Wijnand fens Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Hi I start a game with Thurrock BSS media prediction 22th In my first season I finished 3rd!! (amazing result I think) I had one problem, almost all my players don't want a new contract. So for the second season I ust to rebuild the squad. No money and less wage budget. I found very old dutch players with very good stats Here is my team (look at the ages) The old players are very good, only physical could be better Pieren: And Kammeron I recommend people who want to manage a lower legue team to add all the dutch players. How the gonna do it this season? the first match I won with 3-0 against lewis. I let you know more results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickballz Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 What are their wages? Are you sure your club can afford all these old dutch has-beens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardog Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Looking at that last screenshot is 17.5K in euros a year so thats 1.4 per month and that makes that player bang on 354 per weeks. Actually working this out that seems a rather lot, i dont know the exchange rate but thats alot of one player at that level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 Looking at that last screenshot is 17.5K in euros a year so thats 1.4 per month and that makes that player bang on 354 per weeks. Actually working this out that seems a rather lot, i dont know the exchange rate but thats alot of one player at that level I'm surprised as well. Second match 2-2 away Maybe the physical would be a problem when we had more matches in one week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickballz Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Absolutely, and the other guy is on 20k. Can anyone else see a flaw in his master plan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 Looking at that last screenshot is 17.5K in euros a year so thats 1.4 per month and that makes that player bang on 354 per weeks. Actually working this out that seems a rather lot, i dont know the exchange rate but thats alot of one player at that level yes, after the first season I had only 5 players in my squad and so a lot of wagebudget. And maybe the wanna come to Thurrock, because I'm a dutch manager with international experience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardog Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 i wasnt saying they didnt wana come the obviously did. (he has a gun people lol) Just jokin. great finds but just a little to pricey, if they do get you up i imagine youll struggle to re-build a second time because of weakened finances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickballz Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 No one is accusing you of cheating. I just find it quite amusing that you do that. I'm sure you will win the league and get promoted, but at the end of the day that is down to your ability to attract these old duffers because of your international experience. It would obviously be much more realistic and more of a challenge if you started as an inexperienced manager as befits the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machetero Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Good players, but should be supported with a chair on the field - very weak physical stats. I played lower English and Ukrainian leagues and find it better to have young and fast guys rather than strong and slow. In the end speed wins) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 No one is accusing you of cheating. I just find it quite amusing that you do that.I'm sure you will win the league and get promoted, but at the end of the day that is down to your ability to attract these old duffers because of your international experience. It would obviously be much more realistic and more of a challenge if you started as an inexperienced manager as befits the league. ok maybe you are right, but Thurrock is with any reputation a big challenge!! Physical is a problem at halftime my team have 72% condition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Rock Stars Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 i think there's a bit of a bug with players declining as they age, where their physical stats go down so fast that their technical attributes have to rise in order to compensate. i mean, i've no idea how good milko pieren is or ever was, but i'm pretty sure he doesn't dribble like messi and cross like beckham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickballz Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I don't think it's a bug as such because they know it happens but have their reason to make it like that, but I agree it makes managing in lower leagues very frustrating. My local team plays twice a week and the players seem to mange fine but in this game they end up crippled if they play three games on the trot. I've been saying for ages that stamina shouldn't be averaged with the other physical stats because it just ruins the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommmm Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 They are slow but their natural fitness and stamina aren't the worst ever and the other stats are very good, I mean 20 crossing and dribbling in the BSS is crazy and I bet you'll score a few from corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Technically decent, but poor physical stats, and Id have thought youd need those in lower league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Rock Stars Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I don't think it's a bug as such because they know it happens but have their reason to make it like that, but I agree it makes managing in lower leagues very frustrating.My local team plays twice a week and the players seem to mange fine but in this game they end up crippled if they play three games on the trot. I've been saying for ages that stamina shouldn't be averaged with the other physical stats because it just ruins the game. surely it's a bug if players are ending up with world class attributes that they shouldn't have? i saw a french lower league striker's finishing rise from 13 (in the editor) to 19 as he aged - i think it's because the physical stats fall faster than the ca does, and so the spare ability gets allocated to technical (and possibly mental) attributes i'm sure it'll be patched out at some point, they've made an effort to make players age more realistically in fm10 but somewhere along the line it's gone a little wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickballz Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 surely it's a bug if players are ending up with world class attributes that they shouldn't have?i saw a french lower league striker's finishing rise from 13 (in the editor) to 19 as he aged - i think it's because the physical stats fall faster than the ca does, and so the spare ability gets allocated to technical (and possibly mental) attributes i'm sure it'll be patched out at some point, they've made an effort to make players age more realistically in fm10 but somewhere along the line it's gone a little wrong I've never seen anything like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 Pieren had in FM08 FM09 and now in fm10 amazing stats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Rock Stars Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I've never seen anything like that. in my long term game i've seen it happen a fair bit in the lower leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 ok maybe you are right, but Thurrock is with any reputation a big challenge!!Physical is a problem at halftime my team have 72% condition To be fair, condition is always a problem at that level. You can easily go into games where your average condition of your team is in the mid-80% region. Old players aren't bad at all, as long as you get them to stand still. I remember some of my older players with Long Shots >17 and Off The Ball >17, which tends to put them in silly positions to bend one in. And as long as you can protect them with a bit of pace from other players, it can actually work out quite well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 It doesn't work!!! al my players are 50 % at the 70th minute, I lose al the matches in the last 20 minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickballz Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 You should set them to not close down and play at a lower tempo. They might last a bit longer that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickballz Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 ...and your 38 year old has a work rate of 17 with stamina 12 - that's not a good combination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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