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Hazzydeepy
11-01-2008, 09:19
I personally think that the 2007 match engine was very good and probably the best fm match engine. Now i am not saying it was perfect because it wasnt and it had its faults. But like so many other people i feel that 08's match engine is quite a bit worse and almost back to like a 'square one'. SI didnt need to change the match engine much, just a few tweaks here and there and it would be fantastic, but they changed it completly and tbh anyone would think this is the first time a match engine/2d pitch has been put into a fm game, what with it being so fualty/bugged. This is not an 'attention seeking thread' or a 'rant thread' at all. All i am saying is that SI should not have changed the match engine as much as they did and for 09 i would be glad to have the 07 one back but tweaked SLIGHTLY and FOR THE BETTER. Anyone think this too? Or do most people think that 08's match engine is better than 07 and they would be happy for no/hardly any improvemnets to it for 09? Yout thoughts

Hazzydeepy
11-01-2008, 09:19
I personally think that the 2007 match engine was very good and probably the best fm match engine. Now i am not saying it was perfect because it wasnt and it had its faults. But like so many other people i feel that 08's match engine is quite a bit worse and almost back to like a 'square one'. SI didnt need to change the match engine much, just a few tweaks here and there and it would be fantastic, but they changed it completly and tbh anyone would think this is the first time a match engine/2d pitch has been put into a fm game, what with it being so fualty/bugged. This is not an 'attention seeking thread' or a 'rant thread' at all. All i am saying is that SI should not have changed the match engine as much as they did and for 09 i would be glad to have the 07 one back but tweaked SLIGHTLY and FOR THE BETTER. Anyone think this too? Or do most people think that 08's match engine is better than 07 and they would be happy for no/hardly any improvemnets to it for 09? Yout thoughts

bigdunk
11-01-2008, 09:27
08s isn't as balanced as 07s was, although 08 has still got a patch to go, compared to the number 07 had. But 08s match engine is generally a lot better. There is much more variation in the play and (best of all, as far as I am concerned) bad players/teams play a lot more realistically badly (if that makes sense).

George Graham
11-01-2008, 09:30
IMO the FM08 match engine is better than FM07s, and the match engine needed a reboot as it was becoming quite stale.

If you go back to the boxed version its quite obvious how much of a departure FM08s version is, with a great range of finishes that didnt feel scripted or repetitive, games were multi-paced and not the 100 mph stuff we got in every FM07, pretty much all of FM07s annoyances were fixed too (and there were a lot!), plus setpieces were much improved- obviously there wwas the defending and closing down issues but imo FM08 8.00 played the best and most realistic game of offensive football Ive seen on FM. It was just the defensive side where it fell down.

If SI can just retain the offensive side but sort out the defensive side then I think SI have a winner.

This is why I hope SI are taking time with the patch- as 8.01 feels more like FM07, whereas 8.00 was very different.

Hazzydeepy
11-01-2008, 09:30
Yes it is alot more realistic in terms of being a football match, but there are quite alot of problems with it ie. too many shots and and one on ones

PaulC
11-01-2008, 09:31
As I have posted elsewhere we are working on it and yes we are taking our time to try to eliminate as many issues as possible.

George Graham
11-01-2008, 09:32
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bigdunk:
08s isn't as balanced as 07s was, although 08 has still got a patch to go, compared to the number 07 had. But 08s match engine is generally a lot better. There is much more variation in the play and (best of all, as far as I am concerned) bad players/teams play a lot more realistically badly (if that makes sense). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amen.

gonzo7
11-01-2008, 09:32
Now I'm used to it the 08 engine is reasonable. The only things that annoy is when an attacker runs at your defence and then they part as if its Moses running through. Near post headers from corners are also a bit dodgy. But overall its ok.

nezimhalilovic
11-01-2008, 09:37
moses? who does he play for?

George Graham
11-01-2008, 09:46
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by nezimhalilovic:
moses? who does he play for? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Israel. Been capped a number of times and will probably lead them to the promised land of World Cup 2010.

gonzo7
11-01-2008, 09:48
Moses is a biblical figure who parted the sea to lead the Jews out of Egypt???

Well something like that anyway.

nezimhalilovic
11-01-2008, 09:56
eccy thump, it's right what they said about the internet being a powerful tool, look what i just found:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses

Hazzydeepy
11-01-2008, 09:57
stop the moses crap

George Graham
11-01-2008, 09:59
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hazzydeepy:
stop the moses crap </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stop being such a miseryguts- its Friday and nearly pub-o-clock.

nezimhalilovic
11-01-2008, 10:02
stop the crap moses!

why? this is a forum for free thought and i just wondered [erroneously] if this moses guy could partnered with beattie in my blades side.

you live and learn...

Hazzydeepy
11-01-2008, 10:07
george graham- I am 14 and i couldnt care less about pubs.

nezimhalilovic- you couldnt be more right. yes it is a forum for free thought about FOOTBALL MANAGER not a jewish holy figure.

nezimhalilovic
11-01-2008, 10:09
if you read the link i placed above then you'd see that moses is a holy figure for jews, christians and moslems alike. 14 years old? doesn't say much for the english education system.

Hazzydeepy
11-01-2008, 10:13
nezimhalilovic what do you mean doesnt say much about the english education system?

Hazzydeepy
11-01-2008, 10:28
come on what did u mean nezimhalilovic

Hazzydeepy
11-01-2008, 10:31
well i can see ur offline so i think if i am right u were calling me stupid well i am in top set for everything and among the smartest people in the whole year.

Bongo-Bongo
11-01-2008, 10:39
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hazzydeepy:
well i can see ur offline so i think if i am right u were calling me stupid well i am in top set for everything and among the smartest people in the whole year. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And yet you seem not to have heard of punctuation.

Hazzydeepy
11-01-2008, 10:41
Yeh u r right now full stops commas hyphens or capital letters in any of my posts. Blind prat.

Bongo-Bongo
11-01-2008, 10:45
There was one full stop in your last post. I question who is blind. (There are also no capital letters, and of course, the forbidden text speak)