Ridiculous pricing of players [Transfering]

Hi, sorry again if this is the wrong forum.

My question is, "Why do i have to pay ridiculous amounts of money for my offers to get accepted?".

I an Manchester United, so unsurprisingly, the players i target are top quality and quite often well established and important to their current clubs. I can see that the other clubs want to hold onto their players and therefore ask for great amounts of money, but it seems that some seem ridiculous and im sure im doing something wrong.

On my current save, its the start of the first season.

My current buys are:

Camacho - 10m

Azpilicueta - 10m

Dzagoev - 16.5m

Their total values are under 4m for each player, but for such hot prospects i find these amounts reasonable and good buys.

Here are some of my other targets:

Chiellini - Value:8.25m - RejectedOffer:30m+Clauses

Akinfeev - Value:5.5m - RejectedOffer:26m

To me those players dont seem to be the team "essentials" and i have no idea why there asking for so much.

Also im wondering if anyone has any tips for getting players as cheap as possible.

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This is my usual transfer method:

1)Chat the player up on "player interaction"

2)Chat the player up on "player interaction" again

3)Chat the player up on "player interaction" again

4)Offer double the players value and gradually increase offer till accepted.

I never fail when negotiating contracts, i just find some/alot of players overpriced.

Chiellini is quite simply the top Centre Back in the game, vastly superior to the likes of Sakho, Zapata, Vidic, Ferdinand, Pepe, Fazio etc. The only player that is even close to him is Ramos and he is miles behind in terms of defensive quality. You are talking about a guy that is mentally just about the perfect defender and is packing Passing 15, Creativity 13 at game start from Central Defence. I'll let you into a little secret and that is he is not un-signable. When you consider how much Cristiano Ronaldo is going for then Chiellini is a bargain. The guy is almost perfect.

In real life Juventus won't sell him for a much much larger fee so I dont see what is so unrealistic about it..

Alot of the time your paying the extra cash because the player isn't for sale.

I have always found that the best way to get players is funnily enough scouts.

If your scout comes up with a minimum and maximum approachable price for a player then they are willing to sell. If not then either the player isn't interested or like Atletico did for that winger the other day, they'll ask silly money.

Ye, i just find it a bit overpriced though, because you cannot really negotiate much with clubs over prices.

Ye, i just find it a bit overpriced though, because you cannot really negotiate much with clubs over prices.

What does "overpriced" mean? £80M for Ronaldo - overpriced?

It's the purchaser who makes the good overpriced - if you are willing to pay it then surely it is not overpriced.

Stop complaining. If they're asking for £50M for a player then he's simply not for sale. But hey, if you want to spend an obscene amount of money then we want £100M!!!

Can we have these threads closed quickly in the future because this topic has been discussed MANY times.

it is unrealistic.

transfers such as ronaldo, kaka etc. are definitley very very rare.

however, on the game there are many many 50M+ players.

also money is too easy to get on the game. big clubs pay stupid stupid prices.

Thats the way it works IRL. You have some good buys and you get some where you have to pay over the odds.

I find that you can negotiate most of the time. I usually enquiry and if they give me a price, I will negotiate and get them down (even then you still have to pay over odds for some players). Just bid until they give you an asking price and when they come back with it try to negotiate them down.

its realitsic .. but just abit too frequent

kaka ronaldo ect , hopefully this does'nt spur on other clubs to pay stupid money for 'big' players ^^

it is unrealistic.

transfers such as ronaldo, kaka etc. are definitley very very rare.

however, on the game there are many many 50M+ players.

also money is too easy to get on the game. big clubs pay stupid stupid prices.

That's a different issue though. Yes there may be too many massive tranfer fees but that shoudln't stop clubs asking for high prices. Alsom the examples given by the OP sound realistic.

What does "overpriced" mean? £80M for Ronaldo - overpriced?

It's the purchaser who makes the good overpriced - if you are willing to pay it then surely it is not overpriced.

Stop complaining. If they're asking for £50M for a player then he's simply not for sale. But hey, if you want to spend an obscene amount of money then we want £100M!!!

Can we have these threads closed quickly in the future because this topic has been discussed MANY times.

Of course, thats understandable if they do not want to sell.

BUt its way to frequent, espcially with football clubs lesser than your own.

IRL, managers will be willing to let their young stars leave if they know there going to achievemore at a much better club. They will negotiate a fair price and let their star go and get better, most of the time.

On here however, they want 3/4 times the players value before they will let go.

RBH i think this should be a priority for FM10. ATm Fabregas would cost barca in the region of 30-35m. In the game he would cost about 70m. Ronaldo would cost about 120m in game. This is just plain silly.

My biggest signings for my Barcelona team were

C. Ronaldo £85 million

Rooney £83 million

Kaka £50 million

De Rossi £55 million

Been trying for Fabregas but it is looking like he will cost £90 million, are these prices close to real life? I dont think they are far off Man Utd would reject nearly any offer for Rooney.

As for Fabregas in real life no one knows how much he would cost alot of people thought Ronaldo would move for £60 million and it ended up being £80 million instead. Its been said alot of times before on this forum the huge prices are the way the AI says he is not for sale. When I managed Nantwich I had a regen CM who was brilliant someone enquired about him and I didnt want to sell him so I said £50 million at the time I was in the championship. £50 million basically means he is not for sale but if someone did offer that then he would go.

The problem is people are willing to pay the prices more than anything.

I paid something like 186mill on my liverpool for Fabregas, my other big signings followed similar trends of stupid money. Thats not realistic.

Its not realistic because you agreed to pay it. If any club in the world enquired about Fabregas and got quoted £186 million they wouldnt pay it thats the point of asking for so much.

Just out of curiousity did you negioate with them at all?

Its not realistic because you agreed to pay it. If any club in the world enquired about Fabregas and got quoted £186 million they wouldnt pay it thats the point of asking for so much.

Exactly what I was thinking

All these mammoth prices seem unrealistic to you, as you are prepared to pay the stupid amount, whereas in RL, the club would most likely look elsewhere. So you could say it's you thats making your game unrealistic.

I sgined Chiellini for 15m..Never chat the up or anything ect,,

What year did you sign him, on mine he still has a long 5 year or so contract.

Also, i find negotiating with AI doesnt help at all. Everytime they come back with higher and higher asking prices.

I had to withdraw my accepted bid of £12m for joao moutinho because i hadnt the money. 2 weeks later, it cost me an extra 1.75m (£13.75m, there was absolutoly no budging them. In the end, i signed him then because i didnt want to end up paying even more.

If a player is indespensible to his club, they will ask huge sums for his services. I just paid 50 million for Fazio!

The only thing I find really annoying about the game right now in this respect, is the way the AI makes an offer for a player, say 15m, and you make the same offer of 15m, and the AI comes back with a counter offer of 26m, but accepts the AI's initial 15m bid. Meaning you have to pay 5-10 million more for the same player than the AI.

I started with bids from 30mill for fabregas, they wouldn't accept anything below.

I tried to sign Fabregas as Barcelona I offered his value and upped the bid by £5 million each time until they negoiated for £148 million. I then kept offering £10 million more until they accepted £90 million. People say that the AI doesnt negoiate on the game but its very rare that I have any problems.

that true about the prices, in my aston villa season i got benzema for £40mil but in man utd had to pay £100mil, also how much u gotta pay to get buffon as i've went as high as £60mill when his contract got 18mnths left and it always gettin refused, bloody annoyin

If a player is indespensible to his club, they will ask huge sums for his services. I just paid 50 million for Fazio!

The only thing I find really annoying about the game right now in this respect, is the way the AI makes an offer for a player, say 15m, and you make the same offer of 15m, and the AI comes back with a counter offer of 26m, but accepts the AI's initial 15m bid. Meaning you have to pay 5-10 million more for the same player than the AI.

There could be several reasons for this:

1. Are you paying in instalments vs. upfront?

2. Is the AI team offering them additional clauses (% next sale)?

3. Is the player's team a rival?

4. Did you try offering 12m instead and meet them halfway?

5. Are you Man City?

System isnt too bad with the big names, its the youngsters and potential good players. Someone worth 4m should not realisticly go for more than 10m.

System isnt too bad with the big names, its the youngsters and potential good players. Someone worth 4m should not realisticly go for more than 10m.

No, they shouldn't. Unless, of course, you're willing to pay more than 10m for them.

I think part of the problem might be the large transfer budgets many people end up with. In my Boro save where tehy start out in the Championship I'm going into my 4th season and I was given a £60m budget by the board for a title challenge. That strikes me as a little excessive.

The actual fees being quoted here are only unrealistic if people are willing to pay them. IRL no player is totally unsellable - everyone has their price. It just so happens that for a large number of top players that price is basically unattainable for 99% of clubs.

For a good example of silly money for kids, look at the total fee Arsenal paid for Walcott. It was about £12m and, at the time, he hardly looked worth it, and in FM his stats would have been crap for thatsort of money. Now he looks to have been a pretty good buy. That seems quite similar to the way the AI negotiates for top youngsters.

I just paid around 9M for a Danish international DLC who was valued around 4M.

He still had 3yrs left on his contract and AAB didn't want him to leave but for me he was better than the alternatives and worth the extra.

Plus Points for me

At 25 he is my 3rd best DC with the other two better DCs being 30 & 32.

He can still improve a little and will replace the 32yo in the first eleven over the next couple of seasons.

He is equally good at DC & DL so can provide good cover at DL.

Set piece specialist and although I already have a couple they always come in handy.

High teamwork, work rate, determination and leadership make him a future captain in a couple of seasons which is an area I'm lacking.

He speaks english & his personality fits in well with the squad.

One of his strengths is consistency and he has no weaknesses.

So yes I could have bought a DC cheaper but he wouldn't have ticked all the boxes this guy does.

end of the day it is about if the player in questions really fits your team. if I found that if I found a good youngster who was perfect for the role I wanted him for, as was said by Cougar2010, they I will pay more for him as if you sign someone else for a cheaper price you will more than likely need to replace him in a seasons time as he won't do the job you want. And the orginal bloke will have gone up in price again.

Forgot to say patience is also needed sometimes.

At the same time I was tracking a U21 DL, I made an enquiry and was quoted 30M which I wouldn't pay.

A season later he had fallen out with his club and I was on his favoured list. Result was they offered him to me for 8M which was much more reasonable.