' option. I loved it, if one of my stars was playing pretty average and we were drawing or losing at half time out came the old 'you can make a difference' individual talk to try and motivate him. Don't know why they took it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reli515 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Pretty sure it's still in there. I've seen it a few times I believe, though it doesn't seem to pop up as often as in 09. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermercado Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 Having just copped a 93rd minute equaliser I'd love a FOR GODS SAKE WHY DON'T YOU PLAY SAFER WHEN I TELL YOU TO... but you were pretty good for the rest of the game button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyl2u Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Instead of specific phrases in an order from "severe anger" to "extreme praise" as we have now I'd like to see a new system in future versions.I think instead of trying to describe your performances in a one line phrase it would be more helpful to be able to pick from a list of elements and have the game generate the reactions that way. For instance it could go; TONE - Angry/Negative/Neutral/Positive/Delighted. POSITIVES - This could be standard items like "number of chances", "high passing percentage" etc.. Check as many as you like. CONCERNS - "Too many fouls", "not enough shots", "poor defending" etc.. NEXT GAME - What you want to drum into them to get right the next week. Then the elements could interact. For instance if you were Angry but still had positives it would have a different reaction amongst the squad than being delighted but not telling them why. You could still do one liners to the players, but an overall team talk could be made up this way. That would allow you to target specific areas instead of the overall approach now which I find a bit disappointing. There are times when my side has dominated but not got the result, and instead of just telling them that I'm disappointed overall I'd like to target it and say that I'm happy with certain aspects of the performance. I know there's the 'sympathise' option but that's the most wishy washy concept ever! The same concept could go for building answers for press conferences in the future. I love this idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dire Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Great idea the team talk in my opinion is the main fault in this years game. It seems that you never quite get the desired effect. Even when you say "Enjoy the rest of the game" players still play neverously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paganizer Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I'd be happy if this was taken out completely. Seems to me the weight of teamtalks is far too high, making it more about choosing something to say (let's flip a coin) rather than playerskill and tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis_D Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I think in it's early stages this is a fantastic idea. I'm sure the good people at SI could take it and improve upon it aswell. Gets the from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis_D Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I wouldn't want the 'Next Game' talk to appear until fulltime though. It shouldn't be included in a pre-match or half-time team talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Would certainly make Teamtalks a bit more enjoyable and perhaps useful. Very good idea in principle. Personally even if this was introduced I'd like it as an option because as Paganizer suggests it'd 50/50 as to whether anything you say has the desired effect. I can't see how having the option to have or not to have Teamtalks or Press Conferences would spoil peoples enjoyment of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakobx Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Personally i dont see the point of team talks. You are going to be happy with players that played good and angry at those that played like ****. Its common sense. The game should just pretend we did that. The rest of the things real managers do during the half time is tactics related and we can already tweak those if we want. Perhaps a way to completely remove the option from the game should be added for those of us who dont want it. No team talks feature and no team talks related effects. Currently we can do it ourselves which is beyond boring or leave it to the ass man which is a gamble. I should win or lose based on my tactics and my team and not based on a one liner selected during the half time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutontown1991 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Personally i dont see the point of team talks. You are going to be happy with players that played good and angry at those that played like ****. Its common sense. The game should just pretend we did that. The rest of the things real managers do during the half time is tactics related and we can already tweak those if we want. Perhaps a way to completely remove the option from the game should be added for those of us who dont want it. No team talks feature and no team talks related effects. Currently we can do it ourselves which is beyond boring or leave it to the ass man which is a gamble. I should win or lose based on my tactics and my team and not based on a one liner selected during the half time. Excellent point imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezequiel_Lavezzi Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Yeh I would prefer there to be no team talks or a better way to implement it. I would also vouch for the effects of morale/team talks to be lessened. Its just outrageous what a wrong team talk can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I must say that I really like the OP. It is a fantastic idea and could take the Team Talks to the next level. Team Talks are a vital part of the game IRL too. Look at Arsenal against Liverpool. Vermaelan revealed to BBC sport that it was his angry half time talk that turned the game around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby_McDonald Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Very good suggestion Mercado. I hope SI look into the feasibility of including something like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Instead of specific phrases in an order from "severe anger" to "extreme praise" as we have now I'd like to see a new system in future versions.I think instead of trying to describe your performances in a one line phrase it would be more helpful to be able to pick from a list of elements and have the game generate the reactions that way. For instance it could go; TONE - Angry/Negative/Neutral/Positive/Delighted. POSITIVES - This could be standard items like "number of chances", "high passing percentage" etc.. Check as many as you like. CONCERNS - "Too many fouls", "not enough shots", "poor defending" etc.. NEXT GAME - What you want to drum into them to get right the next week. Then the elements could interact. For instance if you were Angry but still had positives it would have a different reaction amongst the squad than being delighted but not telling them why. You could still do one liners to the players, but an overall team talk could be made up this way. That would allow you to target specific areas instead of the overall approach now which I find a bit disappointing. There are times when my side has dominated but not got the result, and instead of just telling them that I'm disappointed overall I'd like to target it and say that I'm happy with certain aspects of the performance. I know there's the 'sympathise' option but that's the most wishy washy concept ever! The same concept could go for building answers for press conferences in the future. Great post, well said! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinsinaty Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I dont like, there would be too many clicks when we already have a lot. Imo the best would be to chose in preference page what we want : detailed (OP's idea), basic (current system) or none (at all). And the same (preference settings) for many other things (like press conference) and like it is already done for some of the new features (eg the new vs classic tactics, though it doesnt appear in preference but in the tactic page). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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