Long shot manager 2010

Why dont you change the name to that? every match theres like 2 long shot goals...wtf what a joke..

Why dont you change the name to that? every match theres like 2 long shot goals...wtf what a joke..

What game are you on about then?

i'm taking about that game that's advertised as a football simulation yet every player controlled by the AI has God mode or "Gerrard mode"..might aswell play miniclip pool

i'm taking about that game that's advertised as a football simulation yet every player controlled by the AI has God mode or "Gerrard mode"..might aswell play miniclip pool

haven't heard about it...

Is it any good?

Disagree. I don't get many longshot goals, I'd say I get them as much as they are scored IRL.

Well maybe your lucky, but every game i play every match theirs a long shot bullet goal..tell me i'm not the only one gets this..

Well maybe your lucky, but every game i play every match theirs a long shot bullet goal..tell me i'm not the only one gets this..

Maybe you should be uploading all those pkm's, so that somebody can point out what you are doing wrong?

I noticed a lot of people complain about it, but I don't get them that much.

where do i upload pkms??

where do i upload pkms??

In the bugs forum.

More info there.

edit; and btw: I saw that the WC final in your game was decided by 2 goals of Rooney and 1 own goal: any longshots there?

Or do the longshots only happen during your matches?

People always complain, here is the basic problem:

Person playing the game, thinking that they're the best and going to win every game.

They set their team up how they want them to play, and expect because it's their way that victory must be assured.

Everything is going alright in the game, bit of an average season for them, but hey.

They then get a good result, think they're god again, and then in the next match they play against some "lowly" team they lose, and in some cases from a magical goal. Instead of remember what's actually happened over this time they need to vent their rage at something, and the internet seems like the right kind of place.

Below is a diagram of this effect:

Also, Pro Evolution is terrible. It died with PES 2008, having been the best game for many years. I'm still ****ed off at Konami, really... How do they **** up that badly!

Have you seen FIFA 10, I was bitterly disappointed with PES 2009 so I thought I'd try the other (I switch every couple of years, PES 6 on PS2 was by far the best ever game) and the poor quality of manager mode and lies by the EA staff disgusts me.

BTW, play lower leagues, no long shots there!

Disagree. I don't get many longshot goals, I'd say I get them as much as they are scored IRL.

Well it's been acknowledged as an issue by SI and they will be toning it down by 20% in the next patch so you're in the minority there.

In the bugs forum.

More info there.

edit; and btw: I saw that the WC final in your game was decided by 2 goals of Rooney and 1 own goal: any longshots there?

Or do the longshots only happen during your matches?

It is an issue. Plain and simple.

It is an issue. Plain and simple.

So you're telling me that everybody is having 'every match 2 long shot goals' like the OP is claiming...

Sometimes I have to check I'm posting in the forum about FM10 and not some other game...

So you're telling me that everybody is having 'every match 2 long shot goals' like the OP is claiming...

Sometimes I have to check I'm posting in the forum about FM10 and not some other game...

No, I'm telling you it's an acknowledged flaw in the match engine across the board that will be rectified in the next patch.

No, I'm telling you it's an acknowledged flaw in the match engine across the board that will be rectified in the next patch.

What has this to do with the fact that he has 2 longshots goals every game?

:confused:

That's not an acknowledged flaw, is it?

Maybe you should be uploading all those pkm's, so that somebody can point out what you are doing wrong?

I don't get this attitude. If you concede a long shot goal it automatically falls down to our tactic being wrong. Sure, maybe tactical instructions could have prevented it, but at what expense?

That's not the point though. Just because it's possible for something to be defended against, it doesn't mean it should have to be.

you never heard that people exaggerate when they're angry? there are too many long shots, too many shots some players (AMCs and FCs) are able to have in a season and too many long distance goals, that's a fact.

you never heard that people exaggerate when they're angry? there are too many long shots, too many shots some players (AMCs and FCs) are able to have in a season and too many long distance goals, that's a fact.

Ah ok , I see!

The problem is being exaggerated by angry people.

that's what I think is being done with most problems.

thanks for clearing that one up.

I don't get this attitude. If you concede a long shot goal it automatically falls down to our tactic being wrong. Sure, maybe tactical instructions could have prevented it, but at what expense?

That's not the point though. Just because it's possible for something to be defended against, it doesn't mean it should have to be.

You are talking about conceding "a long shot goal"; and then I agree with you.

The OP is conceding 2 longshots goals every match, then you are doing something wrong.

What has this to do with the fact that he has 2 longshots goals every game?

:confused:

That's not an acknowledged flaw, is it?

It's acknowledged there are too many long shots.

Hence the likelyhood is there will be more goals from these shots as more shots are happening.

It's definitely an issue in all of my saves.

I'm not sure what your argument is to be fair. There won't be as many in the next patch and the match engine should be better for it.

You know i think it may be something to do with my tactics i have 5 in defense, i'm using a weak team in the finish division and well i can hold my own but trust me every game there is a long shot and goal, long curving bullets. Well i see something said its gnna be fixed thanks good to know is there any tactics to stop it? i have a dm closing down amc's which doesnt really help. on the side note

Pro evo this year has been shocking, i got both pro evo and fifa and i must say fifa is better i hope they sort it out next year. i been playing pro evo since the early days..last year was ok but this year gone down hill. I'm surprised fifa is as good. I enjoy playing that it seems to require more skill and build up play. Fifa took pro evo's best features and made them better. >cry<

oh yeah lol funny enough rooney, in the WC final one of Rooney goals was outside the box..

It's acknowledged there are too many long shots.

Hence the likelyhood is there will be more goals from these shots as more shots are happening.

It's definitely an issue in all of my saves.

I'm not sure what your argument is to be fair. There won't be as many in the next patch and the match engine should be better for it.

I'm sticking to this thread:

he's claiming 2 longshot goals every match.

And I'm saying that he is doing something wrong.

The acknowledged fact you are talking about is referring to long shots as 'slightly overpowered'. Do you see the discrepancy between

"slightly overpowered longshots" and

"2 longshotgoals every match"

?

I do.

oh yeah lol funny enough rooney, in the WC final one of Rooney goals was outside the box..

Can you post a screenshot please?

you dont as many of these issues if you play a DM.

what screeny do you want, of the goal or the result??

you dont as many of these issues if you play a DM.

what settings do you use for your dm? i think mine closes down all over the pitch, maybe thats why??

If you're using 5 in defence then try setting 1 of the central defenders as "Stopper" , 1 as "Cover and leave the other one as normal central defender.

In theory the stopper should come out of defence a bit to close down an attacker.

I honestly don't have any problem with long shots? There maybe a few too many but not too many goals actually result from them in any of my saves from what I can remember.

For me, a 5'5" Shaun Wright-Philips out jumping a 6'2" Richard Dunne and a 6'4" John Carew at the back post from a Corner and scoring with a header is slightly more of a pressing issue for me......

I've been playing a DM and I've had the issue a few times. It doesn't happen overly often, but whenever it does it always has a massive influence.

I drew a game 3-3 to Grenoble. In their first 15 games, excluding our game, they had scored 7 goals. All 3 of their goals were from long shots (1 was a free kick). The other two were long shots from corners. Never mind that I had all my corner settings to have men back, their player magically got the ball in space and shot 2 pearlers. It's unrealistic enough to begin with, but we are talking about a team who had been scoring a goal every two games.

My first league loss of the season was to my nearest title challengers. They won 3-2 with a 30 yard goal from Alou Diarra of all people.

And then there's the CL, which I just got knocked out of. Two long shot goals, one in each leg.

Even worse was that in both games I also conceded a goal in the first two mins. One was just inside the box from a sharp angle and the other was a long shot. That's an AI tactical influence issue.

you need to tweak your tactics i guess, as i don't have this problem at all.

what screeny do you want, of the goal or the result??

the goal

you need to tweak your tactics i guess, as i don't have this problem at all.

To date I have played 44 games. I've scored 92 and conceded 31. Of those 31, I'd say about 10 were long shots (25+ yards). Of the 92 I scored, I'd say about 10 were long shots. I've had a few goals rifled in from just outside, but nothing like the ridiculous long shots I've conceded.

I absolutely do not feel I should have to tweak my tactics just to compensate for the stupid amount of long shots that go in. What's even worse is that I have what I consider to be the best long shot taker in the game, and despite having his long shots set to either sometimes or often, he has only scored 2-3 long shots all season. Pretty much the same as some nobody from Grenoble, who as a team probably have scored more than either of my two most prolific players.

I think it is definitely a bug, the majority of goals I score and concede are long shots. Like someone said I think SI are aware of it

To date I have played 44 games. I've scored 92 and conceded 31. Of those 31, I'd say about 10 were long shots (25+ yards). Of the 92 I scored, I'd say about 10 were long shots. I've had a few goals rifled in from just outside, but nothing like the ridiculous long shots I've conceded.

So you are conceding 1 longshot goal every 4.4 games. (10 goals in 44 matches).

The OP is conceding 2 longshot goals every match (88 goals in 44 matches).

Do you have any idea how many longshots goals are expected to be scored in real life against any 1 team in 44 matches?

So you are conceding 1 longshot goal every 4.4 games. (10 goals in 44 matches).

The OP is conceding 2 longshot goals every match (88 goals in 44 matches).

Do you have any idea how many longshots goals are expected to be scored in real life against any 1 team in 44 matches?

There are long shots and then there are long shots though. I'm not talking about your Frank Lampard, 20 yards out and shoot from outside the box to score long shots. I'm talking about your Cameron Jerome vs Liverpool or Michael Essien vs Arsenal type long shots. The ones that really only happen once or twice a season.

haven't noticed it much personally, a few games into season 4

I use "Press more" in my tactics and set closing down OI for AMCs/ST with good long shots.

Why dont you change the name to that? every match theres like 2 long shot goals...wtf what a joke..

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No there isn't.

I don't get many long shot goals against but I do get the opposition getting quite a few 1v1 chance from through balls... can anyone guess what defensive line I play?

Hasn't it been said thought that SI are looking into the lack of closing down and tackles, which may be resulting in more long shot being taken??

SI have said they will be tweaking it slightly but there isn't a major problem. I have played a fair few hours and can honestly say I have absolutely no problem with long shots.

bolton 2 - 3 arsenal.

Fabregas 30 yards

Fabregas 35 yard volley

Van Persie 93rd minute 35 yard.

i hate life.

IMO the most common goal is from 25 yards.

It is definitely an issue. I am in November in my first season and have scored at least 10 goals from 25 yards or more (almost 1 goal in every 2)! I don't even have a long shot specialist.

Yes, there are ways to reduce the chances of long shot goals against, but there is no hiding this is a bug (or an ME mistake).

It is a shame as I want my team to play attractive football but all of these long shot bullets take away the enjoyment. Some of them make you gasp but they are too regular to be special!

I wonder if lower league football is worse for long shots due to generally lower attributes (creativity, passing, off the ball etc)? Top sides are probably more likely to find an alternative whereas weaker players might not have the ability to pick out an inventive pass or see a runner.

Why dont you change the name to that? every match theres like 2 long shot goals...wtf what a joke..

I never see long shot goals. Personally, I want FM to change to "Never-any-long-shots Manager".

It works both ways, you know...

In lower leagues it is not so much of an issue. In the top divisions it is a joke there are 1-2 long shot goals per game. I quit playing the Bundesliga because of it and becuase the game was just no fun.

For those saying there are no long shot issues.....what division are you playing?

In lower leagues it is not so much of an issue. In the top divisions it is a joke there are 1-2 long shot goals per game. I quit playing the Bundesliga because of it and becuase the game was just no fun.

For those saying there are no long shot issues.....what division are you playing?

I'm in the Blue Square North.

I havent had this issue too much, watching the Premier League IRL you see quite a few anyway.