Karimawa Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Though I see the game is almost perfect, the offside problem is still existing ; a couple of years ago Fifa changed the rule and the offside decision is to be made only when the striker touches the ball, which means that if the striker is in an offside position and his colleague passes the ball to him and a defender intercepts, or the ball went to another direction or the striker leaves it to another player; the ref. should play on. In the FM10 demo still any pass forward while having a striker in an offside position is count as an offside, which is no more realistic. What do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golaxi Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 you are right and fm is waaay too slow on this. its like 6 years out of date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
master_wu Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 it is the known issue. it's a bug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karimawa Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 but this is still annoying, hopefully they take a look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 You are correct in this but at the moment IRL the offside rule is absolute rubbish and the referees vary so much from decision to decision let alone from game to game which proves that it is difficult in real life to under the new rules to judge a player offside, so I think FM is right to show the offside using the old rule which to be honest in my opinion never needed altering by FIFA anyway (Maybe a girlie was put in charge of FIFA and couldn't understand the rule at the time ;-)). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Though I see the game is almost perfect, the offside problem is still existing ; a couple of years ago Fifa changed the rule and the offside decision is to be made only when the striker touches the ball, which means that if the striker is in an offside position and his colleague passes the ball to him and a defender intercepts, or the ball went to another direction or the striker leaves it to another player; the ref. should play on.In the FM10 demo still any pass forward while having a striker in an offside position is count as an offside, which is no more realistic. What do you think? I may be out of date here, but isn't a player offside if he is deemed to be interfering with play, regardless of touching the ball, for example by blocking the view of the keeper? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Bostero Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Though I see the game is almost perfect, the offside problem is still existing ; a couple of years ago Fifa changed the rule and the offside decision is to be made only when the striker touches the ball, which means that if the striker is in an offside position and his colleague passes the ball to him and a defender intercepts, or the ball went to another direction or the striker leaves it to another player; the ref. should play on.In the FM10 demo still any pass forward while having a striker in an offside position is count as an offside, which is no more realistic. What do you think? No, FIFA didn't change Law 11. They DID say that the assistant referee should wait if more than one attacker is making a play on the ball, and one of them isn't in the offside position. But the text didn't change. What I find a little unrealistic is that the decision is given when the pass is made, rather than once the direction of the ball is perceived. IRL, assistants need a second to see where the ball is headed before they raise the flag. Even so, the referee and assistant referee movements in this game seem to be a little better than in '09. -Jorge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Bostero Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I may be out of date here, but isn't a player offside if he is deemed to be interfering with play, regardless of touching the ball, for example by blocking the view of the keeper? That's interfering with an opponent, and yes, he is involved in active play and deemed to be offside. -Jorge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karimawa Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Both of you are correct .. but this is not the case in FM .. Line-man flags up when a player passes and another player is in an offside position even the offside player is not in the direction of the ball ( which means no doubts of interference ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanchflower1 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 it is the known issue. it's a bug Well, I hope that this bug can be resolved with the patch! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriffpatgarrett Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Maybe it´s not a bug but at the moment just too hard to code into the game,.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
master_wu Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Maybe it´s not a bug but at the moment just too hard to code into the game,.. WE series and FIFA series game have no offside issue like FM, so code can do perfect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca2oo7 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I may be out of date here, but isn't a player offside if he is deemed to be interfering with play, regardless of touching the ball, for example by blocking the view of the keeper? Sure, but there have been many occasions on FM2010 when this isn't the case, and it still happens anyway, on a frequent basis ie. several times during a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malleria Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I agree, if the pass is intended for an offside player, he is interfering, as he deemed where the ball was played by being an option. Also IRL the refs are pretty clueless and inconsistent so its realistic really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themistofelis Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 When it applies to both teams then it is a "not a big deal" bug. I still remember an EA sports made football manager where the AI team's players were never in offside position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriffpatgarrett Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 WE series and FIFA series game have no offside issue like FM, so code can do perfect But there is a different code for FM and different coders as well. Not saying it can´t be done but it might be too complicated? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Funk Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 WE series and FIFA series game have no offside issue like FM, so code can do perfect In fact in the new PES2010 the referees sometimes give wrong evaluation to some actions, to improve realism! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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