J.Price Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I thought this problem had been fixed in the patches? He is a manager with rubbish stats and a rubbish reputation who gets given jobs at big clubs and has just been given the Newcastle job in my game. Was this not fixed? Are SI aware of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Newcastle? Big Club? You're 'avin a laugh I don't see why this is a bug, have you never seen a manager who isn't too well known manage a big team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudsterman Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I think a researcher accidentily put an extra '0' in his reputation, or something like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Price Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 Newcastle? Big Club?You're 'avin a laugh I don't see why this is a bug, have you never seen a manager who isn't too well known manage a big team? This is the equivalent of Paul Simpson getting the Sunderland job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Or Homer Simpson... Check out the odds for the Celtic job on Paddy Power. I've never heard of two or three of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Price Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 Its not about the odds... its about who gets the job. Pope Benedict is on Paddy Power for the Celtic job (check it - he is.). Im talking about someone getting the job, not being linked with it. Frederic Remola is the manager of Club De Sète 34, which is a team in the 5th tier of French football. The equivalent of a manager from the Conference Premier getting the job of a mid table team in the Premer League (which is what Newcastle are in my save - regardless of the fact they got relegated in real life). It's a bug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 This is the equivalent of Paul Simpson getting the Sunderland job. Simpson has done a good job at Shrewsbury, so it isn't that strange... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Price Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 Simpson has done a good job at Shrewsbury, so it isn't that strange... I do know that, I went to the play off final at Wembley... And it still would be strange. You hardly ever see managers going up 5 leagues in one job unless they are well known such as a past player like Ince, and whats more, it's bigger than Simpson getting the Sunderland job because Remola is the equivalent of a BSP manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GillsMan Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I do know that, I went to the play off final at Wembley...And it still would be strange. You hardly ever see managers going up 5 leagues in one job unless they are well known such as a past player like Ince, and whats more, it's bigger than Simpson getting the Sunderland job because Remola is the equivalent of a BSP manager. I'm sorry to hear that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Price Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 I'm sorry to hear that. Ohhhh Its on now! 90th min! I went 2 years ago too and we lost then.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I do know that, I went to the play off final at Wembley...And it still would be strange. You hardly ever see managers going up 5 leagues in one job unless they are well known such as a past player like Ince, and whats more, it's bigger than Simpson getting the Sunderland job because Remola is the equivalent of a BSP manager. So why did you bring up Simpson getting the Sunderland job? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Price Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 First thing that came to my head.. doesnt really make much difference. Look at post number 6. It's still a bug, I don't know why your debating the fact that it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I'm debating the 'fact' that it is because I don't see whats wrong with a manager getting a job unexpectedly. What are his wages like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Price Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 You think that a manager in the Blue Square Premier getting a Premier League job is would happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Like I said, what are his wages like. The club may want a cheaper alternative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Its not about the odds... its about who gets the job. Pope Benedict is on Paddy Power for the Celtic job (check it - he is.).Im talking about someone getting the job, not being linked with it. Frederic Remola is the manager of Club De Sète 34, which is a team in the 5th tier of French football. The equivalent of a manager from the Conference Premier getting the job of a mid table team in the Premer League (which is what Newcastle are in my save - regardless of the fact they got relegated in real life). It's a bug. I know Pope Benedict is, but that's a joke I am surprised that Remola is getting jobs, but if he has a low rep, as stated in the OP, why does it only apply to him? Or is this a one off? Does he love Newcastle, for example? Is he Dennis Wise's best mate? (btw, Ince only jumped two leagues) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Price Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 Like I said, what are his wages like. The club may want a cheaper alternative. I dont know, I dont have my game open right now but come on, you know that thats a weak argument, it would never happen and it's happened in other saves too. A club would not hire a manager from 5 leagues below to save some money.. It's a bug. I know Pope Benedict is, but that's a joke I am surprised that Remola is getting jobs, but if he has a low rep, as stated in the OP, why does it only apply to him? Or is this a one off? Does he love Newcastle, for example? Is he Dennis Wise's best mate? (btw, Ince only jumped two leagues) It seems to be that just Remola gets big jobs and its happened a few times, so im guessing he has a high rep accidentally put in which is why he gets these big jobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I'll check his rep in the editor. For what it's worth, I've never seen him in a big job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Price Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 Can you check it against some managers in Premier League as well as League 1 and BSP too? To see what the difference is. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Ok; Frederic Remola Current Reputation = 42 Home Reputation = 42 World Reputation = 170 Arsene Wenger (Top Prem, Arsenal) Current Reputation = 173 Home Reputation = 180 World Reputation = 165 Sam Allardyce (Mid Prem, Blackburn) Current Reputation = 138 Home Reputation = 138 World Reputation = 105 Phil Brown (Low Prem, Hull) Current Reputation = 110 Home Reputation = 110 World Reputation = 40 Mick McCarthy (Championship, Wolves) Current Reputation = 130 Home Reputation = 140 World Reputation = 95 Steve Tilson (League 1, Southend) Current Reputation = 111 Home Reputation = 111 World Reputation = 42 Mark Stimson (League 2, Gillingham) Current Reputation = 85 Home Reputation = 85 World Reputation = 0 Chris Wilder (Conference Premier, Oxford) Current Reputation = 75 Home Reputation = 75 World Reputation = 20 So yes, it does look as though a mistake has been made with his World Rep. Apologies, but I prefer to rule out all other possible events before saying something is a bug. Wonder what that 170 was meant to be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Price Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 17? That would seem about right, as world rep is just below all the others Frederic Remola Current Reputation = 42 Home Reputation = 42 World Reputation = 17 That would seem right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Yeah, maybe. I'll post it in the Data Issues forum, as that is what it is rather than a bug. See, I was right () Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG92 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 He is Juventus manager in mine,has terrible stats. He was in charge of 2 rubbish french teams then got the Juventus job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauvner Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 on my save he has managed Almeria Torino & Fenerbahce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 It's a data issue rather than a bug, yeah. Like Nacho Novo's 1 for finishing or Hleb's 1 for dribbling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 It's a data issue rather than a bug, yeah. Like Nacho Novo's 1 for finishing or Hleb's 1 for dribbling. I don't get it? Hleb has 17 for dribbling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Yeah i just noticed that too. And Novo has 13 for finishing. Must have been pre-patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim99 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 He has pretty much crashed and burned on my save. Was at FC Sete then moved to cagliari and got them relegated then moved to Atalanta and got them relegated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Just checked him on my save - May 2010. He's still at Sete. CA 85 PA 100 Genie: Home/Current rep 3063 World rep 2300 Wage 850 quid pw In my save Newcastle are midtable with Roy Hodgson as manager: CA/PA 163/165 Home rep 7310 Current 6552 World 6815 Wage 12000 pw So, yeh, they just dont compare. Remola doesn't appear to have any strange figures here though, and he hasn't moved 'up'. In using 9.3.0. It seems that he's weird in some of your saves but not others (at least, not mine). Hmm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9sublime Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Tony Adams and Nigel Clough, two managers who's past experiences were Wycombe (he got us relegated) and Burton Albion, and ended up at Portsmouth and Derby respectivley. I think this mistake adds a nice realistic touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockyhammer Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Tony Adams and Nigel Clough, two managers who's past experiences were Wycombe (he got us relegated) and Burton Albion, and ended up at Portsmouth and Derby respectivley. I think this mistake adds a nice realistic touch. i agree with what your saying but tony adams is a former england captain so he has a high profile which helped him get the portsmouth job,and nigel cloghs dad was arguably the best manager england never had an was just awesome at helping smaller clubs reach otherwise unobtaniable levels and nigel in his own right spent ten years at burton eventually helping them into the league so i think that he derserves the derby job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoVieira Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I thought this problem had been fixed in the patches?He is a manager with rubbish stats and a rubbish reputation who gets given jobs at big clubs and has just been given the Newcastle job in my game. Was this not fixed? Are SI aware of it? Do you think that's weird? In my game Giorgio Pellizzaro (Juventus's goalkeeping coach) was given the Newcastle job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Its not about the odds... its about who gets the job. Pope Benedict is on Paddy Power for the Celtic job (check it - he is.).Im talking about someone getting the job, not being linked with it. Frederic Remola is the manager of Club De Sète 34, which is a team in the 5th tier of French football. The equivalent of a manager from the Conference Premier getting the job of a mid table team in the Premer League (which is what Newcastle are in my save - regardless of the fact they got relegated in real life). It's a bug. From Burton Albion to Derby. Not unheard of. Okay, not a Prem team, but it's a huge leap. Or how about Match of the Day pundit to manager of the biggest club in the relegation battle with NO previous experience? Okay, not saying for sure it's not a bug in the game, but if he is considered a talented up and coming manager - like Gary McAlister before Leeds sacked him - it's not unheard of that the researcher might have given him a high PA or higher rep than his status suggests. But yes, his attributes are terrible, and he's Sunderland manager Nov 2009 in my latest game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 So yes, it does look as though a mistake has been made with his World Rep. Apologies, but I prefer to rule out all other possible events before saying something is a bug. Wonder what that 170 was meant to be? 17 or 70? Or 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Like J.Price said above, 17 probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteus Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I played Tottenham twice last night and hammered them silly on both occasions. I couldn't figure out why as they have a pretty good team, but then I happened across this thread and searched for Mr Remola in my game. And who did he manage? Tottenham of course. Guess he is the reason they were so terrible against me in both games. I was expecting a challenge from them but they were dire and I beat them by more than 5 goals in both games. I checked his reputation with FMRTE and his world rep was far too high compared to his other two rep attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Price Posted May 29, 2009 Author Share Posted May 29, 2009 From Burton Albion to Derby. Not unheard of. Okay, not a Prem team, but it's a huge leap.Or how about Match of the Day pundit to manager of the biggest club in the relegation battle with NO previous experience? Okay, not saying for sure it's not a bug in the game, but if he is considered a talented up and coming manager - like Gary McAlister before Leeds sacked him - it's not unheard of that the researcher might have given him a high PA or higher rep than his status suggests. But yes, his attributes are terrible, and he's Sunderland manager Nov 2009 in my latest game. Is Remola a french footballing legend? No. Nigel is the son of one of footballs greatest ever managers - that is why he was able to get that job. Shearer is one of Newcastle's greatest ever players and one of modern English football's most well known names. That is why he got the job. McAllister played almost 300 games for Leeds. That is why he got the job. It is a bug (or wrong data or whatever Arsenal! ), why don't people get that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Rudd Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 It's not a bug because the game is working correctly with the data as given. It is a data issue; silly results are happening because the person's stats are not set correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Is Remola a french footballing legend? No.Nigel is the son of one of footballs greatest ever managers - that is why he was able to get that job. Shearer is one of Newcastle's greatest ever players and one of modern English football's most well known names. That is why he got the job. McAllister played almost 300 games for Leeds. That is why he got the job. It is a bug (or wrong data or whatever Arsenal! ), why don't people get that? I get that it's a mistake - was just playing devil's advocate. My second post shows that, I thought. Will keep an eye on him in future saves. It's actually kinda funny. Anyone with cheat progs able to look at rep vs ability? Any more errors like this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9sublime Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Despite Adams abysmal record, I guarantee you if he wants another decent managerial job he will still be able to get one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
torquay nezza Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 newcastle = rubbish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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