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RIGGED IMO
25-11-2009, 00:47
I've built a sick team for 4 years and have lots of class players who are 19 or 20 but are in my reserves! I offer them out on loan with 0 wages and 0 fee and NO ONE IS INTERESTED? Surely this is a bug.

Another thing, 5 of my Nigerians I signed have done their time in Belgium but don't have Work Permits because they don't speak BASIC FRENCH. This is an insult to my intelligence and a disgrace. You are telling me as a club I would send my starlings to Belgium and tell them not to learn French, when THEY KNOW they have to learn French to gain the Belgium Passport, what is the point in this it is a total joke and surely a bug.

Brian Shanahan
25-11-2009, 00:52
3 years might not be enough to learn a language. I was taught Irish for 16 years and still cans say more than a cupla focail.

torsportsfan
25-11-2009, 01:00
but your not immersed in Irish are you?

If your in Belgium you will be immersed in French and Flemish

Shaka Sangoma
25-11-2009, 01:02
Yes but learning a language is different to being immersed in it for a period of time, I know of people who have travelled to other countries and been able to at least basically converse in that nation's language in under a month

lcutty
25-11-2009, 01:04
What club are you managing? and do you have any average affilliated clubs where you could send your younger players?

hitemfrank
25-11-2009, 01:07
Maybe they never intended to apply for a Belgian passport so didn't bother learning the language. Maybe sign players from Cote D'Ivoire instead.

CaptainPlanet
25-11-2009, 01:09
The loan thing has carried over from FM09, I hated it and was a big ruiner of the game for me.

RIGGED IMO
25-11-2009, 01:14
im offering players who are worth 3 or 4 million out and no one is interested? no one in the championship, league 1 & 2? (afterall, im not asking them to pay any wages or any fee) and NO ONE IS INTERESTED?

RIDICULOUS>

H Y P Z
25-11-2009, 01:17
Same problem. And if someone IS interested, the stupid player says he has NO INTENTION of going there. Little *******.

CaptainPlanet
25-11-2009, 01:21
IIRC it's to do with wages and squad status.

Sleepydude
25-11-2009, 01:28
Yes, this is quite annoying. I've resorted to using an editor to give myself a few decent feeder clubs in spain and italy, at least my players will go there.

RIGGED IMO
28-10-2010, 23:35
Has this trash been fixed yet??? If not, I won't be buying.

chob
28-10-2010, 23:43
Same problem. And if someone IS interested, the stupid player says he has NO INTENTION of going there. Little *******.

haha, i'm also frustrated when they refuse to go.

ImOnFire15
29-10-2010, 00:18
3 years might not be enough to learn a language. I was taught Irish for 16 years and still cans say more than a cupla focail.
People from Ireland don't speak english?

magicmastermind124
29-10-2010, 00:31
People from Ireland don't speak english?

This is a bad joke right?

Quavis
29-10-2010, 00:38
Has this trash been fixed yet??? If not, I won't be buying.
Nice Attitude. I'm sure SI is currently reading your extremely constructive criticisms, has bumped this to the top of their priority list, and is jumping through hoops to ensure they fix their "trash" to satisfy your every wish and desire.

Edit: On the topic, I don't think there are any major problems with the loan system in FM 2011. Anyone I've tried to loan out I've gotten offers for (even first team regulars). Do players still sometimes reject going out on loan to clubs they consider sub-par in lower divisions? Yes they do. If they feel they will learn nothing during their loan spell, they will let you know. Some players at top flight clubs have this little thing called an ego which can often get in the way of their development. I don't see anything wrong with this.

As far as learning a language (or more than one as your shipping them out to a feeder club in yet another country), I think its realistic that some of them don't bother to learn the language. They have just left everything they knew (sans football), been thrust in a completely different situation than they are used to, in a place they know nothing about, where they don't understand the language, and likely no one else speaks their language. I'd probably find it hard to settle in as well. There are many premier league players that makes tons of money and don't even bother to learn the language. Likewise, many people feel that one of the reasons english players don't do as well overseas is that they don't care about learning the new language and culture.

ImOnFire15
29-10-2010, 02:15
This is a bad joke right?
Everybody in UK don't speak the same language? LOL

Bababui
29-10-2010, 07:08
As far as learning a language (or more than one as your shipping them out to a feeder club in yet another country), I think its realistic that some of them don't bother to learn the language. They have just left everything they knew (sans football), been thrust in a completely different situation than they are used to, in a place they know nothing about, where they don't understand the language, and likely no one else speaks their language. I'd probably find it hard to settle in as well. There are many premier league players that makes tons of money and don't even bother to learn the language. Likewise, many people feel that one of the reasons english players don't do as well overseas is that they don't care about learning the new language and culture.

Its not realistic in any way. The players were sent to Belgium to get their papers so they can return and j=have a footie career. The players would have been made to understand that learning the language was part of the deal.

Quavis, its one thing to stick up for si; its another thing to be a reflexive apologist. This is obviously not working the way that it ought to work.

philly_flyer10
29-10-2010, 07:28
Same problem. And if someone IS interested, the stupid player says he has NO INTENTION of going there. Little *******.

Thats always happened, every time I try to get a player thats gone to my team IRL, hes never interested.

Theyd rather be 4th choice and never play than go out on loan and be 1st choice all season 1 division below, its been like this for years.

pelicanstuff
29-10-2010, 08:37
Better than FM10 where I was getting players to come in on loan who never ever would IRL.

fabioke
29-10-2010, 09:53
I’m born in Belgium but I still have the Italian nationality.

A football player (somebody with a job) that has taken the courses for three years shall easily obtain his citizenship in Belgium.

The language barrier exists only when somebody is unemployed or lives in a city that has somebody in charge that is into right politics.

This barrier is only introduced because you can’t find a job without knowing the language.

If you’re a Football club then you are very aware that there are cities mostly on the French part who are very lenient on giving this citizenship even if you’re only words in French are “Non and merci”

Dar2000
29-10-2010, 10:11
The problem is only with young players on high wages or a high reputation. The loan area of the game was improved a few versions ago. It used to be impossible to loan out any young player, thankfully now once you offer them out to clubs you generally get a huge amount of interest from lower league clubs.

I think the reason young players with high reputation are hard to loan out is because AI teams don't loan players from the same division. This is obviously not the case irl as top flight teams are often loaning players to each other. This must change in FM.

emiloprisa
29-10-2010, 14:56
Another thing, 5 of my Nigerians I signed have done their time in Belgium but don't have Work Permits because they don't speak BASIC FRENCH. This is an insult to my intelligence and a disgrace.


Maybe they lack the intelligence to learn it. Some players spring to mind, most evident would be Tevez.

MrPompey
29-10-2010, 15:00
Has this trash been fixed yet??? If not, I won't be buying.

LOL - You may need to be a bit more friendly if you want help and advice

shwan
29-10-2010, 15:05
3 years might not be enough to learn a language. I was taught Irish for 16 years and still cans say more than a cupla focail.

are you telling me if Messi was offered on loan, no club will take him here as he can't speak English well !!
most of Arsenal Kids go on loan and even new players came in and can't speak English but still play or go on loan.. yes language is important but not a priority

Kritik
29-10-2010, 19:53
IIRC it's to do with wages and squad status.

he stated in the first post that HE'S OFFERING PLAYERS WITH ZERO WAGE CONTRIBUTION.

Bababui
29-10-2010, 20:45
Maybe they lack the intelligence to learn it. Some players spring to mind, most evident would be Tevez.

Im not sure I agree that Tevez hasnt learned more than the most basic of English because he is stupid. Firstly, he is a very wealthy player and can afford to surround himself with his family and friends. Also, he doesnt have to learn English.

CaptainPlanet
30-10-2010, 02:34
he stated in the first post that HE'S OFFERING PLAYERS WITH ZERO WAGE CONTRIBUTION.

Shout more?

It's to do with the wages he's on at the club, i.e. players earning more are less likely to go out on loan.

Wiitastic
30-10-2010, 02:54
why not send your young stars to your afiliated teams ?

Prongsie92
30-10-2010, 02:56
Doesn't reputation play a (rather) large part in loan deals? A high reputation player won't go to a low reputation club ("Player feels he's too good to be loaned out") and a low reputation club won't make a bid for a player that won't join them (ie, an Australian club won't be making a loan bid for Wayne Rooney any time soon).

Whirlwind
30-10-2010, 03:12
The earlier posts were from a year ago... um, also, I don't encounter this problem in my save. Most of the youngsters, at least 80%, get loaned out just fine if I offer them for loan.