Deep Lying Playmaker Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Ok I'm on my second, huge loss of form of the season with Blackburn, the first one I identified as playing a counter attacking tactic in the wrong circumstances and playing "standard" seemed to rectify the situation. My problems this time seem to stem from the striker (I play 1 up) who has just stopped scoring, I haven't scored in 5 games. I've done everything I can think of to give my main striker the confidence to play. Despite my efforts several ratings of 5 or lower forced me to drop him, unfortunately the guys who came in are doing just as badly. My team are creating a decent amount of chances, despite the fact I'm playing a Bolton type tactic, it's just my strikers are having a bit of a crisis. Other than the things I've already done is there anything that can be done to improve just this one area of the team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Lying Playmaker Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Fantastic! Striker form has spread through the whole team now in the space of 2 games. No ccc, no shots on target and a grand total of 5 shots. In my experience from previous saves I'd be lucky to win a corner now for the rest of the season! I'm totally out of idea's, anyone had any success with one striker or should I change to 2, or possibly 3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Changes are needed, this happens IRL. Just because you have a good tactic doesnt mean it will always work, I have a REALLY good one that I only use against the superior teams, in my league thats about 10 games a season out of around 50. The rest I usually play more attacking as I can often carve our a 2-0 or 2-1 that way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Lying Playmaker Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 I wouldn't say I have a REALLY good tactic, and I don't expect it to work all the time, I'm just trying to get an idea as to what's going wrong as the tactics I do use seems to have stopped working for me. Any Idea's folks? Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford_Canary Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 This is my problem with FM10 overall. I know others have had no such difficulties, but I am virtually guarenteed to experience at least one of these death spirals per season (not just a rough patch, as the OP nicely puts it, unlikely to win a corner let alone a match). I haven't been able to find a solution as yet - I'm sure you don't want to hear 'just wait and hope that 10.2.0 is better' - generally tinkering with tactics just makes this worse by getting away from what worked to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordieboy52 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I am pretty pleased with my tactic; it has worked really well for me in the 3 career games i have had (Newcastle, Notts County and Genoa) I play 1 up and my forwards can't stop scoring. If you tell me how to upload I will do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiovascular Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I had this happen with Villa. Ended second season 4th place, no edit to my tactic and when the second season begins, all hell breaks lose and we can't win for crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Lying Playmaker Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 I ain't blaming the game TBH, I'm fairly sure in this particular case something can be done tactically, I just need someone who has broken a couple of these cycles to share some knowledge. C'mon tactical geniuses you know you want to! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordieboy52 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 tbh I haven't felt the need to change tactics that much; I simply buy players that fit in said tactic. Perhaps it is the condition of the players that's effecting their performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squadinho Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Could try playing Very Rigid and reducing creative freedom throughout the team to get back to basics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Lying Playmaker Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Could try playing Very Rigid and reducing creative freedom throughout the team to get back to basics. "Very rigid" is part of the tactic I'm using as it closely resembles Allardice era Bolton. Also regarding player condition I don't tend to play anyone under 85%, so can't see it being that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlp071 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 "Very rigid" is part of the tactic I'm using as it closely resembles Allardice era Bolton. Also regarding player condition I don't tend to play anyone under 85%, so can't see it being that. Try moving down to rigid(i found it much more efficient for me) and changing the direction from where you are mainly attacking. I am assuming that because your ST was quite successful ,other side is playing more narrow, deeper and paying extra attention to him. Also, trying to lure them out would help.If you are already doing that,try to push up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis_D Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 "Very rigid" is part of the tactic I'm using as it closely resembles Allardice era Bolton. Also regarding player condition I don't tend to play anyone under 85%, so can't see it being that. 85%?! Bloody hell, I don't play anyone under 95% unless it's a huge game or I have got no-one else to play. Even if it's a massive game I would never start someone less than 90% fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Lying Playmaker Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Try moving down to rigid(i found it much more efficient for me) and changing the direction from where you are mainly attacking. I am assuming that because your ST was quite successful ,other side is playing more narrow, deeper and paying extra attention to him.Also, trying to lure them out would help.If you are already doing that,try to push up. Even if they are paying more attention to him, he's 19 for heading and TM supply is to head, so he should still win more headers than the defenders generally speaking. As for them playing more narrow, that's the thing, teams who come to my ground, which is huge, seem to play wider if anything, which shouldn't work for them that often because that's my teams speciality. Away from home I always adapt to the opposition/pitch/conditions with some success in the beginning. It seems the AI can adapt to your tactics even when you alter them for each game now! Seriously how can it do that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalboy Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 The form drop has happened to me in every season I've played of FM2010. Losing or drawing for a good 6-7 games, despite dominating up till that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlp071 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Even if they are paying more attention to him, he's 19 for heading and TM supply is to head, so he should still win more headers than the defenders generally speaking. As for them playing more narrow, that's the thing, teams who come to my ground, which is huge, seem to play wider if anything, which shouldn't work for them that often because that's my teams speciality.Away from home I always adapt to the opposition/pitch/conditions with some success in the beginning. It seems the AI can adapt to your tactics even when you alter them for each game now! Seriously how can it do that! I had same issue with struggling for couple of matches, while i was trying to clinch EPL tile (needed 4 points out of 4 matches).After i lost to Wigan due to same symptoms that you had i switched to rigid defensive 442 (from rigid standard) with high closing down, cautious tackling and more direct passing (in addition to no creativity and roaming). I tweaked that as necessary with TI's and won last 5 matches easily, 1 being ECC final(3:0) and another FA cup final (4:0).In total, i won 5:1, 4:0 and 3:0, all while playing defensive.So AI does push through middle (actually extremely narrow in the middle with wingers hugging touchline), even though it has appearance of going all wide.I am assuming that it's one of the "special" AI tactics that SI has in game. And if you need to keep result safe for last 10 minutes i can give you my self made shutdown tactic that i am using since FM'05. I never conceded goal in 120+ (EPL and higher) matches that i played with FM 10, and scored several on counters with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teej9 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I have these issues as well and what I have done is create another formation to sit in the same general tactic. Just try and change the look not the intent. Now, that said I usually have the issue of my defence going to hell, so my change is from a 442 to 4132. A troubled attack might be a bit trickier. Maybe try a simple switch to put two upfront, or someone in the hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freindly lemon Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Strikes thinking that they can't get dropped but when you do the become good again:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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