dalfraintno Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I'm playing on a brand new top of the range laptop, why on earth would this happen? I've just lost an entire summer of transfer so not too pleased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 HOw many leagues are you running? How much RAM does your laptop have and are any programs running in the background? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillsminnow Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 There's a big thread on this in the bugs forum (Technical Issues). It's an issue a LOT of users are experiencing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 any extra player databases loaded? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalfraintno Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 I have 4GB RAM. Only running Englans down to Blue Square as playable leagues. Around 5 leagues as 'view only'. No extra player databases. Wasn't expecting this with a brand new laptop! Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 you using vista? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalfraintno Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 No Windows 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 prees ctrl alt delete and bring up the tast manager and see how much ram you are using when playing fm then close fm and see how much you are using when not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalfraintno Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 Think i'm using 2.13 with FM, and 1.63 without. Does that make sense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 yep your ram usage seems high when not using fm you can disable things from starting up when windows boots. click on the start menu in search type msconfig and press enter then click startup take a screenshot of that and post it back hre and ill see what can be disabled to increase performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalfraintno Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 Brilliant, thanks for your help, i'll try do that now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalfraintno Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 Ok there are so many they don't fit in one screenshot... I'll cut and paste for you! 1. HD Audio control panel 2. Realtek voice manager 3. Alps pointing device driver 4. RAID event monitor 5. Java Platform SE 6 U14 6. GoogleToolbarNotifier 7. Windows Live Messenger 8. Steam 9. Adobe Acrobat 10. ISB Utility 11. Catalyst ® Control Centre 12. EasyNetwork 13. Norton Online Backup 14. Marketing Tools 15. McAfee Security Center 16. Java platform SE 6 U15 17. VAIO Media Plus 18. QuickTime 19. Itunes 20. Bluetooth Software Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 ok unless you need itunes starting up untick that same with quicktime and adobe acrobat. also if you dont need google toolbar remove that from control pannel. why are you using mcafee i hate that program Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vet Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 You shouldn't have this problem with 4 gb ram. I spend more ram than you on my Windows 7, and while I have 6 gb - you still have more than enough to face any difficulty on this manner. I can only give you one sound advice - save often - like once a week on autosave or more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalfraintno Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 mcafee came free with the laptop, or at least a 6 month trial. would uninstalling that and getting something like AVAST be of benefit too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 yea or even avg free Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalfraintno Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 awesome. thanks for your help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie543 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 i also have some programs to keep your system clean ill pm you with the details Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekman Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Ok there are so many they don't fit in one screenshot... I'll cut and paste for you!1. HD Audio control panel 2. Realtek voice manager 3. Alps pointing device driver 4. RAID event monitor 5. Java Platform SE 6 U14 6. GoogleToolbarNotifier 7. Windows Live Messenger 8. Steam 9. Adobe Acrobat 10. ISB Utility 11. Catalyst ® Control Centre 12. EasyNetwork 13. Norton Online Backup 14. Marketing Tools 15. McAfee Security Center 16. Java platform SE 6 U15 17. VAIO Media Plus 18. QuickTime 19. Itunes 20. Bluetooth Software If it was me I would stop 1-7,9, 11,12, and 14-20 Once you've stoped these things from starting reboot and see how you get on. If you have any problems you can always re-enable them. Option 14 looks especially iffy to me. Do you have any idea what it does? After you've done this I would also suggest that you download something called game booster and run it. It will stop anything that window doesnt need to work properly. It will work fine with windows 7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZone Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 With 4GB you shouldnt have this issue FM2010 should only use a max of 2GB itself, so as long as you're using less than 2GB with your system, I dont believe running out of actual memory isnt the issue I have 4GB, and Im playing with nearly 50 leagues on full, the game has only ever hit a max of 1.7GB usage and only rarely done so But, with optimizing your laptop in mind 1. HD Audio control panel - Is fine 2. Realtek voice manager - Is fine 3. Alps pointing device driver - Is fine 4. RAID event monitor - Is fine 5. Java Platform SE 6 U14 - Should only be running when another program requires it 6. GoogleToolbarNotifier - Switch off, unless using 7. Windows Live Messenger - Only run when you are using 8. Steam - Only run when you are using 9. Adobe Acrobat - Only run when you are using 10. ISB Utility - Leave on 11. Catalyst ® Control Centre - Should be an option in the program itself to "Enable System Tray" make sure its unticked, will save some memory and still have the program working 12. EasyNetwork - Not sure what this is, even google is throwing up too many possibilities 13. Norton Online Backup - For the love of god get rid of anything Norton and find a suitable replacement 14. Marketing Tools - ??? 15. McAfee Security Center - Have little experience with McAfee, I believe its ok but I dont know the memory footprint it uses 16. Java platform SE 6 U15 - Same as the other, but you shouldnt have two different versions, therefore you may have a conflict here, you should uninstall both and install latest version 17. VAIO Media Plus - Only run when using 18. QuickTime - Only run when using 19. Itunes - Only run when using 20. Bluetooth Software - Only run when using NOW, please avoid using msconfig to change these settings (it should be last resort tbh) What you need to do first, is goto any option menus of these programs and see if there is a way to stop them "start with windows"/"start automatically" (or something to that effect), and then unticking Some programs can be buggers if you use msconfig, as they will just re-enable themselves unless you've told the program itself not too If no options exists, then (and only then) use msconfig But like Ive said, I dont believe it is a memory issue (unless you've got faulty ram... but thats something else) Though, quick way to find out, IF FM crashes out like this again, goto your Task Manager, click performance tab and look at "Physical Memory Usage History" If the blue line has at any point touched the top... then yes you have indeed run out of usable memory, BUT if it hasnt, then running out of memory isnt the issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekman Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I've never experienced any problems using msconfig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadZone Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Some programs do cause problems, but tbh I dont see any on his list that will Its recommended to use program options before altering anything in msconfig, just to be safe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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