Suge Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Hoping to get an idea of which mode is the most popular. Personally, I enjoy watching the full game. It's slow but I'm finding it really enjoyable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynet Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Key m8 the game is slow enough as it is why prulong the agony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Because the game isn't about racing through seasons, its about enjoying the experience and the match is central to that. On a sidenote though how on earth do you manage to identify when to change tactics if you only use key highlights? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 the option that isn't there, commentary only. Sometimes i'll be patient enough to watch the Key highlights in 2D though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Key for most games, however for bigger games I use extended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I use key highlights. I can read things in terms of opposition tactics and how well my tactics are working quite quickly. I previously used 'extended' until I started to be able to read the AI fast enough to react to it. I find the match representation can be quite repetitive and I tend to see the same things happening quite often just using key highlights. Does anyone else find this? I watch in 2D mode. Just lately, I have been playing quite a bit of FM09 and there are certain moves, chances (especially hitting the bar, skimming the bar, the ball going over) and even certain goals (especially one where the striker shoots from an angle quite close to the goal and it goes under the 'keeper) that I have seen occurring quite regularly during matches. I can only presume that this has something to do with the introduction of 3D because I haven't really noticed in it in FM08 but it really sticks out in the new game. Anyone else noticed this? Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Because the game isn't about racing through seasons, its about enjoying the experience and the match is central to that.On a sidenote though how on earth do you manage to identify when to change tactics if you only use key highlights? For me it actually is. I don't really enjoy the tactical side of the game, I prefer to play the long term game by signing players, watching them improve and continually working on improving my squad. I use the same solid tactic (which I spent a while designing) for every match, I make the vital changes but I'd rather just get on with it and move on to the next match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smac Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Key for most games, however for bigger games I use extended. Same. I'd watch extended if I changed tactics at all, but other than injuries and subs I no longer like to change tactics unless I have to: There isn't enough ++ to changing tactics mid-match to outweigh the --, generally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I use key highlights. I can read things in terms of opposition tactics and how well my tactics are working quite quickly. I previously used 'extended' until I started to be able to read the AI fast enough to react to it.I find the match representation can be quite repetitive and I tend to see the same things happening quite often just using key highlights. Does anyone else find this? I watch in 2D mode. Just lately, I have been playing quite a bit of FM09 and there are certain moves, chances (especially hitting the bar, skimming the bar, the ball going over) and even certain goals (especially one where the striker shoots from an angle quite close to the goal and it goes under the 'keeper) that I have seen occurring quite regularly during matches. I can only presume that this has something to do with the introduction of 3D because I haven't really noticed in it in FM08 but it really sticks out in the new game. Anyone else noticed this? Regards, C. I've noticed both of what you mentioned a lot, but thought it was just me :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Extended, like seeing all of the events, however minor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
__BOB__ Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 i pick comms if i want to fire through a season quick time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlHighfield Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 My laptop is to slow for all of them so i do commentry only and have highlights on goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenom84 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 only commentary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashbag Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I've noticed both of what you mentioned a lot, but thought it was just me :o Yeah me too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 Have to be honest, didn't realise so many people still went for commentary. To me, it's like driving a Mini when you have the keys to a Porsche. I'd much prefer to see my team play than read about them. But hey, to each their own. Where are the rest of the full'ies? I'm sure there is more. Let's be av'n ya. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz12345 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 im certainly a fully - easier to win stuff cos you can get ur tactics just right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenotaph Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Key, in split view. Match on left, match stats/player ratings etc on right. switch the right one quite a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUNGSTEVE Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Have to be honest, didn't realise so many people still went for commentary. To me, it's like driving a Mini when you have the keys to a Porsche. I'd much prefer to see my team play than read about them. But hey, to each their own. Where are the rest of the full'ies? I'm sure there is more. Let's be av'n ya. I also play full. You never know what you are going to miss, though in the lower leagues it is plenty of dross. (:- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik86 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I play Key and then normally half way through the second half I go on holiday...Impatient! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimbobWWFC Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I play Key and then normally half way through the second half I go on holiday...Impatient! That is brilliant! Imagine seeing the same manager do that every week in real life! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Because the game isn't about racing through seasons, its about enjoying the experience and the match is central to that.On a sidenote though how on earth do you manage to identify when to change tactics if you only use key highlights? It is about racing through seasons if you are limited for time and have other responsibilities. Also, I never change tactics, so.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 If this is a fair representation of how the community approach the game its no wonder that we get so many threads complaining about tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 If this is a fair representation of how the community approach the game its no wonder that we get so many threads complaining about tactics That's based on the myth that it is necessary to tweak, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimbobWWFC Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 You don't tweak at all, Elrithral? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 You don't tweak at all, Elrithral? I haven't tweaked in 15 games and am top of the table, tweaking in matches is not a nescessity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Never, I have two tactics an ordinary one and an emergency one, but I never tweak the settings. Didn't on 08 either and i've had plenty of success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 You don't tweak at all, Elrithral? I don't either. One tactic has been good for me for 15 seasons now, all the way from the BSS to the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I don't either.One tactic has been good for me for 15 seasons now, all the way from the BSS to the PL. Further proof that the game isn't as complex has portrayed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Further proof that the game isn't as complex has portrayed. Same thing happened in 08. People harped on about how hard it was and how it was so frustrating to tweak all the time. Then 09 came out and there was a lot of talk about how complex each attribute was and what off the ball does to player x etc, afaic it's codswallop, I load my save, click continue and relax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Further proof that the game isn't as complex has portrayed. Saying that, I did spend a considerable amount of time designing that tactic but once it was finished it has made my games so much faster and more enjoyable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Saying that, I did spend a considerable amount of time designing that tactic but once it was finished it has made my games so much faster and more enjoyable. I'm not dispelling the work that went into your tactic at all. You have done very well to get from the BSN/S to the Premier League. I was pointing out the constant "you need to tweak all the time" and "you need to react to in-game situations" arguments are not nescessarily true and are perhaps forcing something on the user that they don't need to do. Congratulations on your success and am not way am I saying that not alot of work went into your tactic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 To the chaps with just one tactic - can I ask what kind of tactic is it? By that, I mean are the mentalities normal or attacking? Width, defensive line, things like that? I've often thought that the game is biased towards attacking mentalities and that you could be successful with one fairly 'balanced' attacking tactic. Essentially, as you progress through the game and become successful, the opposition becomes more defensive in its outlook. If you are a top team, you could easily get away with just one tactic and never tweak. Even starting as a bottom team, I think you could take the rough with the smooth at first and pretty quickly get to a point where you are succeeding once the team is gelled and you have good players. I still think that for maximum performance, tweaking is useful, especially in away games where the opposition can become quite aggressive if you have a slender lead. But, in theory, I imagine it is perfectly possible to create one tactic and to be very successful with it. Well, I mean, Dafuge has proved it. Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 To the chaps with just one tactic - can I ask what kind of tactic is it? By that, I mean are the mentalities normal or attacking? Width, defensive line, things like that?I've often thought that the game is biased towards attacking mentalities and that you could be successful with one fairly 'balanced' attacking tactic. Essentially, as you progress through the game and become successful, the opposition becomes more defensive in its outlook. If you are a top team, you could easily get away with just one tactic and never tweak. Even starting as a bottom team, I think you could take the rough with the smooth at first and pretty quickly get to a point where you are succeeding once the team is gelled and you have good players. I still think that for maximum performance, tweaking is useful, especially in away games where the opposition can become quite aggressive if you have a slender lead. But, in theory, I imagine it is perfectly possible to create one tactic and to be very successful with it. Well, I mean, Dafuge has proved it. Regards, C. Mentality - 12 CF - 10 Passing Style - 8 Tempo - 13 Width - 10 Closing Down - 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Is that global mentality Peter? Do you find you struggle a bit when coming up against a team who 'park the bus' ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 No. Most of the team are within 2 either side od that mentality though. Only the forwards are dramatically above that. Passing is global though. Haven't had a team 'park the bus' yet. Wil tell you when that happens though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakobx Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Key mostly. On FM09 i used commentary only since they stupidly removed one of the sliders so the highlights are way too fast or the game is way too slow. In other words, everything except commentary is useless. Its funny that they added 3d, but managed with one unbelievably dumb move to make even 2d unusable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 To the chaps with just one tactic - can I ask what kind of tactic is it? By that, I mean are the mentalities normal or attacking? Width, defensive line, things like that?I've often thought that the game is biased towards attacking mentalities and that you could be successful with one fairly 'balanced' attacking tactic. Essentially, as you progress through the game and become successful, the opposition becomes more defensive in its outlook. If you are a top team, you could easily get away with just one tactic and never tweak. Even starting as a bottom team, I think you could take the rough with the smooth at first and pretty quickly get to a point where you are succeeding once the team is gelled and you have good players. I still think that for maximum performance, tweaking is useful, especially in away games where the opposition can become quite aggressive if you have a slender lead. But, in theory, I imagine it is perfectly possible to create one tactic and to be very successful with it. Well, I mean, Dafuge has proved it. Regards, C. Here's what my tactic looks like, although I should add that there are lots of individual instructions so it is not quite that simple. It was originally designed to be a balanced attacking tactic but at the moment the strength is actually the defence. What you've said there has been very true for me, when I have players who are better than the opposition I tend to do well but with a weak squad I will struggle. It is certainly no wonder tactic that will guarantee success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardock Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Teams never park the bus at least I've yet to see it happening in FM like I do IRL. Full most of the time to gauge the other team but I do switch to key when I feel confident I'm going to run away with the match. I tend to switch back around 75th minute if I'm only 1-0 sometimes even 2-0 ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Yes Dafuge, your tactic is pretty much as I expected it would be. As I said before, in my opinion the game is biased towards attacking mentalities. At the start, some teams might be more aggressive but your home form probably carries you forward. Then, the AI is very quick to change to be more defensive, even when at home. Away from home might be more difficult because in my experience the AI changes more often to attack, especially if it is behind and needs a goal. However, I imagine that if you have good team gelling, good players and good home form, you pick enough up on the road. I would think that your approach works pretty well Dafuge. Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Is that global mentality Peter? Do you find you struggle a bit when coming up against a team who 'park the bus' ? I don't have my tactic details to hand, but I do suffer when teams park the bus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebu Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 In all previous CM/FM versions I always used key, except in the beginning etc, but with 09 I find myself using extended always - loving it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennico Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I always play in Full Match Mode. An FM match for me is played out pretty much in 'real time', in that it usually takes me around ninety minutes per match. I like to, as a 'real life' manager would, observe every facet and action of what is taking place upon the field of play. I enjoy to watch the exciting brand of attacking, yet patient build-up possession football that my teams play. I also like to see exactly what the opposition are up to at all times. Since I began to play on Full mode, the amount of goals I concede has dropped by approximately 65%, as I am able to notice and counteract every change they make, and see what each team is doing against me that proves effective. I find this enables me to spot potential vulnerabilities before they are exposed, and prevent them from occurring, rather than noticing the problem when my 'keeper is fishing the ball out of his net. I find that playing in any other mode, what I gain in speed, I sacrifice in control. Not a sacrifice I am prepared to make. Sure, the additional time it takes was a drawback at first, but the benefits soon began to outweigh the consequences for me personally, and very soon I found that I was beginning to enjoy playing this way so much, that I could never go back to extended highlights. Only exception on occasions, is games very early on in pre-season against much weaker opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlikeJellybeans Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Key all the time 300th post woo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atcdelay Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Full Matches. I only play two seasons a year (or four total as I only upgrade FM every other year). I'm still twice as fast as reality though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebu Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Haha, nice atcdelay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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