What attributes affect Free-kicks?

I mean obvously the free-kick taking stat is important but surely some other stats come into play like technique?

I would imagine Technique, Finishing, Long Shots, Composure, Concentration and Balance would also matter.

That's for direct free kicks, of course.

yeah, I was mainly thinking direct free-kicks. I have a certain Standard Liege Belgian CM (don't wanna say his name). He's my free-kick taker with 15, but his finishing is 8 and his long shots are also 8. He never, ever scores them.

Assuming you trust the manual

A good free-kick taker will also have good Crossing if the attempts are not direct at goal, since the freekick will likely be put into a dangerous offensive area. If the shot is direct on goal, Long Shots may come into consideration depending on the distance, and a good Technique may be required. High Composure and Concentration are often seen in the best dead-ball specialists, so try and piece these attributes together as best you can to find the ideal free-kick takers.

Free Kick Taking This reflects how good at taking free kicks the player is. It applies to both direct shots at goal and deliveries into dangerous areas from wider or deeper positions. A player who is proficient in taking free kicks can be a valuable commodity - scoring five free kicks a season and adding five more assists from them can be a huge bonus.

To be honest I'm not sure if I do trust it. It said the same for 07 where I had a DM with 20 FK and around 6 for crossing, but he racked up free kick assists like there was no tomorrow.

your basic one is free kicks 20 and your away

Freekick taking, technique, decisions - for all

Crossing/passing helps if you're crossing them into the box

Long shots helps if you're shooting from range

Also the various PPMs can strongly affect quality and type of freekicks

Is takes free-kicks with power any good as a PPM?

It means they'll be less accurate in my experience

I know that the 'shoots with power' PPM is pretty useless after having to put up with Oba Martins in my side for a season. So it seems as though the 'takes free-kicks with power' is similar to that.

Anyone got any players who they've experienced to have a high rate of success with from free-kicks? Please put their names in a spoiler.

David Beckham

In my team I have player X:

Crossing 14, free kick taking 16, technique 14, composure 16, concentration 14.

Player X, the poor bastard, despite his stats, can't score from a free kick to save his life if he tries a million times over. Really, he positively never scores from them.

I also have player Y:

Crossing 13, free kick taking 16, technique 14, composure 13, concentration 14.

Player Y is my top direct free kick taker. He curls them in left, right, and center like he's the second coming of Juninho P. himself.

Whatever the difference is between players X and Y, it's clearly none of these stats. The only other stat I can possibly imagine making a difference is creativity, where player Y scores 13 to X's 11. But come on, it couldn't really be that either. This is actually starting to bug me, not least since I'm about to need a new free kick taker, as Y isn't getting any younger, and no one else on my team are showing much talent at banging it in either...

Edit: Oh, and none of them have any free kick-related PPM's either. Player Y only has "dwells on ball".

Edit again: Player X does score a lowly 7 on decicions, though, where Y has 12. Perhaps decicions is the clincher.

Blinkenlights Faxlore: What about their long shots, finishing and decision attributes?

In my team I have player X:

Crossing 14, free kick taking 16, technique 14, composure 16, concentration 14.

Player X, the poor bastard, despite his stats, can't score from a free kick to save his life if he tries a million times over. Really, he positively never scores from them.

I also have player Y:

Crossing 13, free kick taking 16, technique 14, composure 13, concentration 14.

Player Y is my top direct free kick taker. He curls them in left, right, and center like he's the second coming of Juninho P. himself.

Whatever the difference is between players X and Y, it's clearly none of these stats. The only other stat I can possibly imagine making a difference is creativity, where player Y scores 13 to X's 11. But come on, it couldn't really be that either.

This is actually starting to bug me, not least since I'm about to need a new free kick taker, as Y isn't getting any younger, and no one else on my team are showing much talent at banging it in either...

Edit: Oh, and none of them have any free kick-related PPM's either. Player Y only has "dwells on ball".

Screenies of each?

David Beckham

Oi! put it in a spoiler!

Just kidding;)

you want a free kick man gota go with srna

you want a free kick man gota go with

Spoiler tags?

To see some good set peice takers have a look in the following thread;

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=95945&highlight=free+kicks

I think it's well worth someone setting up an experiment and comparing the success of free-kicks with a couple of players. I'm not sure how you'd go about it though.

oops sorry lads!

JESUS HORNBY <3

oh dear bluemoon, you complete tard

yes i am a tard u monk

Blinkenlights Faxlore: What about their long shots, finishing and decision attributes?

Screenies of each?

Player X:

long shots 16

finishing 10

decicions 7

Player Y:

long shots 13

finishing 10

decicions 12

Er, what the heck, screenies (with the players nicknamed for your convenience):

Yeah, I'm thinking it's decicions making the difference. Spotting anything else in there that could be it?

Edit: Er, oh yeah, and pay no mind to the bizarre Scandinavian currency in the value field.

Decisions is a big factor, I'm also going to throw two more things randomly into the mix which is experience (age) and strength as a phyiscal attribute - I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that strength can affect how hard a player can hit the ball

They're useful cheers:THUP:

Could bravery or aggression have anything to do with it perhaps? Decisions as well.

Both those guys are different foot. Do you have one take them on one side and the other on the other side?

Decisions is a big factor, I'm also going to throw two more things randomly into the mix which is experience (age) and strength as a phyiscal attribute - I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that strength can affect how hard a player can hit the ball

Could explain why that Montenegran atttacking midfielder who plays fot spoting lisbon is so good.

Both those guys are different foot. Do you have one take them on one side and the other on the other side?

Good point. I actually did experiment with that for a bit, first with the left footer from the left and the right footer from the right, and then switching, but as far as I can tell it appears to make precisely no noticeable difference at all.

There's also the case of, well, luck...

Balance

...is another one where there's a large difference, of course. I should get out a real time editor and do some testing...

... got 22 goals in 32(7) games for me last season. Don't think any more than one or two of those weren't free kicks.

He gets so many direct freekicks, also quite good at indirect freekicks. He's score direct freekicks from 40 yards and scored some vital goals in the champs league.

I think the main reason behind him bending them like beckham is not having 'Hits freekicks with power' PPM. Also high freekick stat, technique, concentration, composure, not bad finishing and long shots. I feel the mental stats are the most important, with the high freekick stat obviously.

EDIT: Also reading more into it, his high strength, decisions and balance could go towards why hes so good at freekicks

I’m always interested about the set-piece attributes, as it’s still debatable over which attributes, if any work alongside them.

I don’t think any of the suggestions here are unthinkable, but are they really linked to set pieces, or do none of them matter and the only attribute is the actual one that combines everything into one rating?

Penalty taking is another attribute which had numerous theories over what other attributes should be considered when assigning a penalty taker. You could argue that composure, finishing technique, pressure, decisions and others could all factor in, but what if they don’t have any bearing whatsoever and the only stat that determines whether someone is a good penalty taker is the penalty taking attribute?

I think that the set-piece attributes are there to differentiate between set-piece takers and normal players. So a center back with high concentration and composure cant bend it like Beckham.

I think 'decisions' rating has a lot to do with it and is something I look for in my players.

Jimbokav did a great write up on just this for FM07, I think it's in TT&F now. Hold on.