IbrahimAliMaher Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 I was surprised to see that Leicester were managing to attract so many top players when I'm struggling to attract reasonably good players. I am at Watford in the Championship, Leicester have just won league 1. I thought it might have something to do with my manager rep, so thought I'd compare the Leicester manager's rep (Tony Mowbray), see here: http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tonymowbrayprofiledo8.png Imagine my surprise in finding Mowbray has a continental rep, despite his FM record being two years at West Brom (sacked), 3 months at Middlesbro (sacked), 1 season at Leicester (league 1 title). As far as I'm aware he was no great shakes as a player either, any suggestions as to why he's so highly revered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrahimAliMaher Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I was surprised to see that Leicester were managing to attract so many top players when I'm struggling to attract reasonably good players. I am at Watford in the Championship, Leicester have just won league 1. I thought it might have something to do with my manager rep, so thought I'd compare the Leicester manager's rep (Tony Mowbray), see here: http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tonymowbrayprofiledo8.png Imagine my surprise in finding Mowbray has a continental rep, despite his FM record being two years at West Brom (sacked), 3 months at Middlesbro (sacked), 1 season at Leicester (league 1 title). As far as I'm aware he was no great shakes as a player either, any suggestions as to why he's so highly revered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullion1 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 his time at hibs weren't a total failure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrahimAliMaher Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Yeah, but I don't think in Milan, Madrid or Barcelona they were all sat around saying 'who eez zis Toe-nay Mow-bray? We must av eem as our manager!' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Nick Habershon Posted February 29, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted February 29, 2008 No great shakes as a player? He was captain of Middlesborough in his early twenties, played for them for ten years and was integral in getting them back to the top division. After a spell at Celtic he finished his career as captain of Ipswich and scored our equaliser against Barnsley at Wembley in the play-off final when we got back into the top flight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I agree with the OP, Tony mowbray was a donkey of a player... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Bednar Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 There's only one Tony Mowbray one Tony Mowbray walking along singing a song sh*tting on the wanderers as we gooooo. The guy is class I'm not bein biased honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maviarab Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 He was Enlgand manager in my game - 2014. Got knocked out 2nd round. Didn't get sacked. I think he has dirt on someone... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncfcgee Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 That career wouldn't be enough to get him a continental rating, a national rating yes but continental absolutely no way. Ippy (booo) are hardly known around Europe and Boro certainly weren't when he was there and when he was at Celtic it was Rangers turn for domination at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by IbrahimAliMaher: I was surprised to see that Leicester were managing to attract so many top players when I'm struggling to attract reasonably good players. I am at Watford in the Championship, Leicester have just won league 1. I thought it might have something to do with my manager rep, so thought I'd compare the Leicester manager's rep (Tony Mowbray), see here: http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tonymowbrayprofiledo8.png Imagine my surprise in finding Mowbray has a continental rep, despite his FM record being two years at West Brom (sacked), 3 months at Middlesbro (sacked), 1 season at Leicester (league 1 title). As far as I'm aware he was no great shakes as a player either, any suggestions as to why he's so highly revered? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> The Tony Mowbray in that screen is from 2010. In my save, I took over West Brom at the start of the season, and Mowbray went to Southampton. I'm currently first in the table, and he's currently second. He's still got national rep, though, which is about right. This is in Jan 2008. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 The thing is why would Mowbray only be known in England (National) when he spent a bit of time in Scotland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ATW: The thing is why would Mowbray only be known in England (National) when he spent a bit of time in Scotland? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> So "Continental", as far as the game is concerned, is "UK & Ireland", is it? Rather than Europe? And likewise with I was never too sure about that. I thought that "National" referred to the United Kingdom, Continental referred to Europe as a whole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dreaded Walrus: So "Continental", as far as the game is concerned, is "UK & Ireland", is it? Rather than Europe? And likewise with Scandinavia, South Europe e.t.c. being "continental"? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammyjizz Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 dont slag off tony mowbray, hes a legend. when he was captain at the boro he got us promoted on his own. but yeah continental is a bit excessive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrahimAliMaher Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dreaded Walrus: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dreaded Walrus: So "Continental", as far as the game is concerned, is "UK & Ireland", is it? Rather than Europe? And likewise with Scandinavia, South Europe e.t.c. being "continental"? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Fixed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Surely continental would mean that this person is renowned throughout the entire continent and a house hold name. Similarly, worldwide would suggest everyone who knows anything about football on the planet would've heard of them, e.g. Kaka, Ronaldinho. National would mean that within the footballing 'world' of that nation he is well known. I checked on my game also, he starts with a national rep. So what the hell has he done in the last 3 seasons to make the footballing powerhouses sit up and take notice? Win away at Crewe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man11 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Well when a manager wins a league in FM his reputation normally goes up a rung, so if he was at national when he won league one his reputation would have gone up to continental. For example I had rep of automatic and won Championship with coventry and my reputation went up to national but my assitant manager allready had national rep and went up to continental (which was rather annoying actually). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATW Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dreaded Walrus: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ATW: The thing is why would Mowbray only be known in England (National) when he spent a bit of time in Scotland? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> So "Continental", as far as the game is concerned, is "UK & Ireland", is it? Rather than Europe? And likewise with I was never too sure about that. I thought that "National" referred to the United Kingdom, Continental referred to Europe as a whole. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> No such thing as the Nation of UK & Ireland in Football so that is mis-labled (shocking I know) if that is what it means Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ATW: No such thing as the Nation of UK & Ireland in Football so that is mis-labled (shocking I know) if that is what it means </div></BLOCKQUOTE> If England = National rep, yet Continental rep = Europe, then there obviously has to be a bit of a middle ground between the two, where the game has to display either National or Continental (according to the game, "Regional reputation" means "a region of the country" therefore being below National rep, rather than meaning the same as the definition of region used for the Player Search screen (and scouting screen, and probably others), where "Africa" is one region, as is "Central America", and "UK and Ireland", and "Scandinavia", e.t.c.) I think we both agree that Tony Mowbray is well-known in both Scotland and England (if anything, he may well be more known as a manager in Scotland), but obviously he isn't quite known across the entirety of Europe. Perhaps a (slightly radical) way to solve this issue is to, rather than have a single Reputation score, where a reputation will, at one point, suddenly jump from National to Continental, have the game track reputation separately in each nation, similarly to how it currently tracks Scouting Knowledge. Tony Mowbray would be known to a certain extent in both England and Scotland (and a slightly lesser extent in countries that influenced by those nations, such as Wales, similar to the current scouting model), while, say, Roy Hodgson, would be slightly well known in, Sweden, Switzerland, Denmark and Norway (having spent time managing in those countries), but more well known in Italy for his stints as Inter manager, in the United Arab Emirates and Finland for his time as national manager of those sides, and obviously in England. Like I say, quite a radical proposal, and one that I don't see being noticed and/or implemented any time soon, but it would be interesting to see exactly which countries you, as a manager, are well-known in, just like it's nice to be able to see which countries you personally have knowledge in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeyedunc Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 He's at Spurs in my game and has won the CL at least once. Seems to be a managerial heavyweight in FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by deadeyedunc: He's at Spurs in my game and has won the CL at least once. Seems to be a managerial heavyweight in FM </div></BLOCKQUOTE> And in real life! (Although I am a West Brom fan, so I might be biased) "Melting" Tony Mowbray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rossauskas Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Similar thing happened in my game. By the time I left Hearts for Chelsea, Falkirk Manager John Hughes had a continental rep depsite his biggest achievement being finishing 4th in the SPL. I'd doubt he;d even have a national rep after that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esteban_J88 Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 TM was a no nonsense defender and captain material. Any team would love a player of his passion these days. Greatest achievement - began the huddle at Celtic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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