Robin_ellis_19 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 On FM2010 I'm not sure if I'll put RANGERS and CELTIC into the EPL to make it 22 teams. So when you post does this... Will I does this: Yes/No then your reason... Advantages: (couple of reasons) Disadvantages: (couple of reasons) I will take every post into account and your decisions will make my descion easier to make on the 30th October 2009 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I see you're from Wales. Have you ever thought of putting Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham into the Welsh Premier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinese_Taboo Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 No. Advantages: An extra 2 teams. Disadvantages: Keep it official. They're Scottish. Infact I might put all the Welsh teams in their original welsh league. Prem League is as long as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Advantages: (couple of reasons) Rangers and Celtic are well supported teams and would bring a higher attendance to the premiership They MIGHT provide more competition long term to the top 4/5/6/(eight including them!) Disadvantages: (couple of reasons) Will a 22 team premiership work? Is it hard coded to 20 They will probably get relegated in their first season as their teams are dire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I might do it myself, at some point. It'll hardly be priority but it's 'filed for later' Advantages Will open up the Scottish Premier League and make it more competitive. Any one of a number of clubs will then be title contenders. Will make the EPL more exciting. Rangers Vs Man United, Celtic Vs Liverpool, Rangers Vs Arsenal and Celtic Vs Chelsea (to name just a few) will all be great matches. There are more advantages no doubt but I'll let others list them. Disadvantages Will weaken the SPL, especially financially as the old firm do bring a lot of money to the other clubs which participate. Could be deemed unfair on the weaker EPL teams who will have more matches to lose The sheer strength of this newly formed EPL will give Michel Platini more reason to whine about it Etcetera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizze Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 all scots in the epl and you should do epl 1 and epl 2 16 teams each Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearsy Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Don't think you can by the way. Pretty sure you cannot edit competitions already in the game. Feel free to correct me those in the know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearsy Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 all scots in the epl and you should do epl 1 and epl 2 16 teams each It wouldn't be the English Premier League then. It would be the British Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin_ellis_19 Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 I see you're from Wales. Have you ever thought of putting Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham into the Welsh Premier? What would be the point every year it would be 1st Cardiff 2nd Swansea 3rd Wrexham every single year, the WPL is the worst league in Europe so what would be the point? Could say the same about the SPL, Rangers and Celtic 1st or 2nd nearly every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 How would putting scotish teams in English prem affect their ability to hit home grown player numbers? Because Scottish players Brought up in Scotland aren't hone grown in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 How would putting scotish teams in English prem affect their ability to hit home grown player numbers? Because Scottish players Brought up in Scotland aren't hone grown in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimoz Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Hell why dont you just make a british premier league and combine leagues from all over britain, England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland. Now that would be an interesting competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 problem with making a combined british league (As interresting as it sounds!) means that you have: premiership with 18 english teams, 2 scottish. Championship with 15 english teams, 3 scottish teams and 2 welsh teams (and thats being generous to swansea!) And then all the rest would get a bit more mixed - but you probably wouldnt get a single irish team or team from the welsh league (As apposed to a welsh team already in the english league) until the conferance level at best. Basically, you end up with the English league, with 2 medium-big teams added in and 3-4 average teams and then 50+ crap teams (no offense meant!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimoz Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Yeah but you could divide them into divisions so that the crap teams would play the crap teams and the good teams would play the good teams. I know it wouldnt happen but I thought it would be an interesting concept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 What would be the point every year it would be1st Cardiff 2nd Swansea 3rd Wrexham every single year, the WPL is the worst league in Europe so what would be the point? Could say the same about the SPL, Rangers and Celtic 1st or 2nd nearly every year. It might give the other WPL teams some extra funds to get better, and also increase the league standard. You could argue the same issue (big team dominance) with the English Premier League. Only 3 different teams have won it for the last 14 years. As for your original question, I say go for it. The curiosity factor alone is enough. If it doesn't work out, quit and load the original database. Happy days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 problem with making a combined british league (As interresting as it sounds!) means that you have:premiership with 18 english teams, 2 scottish. Championship with 15 english teams, 3 scottish teams and 2 welsh teams (and thats being generous to swansea!) And then all the rest would get a bit more mixed - but you probably wouldnt get a single irish team or team from the welsh league (As apposed to a welsh team already in the english league) until the conferance level at best. Basically, you end up with the English league, with 2 medium-big teams added in and 3-4 average teams and then 50+ crap teams (no offense meant!) It might be quite fun to put a couple of teams from Wales, Scotland, Ireland and N.I. into the Premier and see how far they sink. They've got to stop getting relegated at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tottenhamfmo7 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Don't do it at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 It might give the other WPL teams some extra funds to get better, and also increase the league standard. You could argue the same issue (big team dominance) with the English Premier League. Only 3 different teams have won it for the last 14 years.As for your original question, I say go for it. The curiosity factor alone is enough. If it doesn't work out, quit and load the original database. Happy days! HAHA - very well picked... 14 years... because exactly 14 years ago it was won by a 4th team - blackburn... And that doesnt tell the whole story - its not been those same 3 (4) teams that have (almost) won it every year for those 14 years. In that time there have been LOADS of teams coming 2nd and 3rd - Newcastle, Leeds, Liverpool, Nottingham forest. So, although only 3 (4) teams have actually WON it, there has been decent competition (some years) from 8 teams. Whereas, if you did produce that welsh league it would be like Scotland is now - 2 teams winning it EVERY year, with the very occational blip with a brilliant manager working miracles on another club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougyMarshall Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Whats the point of asking opinions about it? All you are going to get is Scottish and English tossers arguing and trying to score cheap digs at eachother. Theres only going to be very few people who will actualy give you a decent thought out answer and the rest will be sitting arguing about past winners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Dean Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Advantages: ....? Disadvantages: 2 Championship Quality sides in the premiership Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maidel Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Whats the point of asking opinions about it?All you are going to get is Scottish and English tossers arguing and trying to score cheap digs at eachother. Theres only going to be very few people who will actualy give you a decent thought out answer and the rest will be sitting arguing about past winners. Who exactly was that aimed at??? Every single post was valid, on topic, sensible and utterly 'untosserish' EDIT - appart from the post directly above... sigh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 HAHA - very well picked... 14 years... because exactly 14 years ago it was won by a 4th team - blackburn... That's exactly why I picked that date. You'll find any commentator or print media doing the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 problem with making a combined british league (As interresting as it sounds!) means that you have:premiership with 18 english teams, 2 scottish. Championship with 15 english teams, 3 scottish teams and 2 welsh teams (and thats being generous to swansea!) And then all the rest would get a bit more mixed - but you probably wouldnt get a single irish team or team from the welsh league (As apposed to a welsh team already in the english league) until the conferance level at best. Basically, you end up with the English league, with 2 medium-big teams added in and 3-4 average teams and then 50+ crap teams (no offense meant!) I've worked out a simpler structure for a British league system. EPL (called British PL) - same Championship - same League 1 - SPL/SFL div 1 League 2 - Coca-Cola League One (I've worked out the league rankings according to FM league reputations). Down to a regional levels from level 7 (will now be equivalent of BSP), leagues down to level 10 (where I'll start). 4 up/4 down. All divisions 20 teams I'd expect Rangers and Celtic to storm their division and maybe the Championship the next season. Watching from my vantage point bumbling about with PA10 players in level 10, with 4 promotions and relegations it shouldn't take many seasons too see how Scottish, Welsh and N. Irish teams compete with the English. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerhgrrrrrr Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Advantages: (couple of reasons) Fun !?!?! (matter of opinion) It would be intereresting to see if my theories (below) are proved correct. Disadvantages: (couple of reasons) We already have enough Championship quality teams in the Prem (Wigan, Bolton, Hull etc), we really do not need 2 more. Rangers & Celtic are not as good as many seem to think, they would probably end up in the 2nd tier after one or two seasons anyway especially as their days in Europe Comps money spinning would end immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 The only advantage I can see is that it would make European contention alot more exciting.. Even if in the first couple of seasons they'll maybe compete for Europa League but it'll be like managing someone like Tottenham/Everton/Villa. Could work in game but that's as far as I'd like to see it go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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