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mustardpower
14-07-2009, 10:20
I would like something to be introduced in the game where you could view how many shirts each player has sold, such as Ronaldo is expected to sell millions of Real Madrid shirts. I'm not sure this would be useful to managing your team but I feel it would help represent shirt sales more realistically and I think it would be fun to look at once in a while.

Nene_Park_Faithfull
14-07-2009, 10:22
I second this.

Shottaz
14-07-2009, 10:25
I think you get additional funds if you sign a player who will impress the fans...

But as a visual gimmick.. why not

elgreenio
14-07-2009, 10:25
think this would just be another one of those unused features, sounds very FIFA Manager to me

Aodhagan
14-07-2009, 10:55
Ya i agree. If you pay big money for a well known player you have the chance to recoup a little bit

baker.simon
14-07-2009, 11:17
think this would just be another one of those unused features, sounds very FIFA Manager to me

Not really, IRL before Real Madrid signed Ronaldo, they forecast how much his merchandising would be, which was key in securing the funding to buy him. I think it would be good to be able to see how much you could generate by signing a star player, especially when its at the top end of the budget. Positive merchandising figures would help you make a judgement on this. Example, C.Ronaldo or Ribery? Both world class, but i bet Ronaldo would generate more income so you could factor this into making your decision.

As a fan of graphs, figures, databases etc, this gets a :thup: from me.

santy001
14-07-2009, 12:10
Saying something is like fifa manager is a bit daft really, with the amount of features they've attempted down the years, they're bound to get some right. As much as I like FM, I've still not seen anything on there I'd rate as good as the form thing they had a few years back when it was still TCM, a player in bad form would be a bit below his usual level on his stats, good form a bit above. It's currently rolled in with the merchandising, but when the financial director etc tells me to expect a rise, I've not actually seen anything noticable on the finances screen.

rougess
14-07-2009, 12:28
Sounds good, would like to see it :thup:

stuboy
14-07-2009, 12:44
yes, it would be good if it was a bit clearer than just being combined with merchandising, i sold a top player and only noticed a big drop in merchandising a few months later, would be good to be informed at the time that this might happen etc.

AZBruntsfield
14-07-2009, 12:56
I totally agree. Real's economic model is based on the income from their Galaticos.

More financial detail would be great, but this idea is excellent on it's own.

messi
14-07-2009, 13:05
I like this idea, also to know how much a certain player is earning you in shirt sales etc...

bawbag the gr8
14-07-2009, 13:15
It could be shown in the form of a simple table:



Shirt - Sales - Income
-------------------------------
Plain - 50,000 - 1,000,000
Ronaldo - 20,000 - 400,000
Kaka - 15,000 - 300,000
Robben - 10,000 - 200,000
Raul - 12,000 - 240,000


With an option to view weekly, monthly, yearly and all time figures

BenArsenal
14-07-2009, 14:22
I never knew shirt sales were soooo important. :cool:

silva_gunner
14-07-2009, 16:13
TBH this is one of FIFA Mans better features. It does make a difference, as if i know i can get an extra 100,000 a year from shirt sales if i sign X not Y, then i will bid an extra amount.

Neji
14-07-2009, 16:20
I think it could become a pretty important addition to some managers. Real Madrid claim that their transfers are carefully planned on merchandise sales, so they can obviously be very important.

Thepathtoamen
14-07-2009, 16:59
good idea I think. :-)

InterWolf
14-07-2009, 17:07
But it really only affects probably 5-10 clubs is in the world. Not going to be great to see Smith - 1 shirt, bought by mistake as a birthday present, 40.

bardock
14-07-2009, 17:30
Madrid don't rely heavily on the Merchandise aspect when signing a player. Of course it'll help but not enough to justify the high prices they pay. Usually they recoup the money after a few years through securing better sponsorship deals and getting extra TV revenue cash (teams in Spain sell their TV rights individually). I read an article by some Real Madrid guy a couple of weeks ago. According to the guy Kaka and Ronaldo would have to play regularly at their best so that Madrid can recoup their money in 5-6 years.

I personally think it'll be useless. I think the system they have in place right now is basically club reputation dictates amount of money a club gets from merchandise. If you complete a big signing the message you get about extra sales is basically like a one off bonus. Adding the number of shirts sold by each player will probably be something simple like the bigger the reputation of both player+club the bigger the number. It'll be a set figure attached to every point of reputation a player+club has. We might as well guess, the figures won't aid us in anyway.

I suppose it'll help people feel more involved though so I don't know.

njfff
14-07-2009, 17:38
Yes it would be nice to see this as it would help decide when to go for a big name and whether his transfer fee and wage were worth it

Fox2k
14-07-2009, 17:43
Only lazyness would stop SI from including this. Great idea.

Mistrho
14-07-2009, 17:59
to be honest i think this feature would be more useful for smaller clubs then bigger clubs as bigger clubs will make money off european competitions and better sponsership deals anyways i mean its not hard to get a bank balance of over 100mil with a top club the way fm is currently.
this feature will help a smaller club manager make that crucial decision in choosing between 2 players of equal quality to maximise their profits.

SCIAG
14-07-2009, 19:00
Smaller clubs sell a lot less shirts and shirt sales tend to be pretty evenly distributed, unless there is a particular fan's favourite. The merchandise section currently does the job for lower league clubs. This is already in the game bar the exact figures.

The flaw in Perez's plan is that I bet people who were going to buy Kaka shirts will now mostly buy Ronaldo shirts. Will they get 145m in shirt sales from the pair? Probably not.

Taytaz
15-07-2009, 14:04
You must remember that these shirts cost a ridiculous amount for a real one....around the 100 mark in a few cases....and there are an awful lot of Madrid supporters in the entire world who buy real shirts

phnompenhandy
15-07-2009, 14:16
Bleh! A 'real' shirt here sets me back two quid!

hursty2
15-07-2009, 14:26
It's a good idea but may not be as useful in the lower leagues, its more for the higher rep clubs:thup:

mustardpower
31-12-2010, 20:00
As I've just been looking through my old threads I found this again and sadly after 2 years this still hasnt come true :(

heathxxx
31-12-2010, 20:16
Smaller clubs sell a lot less shirts and shirt sales tend to be pretty evenly distributed, unless there is a particular fan's favourite. The merchandise section currently does the job for lower league clubs. This is already in the game bar the exact figures.

The flaw in Perez's plan is that I bet people who were going to buy Kaka shirts will now mostly buy Ronaldo shirts. Will they get 145m in shirt sales from the pair? Probably not.

My AFC Telford BSP and FA Trophy double winning season, generated all of 19,284 in merchandise sales last season. ;)

Particularly good sellers, were the Abdou Sall Defensive "Stopper" novelty condoms. He's been a fan favourite for two years now, so always worth cashing in on a good brand name. The Yannick Zambernardini Defensive "Cover" ones, didn't sell so well.

hugo_rune
31-12-2010, 20:23
I suppose it'll help people feel more involved though so I don't know.

That alone is reason enough for me to want this in the game.

mustardpower
31-12-2010, 20:34
I just think features that make the game a bit more fun without being the jobs of other people (e.g building a 3D stadium) are what is needed to make the game more playable and enjoyable as I know I would probably like this feature more than an even more complex tactical engine. I know some people love making tactics etc. so obviously I wouldnt argue against developing that as long as the game is still accessible to people who just want to sign a few players and start playing with a bog standard tactic

edgar555
31-12-2010, 21:21
Massive bump for this one!
Anyway really don't think its that important. You can already see the benefits of big name signings with increased merchandise revenue, thats enough for me, I really couldn't care less how many were actually sold, unless they decide thats how the champions will be chosen.