Abaka Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 For some reason, in my second season at United, my training facilities seem to have downgraded. I decided to do a test and start up a new game and vacation through a season. In order to determine if they were downgarding, I checked the stats in the FMRTE. When I started the game, the training facilities were a 20 however, after a season they had went down to a 19? Surely this isn't right, and it can;t be a random bug as it done it in my career game and then repeated it in my test game In my test game, I stayed unemployed also. ANybody else been noticing this happen to other teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBRFC Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Maybe over time some facilities get old and not as good as they were when they were new? I have no idea but its a maybe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilUK Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Nothing stays the same forever, buildings degrade, equipment becomes outdated, its normal. Another example of realism in FM2010! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I havent seen that before, but I would suggest its possible a bug in FMRTE reading the data, rather than the facilities getting worse. Test it out by trying to upgrade the facilities and see what the board says?? edit: mine have recently been upgraded at Liverpool, and the board "will not consider any requests to upgrade" either training or youth facilities. FMRTE shows them both at 20, so I will keep an eye on it and see what happens... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Riz Remes Posted November 13, 2009 SI Staff Share Posted November 13, 2009 Facilities degrade over time as technology develops and what was once "state-of-the-art" is now yesterday's news. So NeilUK got it pretty much spot on there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiebaz Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Wear and tear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fall Ark Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Facilities degrade over time as technology develops and what was once "state-of-the-art" is now yesterday's news. So NeilUK got it pretty much spot on there Please give us an option to have more global/worldly events "BREAKING! Global warming having an effect on temperature. Experts predict shorter winters in the next decade." "The economic recession finally ends. Average demand for salary on the rise. " "The Large Hadron Collider runs new test tomorrow. Those with weaker minds start to panic. " "Seaside cities seem to lose their attraction as sea-level steadily rises." "Local power failure led to training in dark. " "Scientists find unlimited source of energy. Holy guacamole we don't need money any more!!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golaxi Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 i dont buy that realism excuse, it needs toning down. facilities degrading in just one year is not realistic, surely it takes longer than that. especially in league 1,2 where money is usually in deficit within 10 years all league 1 and 2 clubs will have minimal facilities! thats not realistic? i was told mine degraded because my finances weren't in the black? whats the real truth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnyvagus Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 i was told mine degraded because my finances weren't in the black? whats the real truth? Finances not in the black maybe means you had no money (i.e. in the red?) to look after the facilities?? ...resulting in them degrading???? Just a guess.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golaxi Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 yes that is the guess. but why is man utds also degrading within a year? people just concluded that facilities degrading every single year is realistic! somethings not realistic here right? sure if moneys tight but why is this happening to man u? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cobble Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 because man utd are also living in the red big style. If they were in liverpools position right now I'd hazard a guess that not qualifying for the ECC would have harder hitting effects on utd than it may do on liverpool when (if?) they dont qualify in top four! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golaxi Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 ok but why did the si team member say its because technology advances instead then? surely technology doesnt progress THAT quickly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbchuz Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I actually like the idea of training facilities degrading! And lol@Fall Ark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afced7 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 To all the people saying that one year is too soon for the facilities to degrade: The facilities were not built in the year the game starts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaka Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 I like this feature, think it's a fantastic addition Carrington was built in 1999/2000 I believe, so ten years would see changes. However, I hope this dosn't get out of hand...I mean finances at United are difficult, so I would hate to think that if I left the facilities that after 5-6 years they would be poor! It has the potential to be a great feature but also a disaster! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koki Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I always thought of how nice it would be to have this feature. And now it is here. Cool! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Riz Remes Posted November 14, 2009 SI Staff Share Posted November 14, 2009 Facilities don't degrade each and every year, the rate of decay is a lot slower and depends on the level of facilities naturally. The top-of-the-class facilities are more likely to drop in rating since keeping up a state-of-the-art facilities would require constant upgrades and invesments in real life as well. However the average facilities will not decay as fast and it might take several years to see a drop with some of the more average clubs. Golaxi, there are two ways for facilities to decay in the game. One is natural long term decay because of equipment, buildings etc. growing old and this is what I described above. This long term decay will be a lot slower for the average clubs naturally as their facilities aren't cutting edge to begin with. The other possible cause for facility downgrades in the game is finances. If the club does not have enough money to maintain their current facilities (regular servicing and maintenance) it will lead to decay. The board might also see the financial situation bad enough to not put any money into maintaining the current facilities or in the worst case scenario, they might abandon some facilities to try and cut down on long term maintenance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordarod Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Facilities don't degrade each and every year, the rate of decay is a lot slower and depends on the level of facilities naturally. The top-of-the-class facilities are more likely to drop in rating since keeping up a state-of-the-art facilities would require constant upgrades and invesments in real life as well. However the average facilities will not decay as fast and it might take several years to see a drop with some of the more average clubs.Golaxi, there are two ways for facilities to decay in the game. One is natural long term decay because of equipment, buildings etc. growing old and this is what I described above. This long term decay will be a lot slower for the average clubs naturally as their facilities aren't cutting edge to begin with. The other possible cause for facility downgrades in the game is finances. If the club does not have enough money to maintain their current facilities (regular servicing and maintenance) it will lead to decay. The board might also see the financial situation bad enough to not put any money into maintaining the current facilities or in the worst case scenario, they might abandon some facilities to try and cut down on long term maintenance. But it makes no sense. If a 20 training facility in 2040 is not equal to a say 30 training facility in 2010. If a state of the art facility in 2040 does not train players better than a state of the art facility in 2010 then it's just a cosmetic money eater and then facilities getting old and technology developing excuses for downgrading them makes no sense. Right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelicanstuff Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 But the attributes of players are relative. 200 CA = 'best possible in the world'. If technology and training improves, a feasible CA of 180 in 2040 - and the linked stats - may be be better than 180 in 2010, even if it can't be seen due to the relative nature of the attributes (i.e. 20 dribbling in 2040 may be a higher standard than 20 dribbling in 2010). Hope that makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunjc Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 everything is relative to each other so it doesnt matter, what SI, NielUK and pelicanstuff say makes sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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