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andysafc
25-11-2009, 18:08
I've seen plenty of threads about things that happen far to often in FM, so i was thinking of things that don't happen so much if at all.

My examples...
Long Shots: I don't mean the general long shots that you see plenty. What about a long shot just past the half way line when the keeper is off his line?

Penaltys seem to come from fouls, have you seen a hand ball?

Not saying these things never happen, just i haven't seen them.
What can you think of that doesn't happen very often in FM?

tonif
25-11-2009, 18:14
Players being booked for time wasting - never happens and should be implemented imo.

Dicko99
25-11-2009, 18:18
in fm10 i never see players go round the keeper even when trained too

Ty
25-11-2009, 18:18
Pitch Invasion/Streaker/Mascot Fight. ;)

Leonrampante
25-11-2009, 18:22
I've seen plenty of threads about things that happen far to often in FM, so i was thinking of things that don't happen so much if at all.

My examples...
Long Shots: I don't mean the general long shots that you see plenty. What about a long shot just past the half way line when the keeper is off his line?

Penaltys seem to come from fouls, have you seen a hand ball?

Not saying these things never happen, just i haven't seen them.
What can you think of that doesn't happen very often in FM?

I've seen at least two penalties from handballing (the commentators said so at least, followed by furious protesting of course!)
Long shots with the keeper off his place I've seen as well, just don't recall any from behind the half line.

Fancy Gaffot
25-11-2009, 18:23
Penaltys seem to come from fouls, have you seen a hand ball?

I'm in 2015 and I had 1 penalty after opponent player's handball. Not too much, eh?

Used to happen in previous games, but never happened to me in FM 2010 - players shoving or kicking someone during game breaks.

georgeysamaras
25-11-2009, 18:25
in fm10 i never see players go round the keeper even when trained too

or try and lob the keeper waiting to see this happen

Dicko99
25-11-2009, 18:27
or try and lob the keeper waiting to see this happen

yes i never see them lob either, they just shoot straight at the keeper

DGN
25-11-2009, 18:30
Opposition goalkeeper scored from mid-way in his own half!

Big boot and one bounce over my goalies head..

Playing as AFC Wimbledon and we were "out Wimbledon'd"!!

Leonrampante
25-11-2009, 18:34
I've seen plenty of threads about things that happen far to often in FM, so i was thinking of things that don't happen so much if at all.

My examples...
Long Shots: I don't mean the general long shots that you see plenty. What about a long shot just past the half way line when the keeper is off his line?

Penaltys seem to come from fouls, have you seen a hand ball?

Not saying these things never happen, just i haven't seen them.
What can you think of that doesn't happen very often in FM?

I've seen at least two penalties from handballing (the commentators said so at least, followed by furious protesting of course!)
Long shots with the keeper off his place I've seen as well, just don't recall any from behind the half line.

BrianQuinn
25-11-2009, 18:36
or try and lob the keeper waiting to see this happen

Iv seen this once so far in FM10 , funnily enough it was Samaras that scored it :D

andysafc
25-11-2009, 18:42
Goals from deflection, keeper diving wrong way.

Goal being scored after deflecting off a red beach ball.

andysafc
25-11-2009, 18:45
Overhead kick

Jonzii
25-11-2009, 18:45
Seen quite a few lobs over the keeper in my game, mostly against me I must admit. Never seen anyone properly go round the keeper though...I have seen the commentary say that player x takes it round the keeper but he doesn't really, just goes a bit to the side and slides it under the keeper.

Jonzii
25-11-2009, 18:48
Goals from deflection, keeper diving wrong way.

Goal being scored after deflecting off a red beach ball.

Had a few deflected goals too in my game. One of them just deflected as my keeper was going one way and he even tried to change direction to get to it.. without success.

georgeysamaras
25-11-2009, 18:52
Iv seen this once so far in FM10 , funnily enough it was Samaras that scored it :D

In fairness who else would you expect it from!:p

andysafc
25-11-2009, 18:54
diving headers

rinso
25-11-2009, 19:32
Seen a few diving headers, and handballs. Also had one of my team score from just insode the opposition half after their 'keeper had come up for a corner and they lost it....

Not seen > booking for time-wasting, back-heels, bicycle/overhead kicks...

Wonky
25-11-2009, 19:41
I've seen plenty of threads about things that happen far to often in FM, so i was thinking of things that don't happen so much if at all.

My examples...
Long Shots: I don't mean the general long shots that you see plenty. What about a long shot just past the half way line when the keeper is off his line?

Penaltys seem to come from fouls, have you seen a hand ball?

Not saying these things never happen, just i haven't seen them.
What can you think of that doesn't happen very often in FM?

I've had a hand ball in my game.

I've not seen any tricks. I guess the animations aren't there yet.

Mystere1666
26-11-2009, 00:00
Pretty much anything mentioned here until now I did see, even overhead kicks! It would be a bit silly tho, let's be honest here, if you would see that sort of stuff every game.

The only thing I cannot recall is the timewasting bookings but I would not be suprised if that is also in. You can argue about if the match engine is good or bad but one thing I have to give em credit for is that even after a long time I see or read stuff I didn't expect or never seen before and quite frankly I am happy that a lot of stuff is that rare.

Tez01979
26-11-2009, 00:10
I've seen, well what seemingly looked like back heels a few times - almost scored with one as well. I've also scored with a diving header and have saw one (again looked like) near overhead kick

The strange thing is i'm playing as FC United in the NPP:)

rinso
26-11-2009, 00:26
Quick free-kicks too, always wait for everyone to get into position... and I forgot about tricks, haven't seen any in mine at all, and I'n in 2019!!

Shaka Sangoma
26-11-2009, 00:37
Players getting sent directly to gaol without passing GO

Lordarod
26-11-2009, 01:05
I saw back-heels, overhead kicks, lobs, going around the keeper (not partially)
I haven't seen fake runs, quick free kicks or that many tricks. Also I haven't seen a GK score a long free kick.

Mystere1666
26-11-2009, 01:14
Just another thing I thought about, what about getting a yellow or potentially red card yourself if you shout too much at the sideline :D

Would be funny to include sideline shouts about ref interactions, not sure if it is a wise thing for me personally because I tend to talk dirt to them behind my screen :rolleyes:

Lordarod
26-11-2009, 01:23
^^ nice idea. If only we had a text box during the games liike the one we have on interviews.

wardog
26-11-2009, 01:25
Marlon Harewood who i brought to Rangers to replace Lafferty went round the keeper. Although i dont think he ment it he just got infront of the keeper from a long ball it hit his skin went forward and keeper was trying to get up as he slotted into the net filled with nothing apart from a defender charging back.

phil101
26-11-2009, 01:27
never seen a boking for a celebration of a goal for example taking off a shirt (could be a bit hard with graphics ) bot not even controversial celebrations a la neville or adebeyor

Mystere1666
26-11-2009, 01:30
Or a player with an injury due to fireworks thrown on the pitch? There are so many things that can still be added, but not sure if everything is a great idea...

Edit: Thinking about a firework incident, matches stopped for fan violence or name calling? Just picture looking at a game and suddenly reading: Ref blows for full time and leaves pitch, he had enough of the insulting chants. Following that could be fines or possible matches without supporters.

phil101
26-11-2009, 01:32
Or a player with an injury due to fireworks thrown on the pitch? There are so many things that can still be added, but not sure if everything is a great idea...

never even see the fireworks or flairs not even in italy come on si what are you playing at

Mystere1666
26-11-2009, 01:35
never even see the fireworks or flairs not even in italy come on si what are you playing at

True, or a really foggy pitch due to smoke or just plain weather either!

phil101
26-11-2009, 01:41
never see the ball swerve back on itself due to wind or more swervy (is that a word) balls (god im getting picky now)

Tez01979
26-11-2009, 01:42
You never see manager kicking water bottle on to the pitch - this would be great if there was an option to do this

phil101
26-11-2009, 01:43
one word.



mascots

Mystere1666
26-11-2009, 01:47
Well if we are going that way why not add in a few female supporters to aim the camera at if the match is boring as hell... :p

Would give the "main stand" view a whole new meaning!

rinso
26-11-2009, 01:48
Well if we are going that way why not add in a few female supporters to aim the camera at if the match is boring as hell... :p

the best suggestion by far!! well done! :thup:

phil101
26-11-2009, 01:49
Well if we are going that way why not add in a few female supporters to aim the camera at if the match is boring as hell... :p

Would give the "main stand" view a whole new meaning!

now theres an idea !!!

although if your that desperate open a web page mate .lol

Mystere1666
26-11-2009, 01:51
Thanks :rolleyes: lol

TimSydney
26-11-2009, 01:52
Never seen a player fill in another players position when he is off the field for treatment... A few times my DC has gone off for treatment, leaving a massive hole in the centre of defence only for the oppostion to score a goal from an unmarked striker....

Mystere1666
26-11-2009, 01:57
Thats actually a known issue they are looking into, cannot recall the exact thread but there is a statement about this somewhere.

ViG1980
26-11-2009, 05:24
I am yet to see a missed penalty.

Jolanthustrel
26-11-2009, 05:30
I've seen missed penalties, both sides.

Mystere1666
26-11-2009, 06:12
Yeah I seem to miss the important ones as well. To the one who never seen a missed penalty, never had a penalty shoot out I reckon? Otherwise it would be an endless afair...

Ezequiel_Lavezzi
26-11-2009, 07:45
You get massive pitch celebrations for penalty shoot out wins vs non league sides, but you win the league on the last day of the season and your players just walk off.

I watched my brother win the Europa League, and final whistle went, they just walked off.

Dissapointing.

Macyst
26-11-2009, 09:32
Never seen a pass back then own goal. Or indirect freekick from passing back -> GK grabs the ball.

I also want to see some cup celebration, at least, if not handing out the trophy.

Jimbo51
26-11-2009, 10:30
Interesting to hear everyone's perceptions. I think you don't see much flair in the game, dummies and other such fancy footwork. You don't see players getting physical with each other either, especially when defending corners.

phil101
26-11-2009, 10:52
Never seen a pass back then own goal

oh ive seen that

Drakestone
26-11-2009, 14:05
Overhead kick

I had my first overhead kick last night, didn't score it though. :(

Lordarod
26-11-2009, 16:47
The only penalty I saw missed was taken by David Villa who has 20 in penalty taking :D

edgar555
26-11-2009, 17:47
yes i never see them lob either, they just shoot straight at the keeper

Defoe is a master of the lob in my game.

Misodoctakleidist
26-11-2009, 18:20
One thing you never see in any version of FM is a keeper diving at the feet of an oncoming striker and giving away a penalty.

Wonky
26-11-2009, 21:41
I wonder whether SI will ever implement the seal dribble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYlqql38XkY

Geoff Newman
26-11-2009, 23:22
Retrospective punishment for misconduct on the pitch. E.g. a player elbowing one of the opposition, it not being noticed at the time, but dealt with after the match by the FA.

Managers complaining about the conduct of the opposition. E.g. claiming they were too physical, or were constantly play acting, etc...

Suzie MUFC
27-11-2009, 00:15
yes i never see them lob either, they just shoot straight at the keeper

I saw Torres lob the keeper the first time I played FM10, lovely to watch.

Santa Cruz
27-11-2009, 00:20
A cheating Fenchman juggling the ball into the box and then thowing it to Gallas' head to score.

Actually I'd quite enjoy seeing that.

ziotree
27-11-2009, 03:21
i had something which i have only seen once in all my football manager games.

the keeper came out of his area and hand balled.

the ref gave a freekick and sent him off.

made me smile it did

Rice2cu
27-11-2009, 03:57
Ive never seen a player get into a fight with a team mate in training.
Ive never seen a player get into trouble in a night club.
Ive never seen a player get arrested for drink driving.
Ive never seen wags :mad:

phnompenhandy
27-11-2009, 09:39
Only one poster has hit on the main omission - goalkeepers giving away penalties or getting red or even yellow cards. There's no point in having a substitute goalkeeper because he'll 99.9% sure not be needed.

Death.
27-11-2009, 09:43
Yeah that's what i have been thinking phnompenhandy.

I remember playing FM08 and having my goalkeeper sent off though... in what was an EPIC cup tie with Blyth Spartans. :thup:

But i haven't seen it in FM10 nor, to my memory, in FM09.

kieronbrown73
27-11-2009, 09:48
On the subject of Goalkeepers I have never seen a keeper get injured during the match, again defeating having sub keeper on the bench.

rinso
27-11-2009, 10:17
Have had keeper booked twice, both times for handling outside the area, but not sent off (yet) and I'm into 2020! I think in all the hours (days, weeks, whatever!) i spent on 08, i only managed to get a keeper sent off twice, and that happened to one keeper in the same season.

de_baser
27-11-2009, 13:35
I've played five seasons, and only last night i had my first penalty shootout (against barca in CL Quarter final). It didn't drag on forever, as i've seen other reports go. It was over after 5 penalties from each side, meaning the very last penalty was the only one missed, and that was my player :(

What i did notice, hwoever, and this is something i have yet to see on ANY penalty, is the player missing the goal, blasting wide or over. Never happens. Players very rarely miss penalties, and if they do, it's ALWAYS due to the keeper saving it.

Night clubs happen, btw. Or at least they used to, that "player was seen leaving night club". They should add "with transvestite prostitutes" though, just to add realism.

One thing i like is other personal aspects, like players reacting to their first cap or being dropped from the international squad for a tournament, and so on. Would be cool to expand this to family matters, like player getting married or having a kid, goes to show that a lot of players grow mentally from happenings like that. In addition, it would be awesome if the game actually kept track of players' families, meaning deliberately that their kids would eventually come through your youth ranks and so on.

And regarding youth ranks: regens now just get "dumped" into your U20, with different ages (15, 17, 19) each season. If you save and reload before the "dump", you can see that these players will be completely different on each dump, randomly generated. Would be cool to actually see if you have any good regens "coming up" the ranks from age 10 or so, nothing more than a mere message per season about how your teams of 10-year-olds, 13, 15, etc are doing in various outings, giving you an oppurtunity to compare the quality of "generations". The kids born in 96 have done so much better than those from 97 in comparison, and so on.

GillsMan
27-11-2009, 13:59
I've never seen a goal scored with a handball, or a handball in the run up to the goal. I think more goals should be incorrectly awarded IMO (as opposed to goals being incorrectly chalked off).

I'd also like to see the odd mass brawl with a couple of reds. By mass brawl, I mean the English-style pushing and shoving, as opposed to the Brazilian style mass fight.

ichiboy08
27-11-2009, 14:14
I've yet to have an amateur match that was a goal fest like they are in real life. Let me just tell you all I manage in Asia for a local amateur team in a provincial league, country rep is 200 or 300 (i forgot) but the club rep was 7. The average club rep is actually 5-60 nationally. So some may say this is Sunday league football. If you pick up any local newspaper and look at the results for your local Sunday league they are sometimes very high goal margins - eg; 2-13, 7-1, 11-6, etc..

After three seasons of watching every match of my team I have yet to have a match that is a goal fest (the average goals per match for the league is something like 2 or 3 with is a bit low for a Sunday league), and I would really love to have a match like that!

bigdanio
27-11-2009, 15:05
deflected shots, diving headers, handballs, gk injuries, seen them all

tottenhamfmo7
27-11-2009, 15:07
Pitch Invasion/Streaker/Mascot Fight. ;)

First two would be awesome! :D

Jason Valler
27-11-2009, 15:43
First time crosses would be nice, i have only ever seen one and i'm in 2016.

Bradmonk
27-11-2009, 20:24
Projectiles being thrown at the ref.

Drogba diving.

njc83
27-11-2009, 22:23
Players being booked for time wasting - never happens and should be implemented imo.

YES! Totally agree, time waisting is a pain in the stern.

kildarecountyfc
28-11-2009, 03:28
I saw C.Ronaldo do a bicycle kick against me, the only one....keeper saved it. I think it's good these are few and far between.

See a few backheels and that, I don't think you see much skills etc as the engine is limited, that's fair enough but it would be nice to see some text compliment it e.g. 'Ronaldo uses a wonderful turn of pace/feint to beat defender' and then just have him move past. There are ways around the limitations to make it work well.

The keeper NEVER brings anyone down 1v1, I've never seen anyone try and chip the keeper or go around him a la his PPM.

I think there are some small things that SI could do to improve things, THESE FINER DETAILS are what seperates a game from being good and being great, and guess what, they are all available here on the forum. SI please take the wonderful feedback you are receiving on board and implement what you can.

Lots of good suggestions, good post OP.

kildarecountyfc
28-11-2009, 03:29
YES! Totally agree, time waisting is a pain in the stern.

I've a pain in my face watching players take 60 seconds etc taking a throw in and nothing happening. ARGGGGGGGGGGGH.

Some Guy!
28-11-2009, 04:20
Players being booked for time wasting - never happens and should be implemented imo.

Uh... It was in previous versions. I'm pretty sure I saw it once of this one too.


in fm10 i never see players go round the keeper even when trained too

I've seen it a few times.

Some Guy!
28-11-2009, 04:21
I am yet to see a missed penalty.

Is sure have. There was a run of 4 missed penalties by my side last season... PRICKS!

ViG1980
28-11-2009, 05:47
Yeah I seem to miss the important ones as well. To the one who never seen a missed penalty, never had a penalty shoot out I reckon? Otherwise it would be an endless afair...

Obviously wasn't talking about shootouts...

Saw my first missed pen today. Year 2015.

andysafc
28-11-2009, 10:27
Been some good replies in this thread, THANKS!
Some of the things ARE within the game although rare which is maybe right but there are quite a few good notes about things that are missing so hopefully someone from SI will be monitoring this thread and take those into consideration for the future development of the game.

delboy69
28-11-2009, 10:41
I usually praise a player individually if they have over an 8.5 rating, one time the player I praised went to the press and thanked me for singling him out, think this has only happened once so far for me on FM10

StormenDK
28-11-2009, 10:50
On the subject of Goalkeepers I have never seen a keeper get injured during the match, again defeating having sub keeper on the bench.

I had my keeper get (slightly) injured while taking a free-kick (for off-side). He could continue the match, but he had the little green icon above his head. Since it was a friendly game, I substituted him.

SteveDM
28-11-2009, 11:30
What about players getting injured in the warm up?

Or late fitness tests?

andysafc
28-11-2009, 16:21
Has anyone seen a sliding shot? Where the ball is crossed to the far post and a player slides in and just gets a touch to score/miss.

Ever seen the ball hit the referee?

pelicanstuff
28-11-2009, 17:34
two players charging directly at each other to win a 50:50 for a loose ball in the middle of the park.

buzzer
29-11-2009, 04:35
players kicking the ball away

mistahc
29-11-2009, 14:41
Long Shots: I don't mean the general long shots that you see plenty. What about a long shot just past the half way line when the keeper is off his line?

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=172296

I'm getting them from inside my own half, twice in the same game.

mistahc
29-11-2009, 17:43
also, I've never seen a Robbie Keane or Martins style celebration, it's always the "runs off with one arm aloft" Shearer style.

Danny Dire
29-11-2009, 18:18
or try and lob the keeper waiting to see this happen

I have seen two goals like this.


diving headers

I have seem quite a few but only when my team clear the ball.

Pangaea
29-11-2009, 18:26
I actually saw my striker WAY down the leagues lob the keeper when one-on-one a couple of days ago. Had to fetch my jaw from the floor. Gorgeous goal it was too! :)

I actually think there are too many diving headers. Players tend to do it when it's not natural. IRL it's extremely rare tbh.

BigDam90
29-11-2009, 19:10
Games never Get delayed for what ever reason

Pangaea
29-11-2009, 19:32
Yes they do. I've seen many matches get postponed for waterlogged pitches.

7zige
29-11-2009, 19:49
I've never seen a player die on the pitch...

BigDam90
29-11-2009, 20:02
i mean kick off half an hour later because of fan trouble or that

Misodoctakleidist
29-11-2009, 20:08
i mean kick off half an hour later because of fan trouble or that
I don't think I'd even notice if that did happen.

Scoham
29-11-2009, 20:30
Players from each team both sliding to win the ball.

Pretty much any trick or skill other than an occasional back heel.

Mass brawls like GillsMan said.

A.W rovers til i die
29-11-2009, 21:44
off the ball clashes between players?

j88_ftm
30-11-2009, 15:37
Indirect free kicks inside the area would be pretty cool. I know they aren't massively frequent in real life, but I can think of at least a few games I've attended where there's been one, whereas despite having played many more matches of FM than attended real games, I've never seen one in the game. Thus I assume it doesn't happen, unless anyone has seen otherwise?

Also, players dying or getting sent to jail. I know this sounds pretty awful, but it's not like it's never happened in real life - think Miklos Feher or Marc-Vivien Foe for the former, or Marlon King for the latter. Perhaps there are legal reasons why things like this can't happen in the game...

Wonky
30-11-2009, 17:28
Hitting the ball in the air more than once. Kneeing the ball.

kildarecountyfc
01-12-2009, 12:27
Dying on the pitch? Are you serious?! Get real.

jd1882
01-12-2009, 17:31
well people have died on the pitch for real so.......... im not saying it should be added, imagine having your start striker die, would be funny.

As for of the ball incidents/fights etc i havent seen it on this one but on the old version it definitely happened. I think the commentary was something like players name landed a sweet left hook on gamberini followed by his teammates have to drag him away couldnt believe it. I do thinks its unrealistic how little off the ball incidents occur in game.

Jirki88
01-12-2009, 18:01
Penaltys seem to come from fouls, have you seen a hand ball?

Tbh, I've seen several handballs, just not many that've resulted in penalties. It's mainly one sometimes at mid-pitch and sometimes one in opponents penalty area... Only results in free kick and yellow card usually. But I've seen atleast one penalty due to handballing too. :p


Players being booked for time wasting - never happens and should be implemented imo.

QFT. Even if you set your "Time Wasting" to "Always" you don't ever get booked for it. :|

Kilmarnock
02-12-2009, 00:08
erm...how about.... the game being released without the need for a patch..........?

That would be nice :)

El Payaso
02-12-2009, 00:23
Solid defending like Chelsea has IRL. Last seen such in Fm 08 with patch 8.0.1. Miss those times.

jbutton
05-12-2009, 10:44
Being on a good run then getting smashed 3-0 by aston villa at stamford bridge, yeah that never happens ;)