Indi75 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 aw.. reminds me of when Igor Biscan left Liverpool. Cannot believe the fans are peeved at me for selling this monster. Anyone else gotten into trouble for selling someone useless? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner83 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I had the opposite. Sold Dzeko after a massive offer from Real Madrid and i seriously thought i would get lynched as he had been my top scorer, fans player of year, numerous MOTM awards, Player of Month, Player of year. Yet i got rid and my board says the fans see it as a good thing, yet i let go some poor mans Heskey and the fans have babies about it so i have no idea how this thing works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Guy! Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I got destroyed over a few players. Shaun Barker, Gary Hooper, Rob Hulse and a couple others. Apparently they still had something to offer. I think Hoopers 40 hour goal drought spoke for itself! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic7 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I had a player who stayed with me for a great deal of time and eventually became very slow due to his age. I released him at the end of his contract thinking that the fans would respect this, only to have them say it was an abberation even though the rest of the squad could more than handle his departure. I do suppose that the important part to remember is this isn't the view of the board, but of the fans. You will always get fans who are attached to players and I could maybe see a bit of dissapointment, but aberation? Very strong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I think this ties in with confidence issues from the board, and needs to be remedied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCisHere Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I let Mikael Silvestre leave after a season with Arsenal on FM10, he only played 13 games all season, and 11 of those were as a substitute late in games. Needless to say the fans regard it as an aberration Needless to say I think they are wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner83 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Am just wondering whether it could be linked towards the average rating the player has. So even if a player plays 50 games and has an average rating of lets say 6.98 but another player has only played about 30 games but has an average rating of 7.60 but stats wise is the poorer of the two players would the fans be more unhappy seeing the guy with the highest average leave than seeing the guy with a lower average? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Guy! Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Am just wondering whether it could be linked towards the average rating the player has. So even if a player plays 50 games and has an average rating of lets say 6.98 but another player has only played about 30 games but has an average rating of 7.60 but stats wise is the poorer of the two players would the fans be more unhappy seeing the guy with the highest average leave than seeing the guy with a lower average? Gary Hooper average an epic: 6.63 in his last season for me... Oh yeah! I can see where they were coming from! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
invy Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I have the same pronlem in Energie Cottbus. I sold some very low potential kid, even for my team, and in my 2nd season after I got promoted from D2 fans are still talking that aberration nonsense. Shouldnt they forget after 1 season.. Should be fixed IMHO, it affects job stability. not too much but its annoying. This happens with some other nonamers also, Doga Erman, Robert Rudnik etc.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oypus Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I sold a 34 year old Juanito. (At. Madrid defender.) His physical stats had dropped significantly, he wasn't playing, and all of my coaches thought he was useless. I got a solid 2.5m, and this is an aberration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Guy! Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Then again, it's better to hear them complain about something like that rather than some toss like: "We are dissapointed with your 1-1 draw with Manchester United" ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCisHere Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I took some screenshots, the first is the matches he played for me during that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic7 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I would get rid of him so fast I would drive Silvestre to his next club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jirki88 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I would get rid of him so fast I would drive Silvestre to his next club QFT. I'd never trust Silvestre enough to play him in any team above Blue Square. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 Kyrgiakos, I should mention, had a rating for the season of 8.11 having only played in meaningless Carling Cup, CL, FA Cup games where I wanted to rest two of the other 3. Not to mention, he had a £3.5m release fee so it's not like I could have kpt him if I wanted to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Its happened to me with Ryan Taylor. Those 3 starts and 10 sub appearances in 3 seasons must have really tugged at the fans heart-strings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan_sacfc Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 QFT. I'd never trust Silvestre enough to play him in any team above Blue Square. Oi! Don't insult Blue Square Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I let Mikael Silvestre leave after a season with Arsenal on FM10, he only played 9 games all season, and 7 of those were as a substitute late in games.Needless to say the fans regard it as an aberration Needless to say I think they are wrong same thing here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly_flyer10 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Ive just had to sell 3 players because they all wanted to leave and kept moaning every 3 weeks, no doubt the fans and board will be ****ed off at me even though they were like that when i arrived. The players confidence thing is stupid, they moan about someone leaving with a rating of 6.1 or someone whos 34 and 4th choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiggyDempsey Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 SI need to tweak the fickleness of the fans tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yerug Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Sold Iaquinta, got blessings from the fans who told me it was good to see him go. Sold Sebastian Giovinco and Alexander Manninger, who couldn't even run straight sometimes, and I became a shooting target. I do however simply choose to absolutely ignore these things, as it's not always as it should be in real football world as well. And its we that are the manager, not the fans. What we do, is for the best, so their opinion can blow away with the wind. It's all part of my big and evil plan whatsoever ^,..,^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev147 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Yeah sold three ageing reserve players and it was an aberration each time! Needs looking at SI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicobile Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Sold Iaquinta, got blessings from the fans who told me it was good to see him go.Sold Sebastian Giovinco and Alexander Manninger, who couldn't even run straight sometimes, and I became a shooting target. I do however simply choose to absolutely ignore these things, as it's not always as it should be in real football world as well. And its we that are the manager, not the fans. What we do, is for the best, so their opinion can blow away with the wind. It's all part of my big and evil plan whatsoever ^,..,^ You sold giovinco??? that was a bad piece of bussiness of your part Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swirlypop69 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 The fans are a joke, yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2772 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I agree that this needs to be looked at as a bug, or maybe we could get some official explanation as to why the fans react so strongly for odd reasons. I'm sure it has something to do that the player is a favorite of the club, but this shouldnt override common sense. My best example: Season five with Slavia Praha - Zdeněk Šenkeřík is now 32 or 33 years old. For those that dont follow the Czech league, he's a solid player to start the game for this level. However, during his last season with the club he made two(!) substitute appearances, both in the early rounds of the league cup against non-league teams. He is 8th on my striker depth chart, behind several youth players. His playing abilities arent bad overall, certainly good enough for a role player on a bad Gambrinus league team, but no where near good enough for a team that plays in Europe. I've suggested he look into coaching, hoping that once this last contract ends I can offer him a coaching deal. No dice- his contract is due for renewal, and he wants a raise! Of course I dont re-sign him, and despite a good record as manager the fans feel its a mistake to let this player go?! What do you guys think? What else could be done, other than pay him even more to not play for a year or two until his pace is 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 Equally this is an issue when you snap up some hot 16yo for a £700k compensation fee - the fans are unhappy at the high transfer fee!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 SI need to tweak the fickleness of the fans tbh Definitely. I think if you sell a player and the fans are unhappy, they should become happier about the sale if the player does poorly at their new club. At the moment it doesn't take that into account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiggyDempsey Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Definitely. I think if you sell a player and the fans are unhappy, they should become happier about the sale if the player does poorly at their new club. At the moment it doesn't take that into account. They only seem to be happy if there is a clause included or if the player is woefully out of his depth which isnt good enough. I could understand if it was a section but the majority of fans?? I dont think so especially when its a complete plonker of a player that wanted gone IRL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I had the same thing happen when i sold Kyrgiakos. Its really weird considering we he was only there for one season and didn't perform well enough to be getting regular games for the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twizted_seed Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I had a player, Christophe berra, Tierry(hand) in a transfer request. Sold him to ManUre for 17m. Season later I am still getting reports about him coming back to molyneux and how tthe fans consider him leaving an aboration. He was only rated 7.5m when i sold him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimoz Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 This is funny, I put Cristiano Ronaldo in my lowly St Albans side via the editor. I kept him their for a season and he scored 124 goals. We were a very poor club financially and had no transfer budget or any budget as a matter of fact. So I decided to sell him for 90 Million pounds. I thought, great now I will get some cash to splash. At the start of the new season they gave me a very small budget out of the 90 mill and in my review it said that it was an abberation that I let him leave the club.....HELLO!!!!! 90 Million Pounds Anyone!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon69 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Frankly I just ignore the fans comments as they are complete gonads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gustieguy06 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 As Valerenga, I had the board sell my best striker out from under me halfway through the season (he had like 17 goals in 15 games), then each month criticize me for letting him go (disappointed with the departure or something like that). Lame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzrab Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 In my Ac Milan save i decided to get rid of all the overage and grossly overpaid legends of the past. So off go Nesta, seedorf, Dida and Ambrosini and a few others i can't remember. All of them were around 33/34 and on 96k P/W each. Naturally i knew the fans wouldn't be too happy about ;losing all these icons and legends of the club but as i ignore this area most of the time i wasn't bothered. The thing is it's now been something like 18 months since i sold them but the fans still have it as a poor peice of buissiness in the confidence section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCisHere Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Well you sold Ambrosini...you deserve it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzrab Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Well you sold Ambrosini...you deserve it... 10 million for a 32/33 Y/O midfielder was to good to pass up. interestingly when i offered him out only Sunderland came up with the hard cash Barca, Real, Man U wanted to loan him. I agreed to everyone and he chose Sunderland much to my surprise and delight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly_flyer10 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Oh and the annoying thing is they go on about it for a year or so. If you sell a reserve player, half the fans dont even know who he is and the other half forget after the next win. Were Man U fans going on about Fergie selling Ronaldo a year later? No and no fans would be moaning at things like that or a loss 4 months ago when youre on a 8 game winning streak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 I hate my fans being disappointed when my kids draw in a CL dead-rubber against some lowly 4 seed when we qualified in the first 4 games. It's a run out, but the game doesn't seem to notice your team selection, just assumes you are still 20-1 favourites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petru Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 it's really annoying. i sold a nobody to a third division team for 1000 euro (cause nobody would pay more than that). he never even got near my first team squad... yet the fans kept complaining about him leaving for half a year. i also checked how he was doing at his new team. his average rating was 5.8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
starry Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 the fans in my game are disappointed with every single player i sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Y P Z Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Fans are haters, plain and simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreTheShadow Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I've had a few of these at Rosenborg in the last few years. But I haven't sold any of them. They all left on a free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Well in real life the most vociferous fans are normally a joke! The more sensible ones tend to think more and say less:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazvanRat Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Yeah, I do think this needs tweaking. Maybe the fans should come to respect you doubly as much when they see that the clown you've got rid of is not even starting at a club two divisions below you. Otherwise this just seems like a non-working part of the game, making your job harder without really offering much scope for reward. It's also annoying that your transfer satisfaction resets to 50% every season without setting up some kind of base rate; if you've done brilliantly with players in and out, the fans should still be happy about your previous 10 years of work even if you go a summer without buying anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigredletterday Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 It's a particular headache if you're playing as Liverpool. I took over and decided a fire sale was in order. Shipped out Kuyt (the fans thought this was a disapointment), Dossena (the fans were sad to see him leave as they thought he had something to offer), Voronin (the fans were sad to see him leave as they thought he had something to offer), Babel (the fans were disapointed), Cavlieri (again, a disapointment to the fans), and ten reserve players (again, the fans felt most of these talentless halfwits had something to offer the club). I then bought Kone to play pfront for £4m, played him all season, and though he did ok, wasn't much more than an average prem striker, so shipped him out to buy Dzeko, getting £8m for him, and the fans thought this was an aberation and banged on about it all season long. I quite like the option, but surely some realism is in order - if Liverpool shipped out Dossena, Babel, and Voronin this January the fans would queue up to buy them a one way ticket to anywhere, and if Benitez managed to make more than £19.99 for the lot of them fans woudl think he'd done well..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmgod2 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I've been shipping out crap youngsters and complete deadwood like Quashie for decent money and the fans are upset? What, I would rather see Steve Wonder play for me than some of the players I have got ridden of, absolute joke, it ruins it as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave.C43 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I had this,at the end of a quadruple winning season at Arsenal,when I sold Jay Simpson to QPR for 750k + clauses as he had 1 year left on his contract & wouldn,t figure in the first team until they were a League One side! Im tempted to set the tactics to 2-4-4,go on holiday & let em suffer,serve the moaning gits right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 The fans are indeed way too often unhappy about crap players leaving My fans at Newcastle are missing Rudi Skacel who was never more than a back-up and he was sold after I signed Demba Ba to replace the first option Jonas for that position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdJames Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 My fans were chuffed to bits at me getting £30m for World Player of the Year (8.12) Andrey Arshavin to Barcelona yet they were livid with me for selling Alex Song (6.45) to Aston Villa for £14m both after the first season....definitely needs addressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coen Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 My fans apparently think that me getting rid of some 18 year old ex youth team player who wouldn't have got close to playing in the reserves, let alone the first team, is an aberration. I suppose his fantastic performances in the Blue Square Premier (av rating - 6.4) since he left must be making them wish he was still at the club as we push for promotion out of the Championship! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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