fmobande Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Do you use the Touchline Instructions a lot ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutontown1991 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 NOt really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berggren75 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 In every game. And I DO see results from doing it. It is an absolutely brilliant addition to the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Does a manager shout a lot? YES. Yes I do!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Bodde Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I use it an awful lot, find them useful for chasing a goal or keeping a lead. Would be good to have a detailed run-through of what they actually do though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin_ellis_19 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 It's only useful to me at the later stages of games, i.e. quicker tempo. I would rather it than not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Yes I use them every match, for various instructions and tactical changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psucolonel Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 what is the difference between "fluid", and "attacking"? "Attacking" is found in the tactics area, whereas "fluid" is found in strategy I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVS_Gooner4life Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Yes i use it in every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Use them a lot, and it works. Been playing as Athletic Club Bilbao, and at the beginning of games I'll set "Get Ball Forward", "Push Higher Up", and "Exploit the Flanks" (sometimes I use "Exploit the Middle" and/or "Hassle Opponents" and/or "Work Ball Into Box" as well). Once I have an established lead, I often use "Retain Possession", "Drop Deeper", "Hassle Opponents" (sometimes using "Clear Down the Flanks"). Sometimes I'll use different ones, but that's pretty much how I use the touchline instructions. I finished 3rd in my half-season, so I guess I'm doing something right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I don't really use the instructions, but I change the mentality a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner4eva Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 yeah i use them every game. One of the main selling points for me this year. great addition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLatics Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Every game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theballstopshere Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 sorry if this sounds dumb i can't seem to use touchline instructions, when i click on the box, and select the instructions, i can't seem to send it out. how do you use it guys? help. thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcftm Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 They're great. I use the clear ball to flanks near enough every game, and pass to feet helps me keep the ball seeming a hell of a lot more against any team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 In every game.And I DO see results from doing it. It is an absolutely brilliant addition to the game. This is my thought too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar$haLL Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 If you don't use it every match, you shouldn't be playing this game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVS_Gooner4life Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I use it an awful lot, find them useful for chasing a goal or keeping a lead. Would be good to have a detailed run-through of what they actually do though +1 on that, some i understand but some of the instructions got me puzzled what they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 download and read tactical thereoms and frameworks 2010 - explains everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I'm on a mac and I can't use the touchline instructions, they are blanked out - can I fix this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwfan Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Are you using classic or creator tactics? Shouts don't work for the former. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Nope. I am using classic tactics so I am not using them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Managers shout, so touchline instructions are a necessary introduction. What's more is that the actually choices available to you are pretty damn good. I use them frequently and do seem to find them useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVS_Gooner4life Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 download and read tactical thereoms and frameworks 2010 - explains everything It's used for the new tactic creater too?, i thought was for sliders only? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It's an awful and tacky addition. Big no-no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarssonBhoy Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Love them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It's an awful and tacky addition. Big no-no. Yeah. Managers shouldn't shout in football because it sounds tacky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 these are what the touchline instructions do: Retain Possession Instructs your players to prioritise keeping hold of the ball. Get Ball Forward Instructs your players to look to get the ball into the attacking third. Pass Into Space Instructs your players to look to make passes into space. Pass Into Feet Instructs your players to look to make passes into the feet of the receiver. Pump Ball Into Box Instructs your players to launch high, long-range passes into the opposition’s penalty area. Clear Ball To Flanks Instructs your players to look to make their clearances into wider areas to be picked up by attacking players. Shoot On Sight Instructs your players to shoot when the opportunity arises instead of waiting for a more clear-cut opening. Work Ball Into Box Instructs your players to work hard for their opening, remaining patient and not forcing the issue. Exploit The Flanks Instructs your players to look to take full advantage of wing play, perhaps due to an opposition weakness. Exploit The Middle Instructs your players to look to take full advantage of playing through the middle, perhaps due to an opposition weakness. Look For Overlap Instructs your players to hold onto the ball and look for an overlapping player in support, most likely a marauding full-back. Take A Breather Instructs your players to keep hold of the ball but simply take a moment to recover physically before attacking again. Play Wider Instructs your players to look to stretch the pitch and play wider. Play Narrower Instructs your players to look to narrow the field and play in the middle of the pitch. Push Higher Up Instructs your players to play higher up the pitch, starting with the line the defence holds, which should be close to the halfway line if this option is chosen. Drop Deeper Instructs your players to retreat into their own territory and defend it from there. Hassle Opponents Instructs your players to give the opposition little time and space on the ball, attempting to force a mistake. Get Stuck In Instructs your players to be aggressive and strong in the tackle. This may increase the risk of fouls and disciplinary action. Stay On Feet Instructs your players to stay on their feet when making tackles instead of going to ground. Play Even Safer If you wish to preserve a lead, selecting this option will instruct your players to play with safety foremost in their attentions. Take More Risks If you are chasing a game, this option will instruct your players to take whatever risks necessary to get themselves back in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwfan Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It's an awful and tacky addition. Big no-no. Could you expand on this? What do you feel is awful and tacky about it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Yeah. Managers shouldn't shout in football because it sounds tacky Yeah that's about right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Could you expand on this? What do you feel is awful and tacky about it? You had to go and ask didn't you... Fwiw, the only reason I don't use it is because I feel my tactics don't quite work as I want. This is probably because my tactics are very specific to my players and my systems often didn't work once I enforced the desired changes. Don't get me wrong, they did what they said they would which is excellent, but it changed my tactic in a negative way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwfan Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Doesn't make them awful and tacky, though Only relates to how you want to play. I can certainly understand why there might be a learning curve in terms of how to best implement them (should you wish to use them) and that badly employed shouts could and should negatively disrupt your tactics, but Tom's critique seems to suggest they are a terrible addition to the game. We've always accepted that some people wouldn't want to use them (hence retaining the classic system), but I'm interested in why somebody feels they shouldn't be in the game in the first place and what he would have replace them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Oh yeah, I completely disagree with Tom. No way are the shouts any of things he described. I am interested in his response to this? And you're probably right, if there were some kind of guide (if there is, would someone point me in the direction of it please?) for the shouts then I would probably use them. I just find, at the moment, that I am getting better results and better play from using my own classic tactics and making my own tweaks in game than using the shouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It's an awful and tacky addition. Big no-no. Are you crazy? How is it tacky? Managers shout during matches. They shout tactical instructions during matches. Touchlines shouts simply have to be there for a realistic experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwfan Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Millie has released Tactical Theorems '10 (stickied in the tactical forums), which explains everything in detail. He's been part of the support/feedback process from its initial stages and has been producing the guide in parallel to conceptual development and implementation. It's a far better iteration of the TT&F series than I have ever produced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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