saint_clark Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 The Glenn Hoddle Academy was established in 2008 by former England international Glenn Hoddle. The academy was set up in memory of his brother Carl, who died at just 40 years old. For those of you who are unfamiliar with the concept of the GHA, let me explain. When Hoddle made the move in to management he started thinking about these players that were being released at 18, 19 and 20. He realised that it wasn't possible to keep them on as the squad would become oversized, but he still believed that it was too soon to judge their ability with any certainty. This thought, this doubt, followed him throughout his managerial career. After leaving Wolverhampton Wanderers in 2006, he set about trying to create an academy in which he would invite the players who get released from Premier League and Championship clubs to come and train, play friendly games against professional teams and, hopefully, try to earn contract with one of the clubs. The facility itself is based in southern Spain; in the Montecastillo Resort in Jerez. The players have shared accommodation in Villas and free use of all the other aspects of the resort. In early 2008, Hoddles dream came to life. His academy took shape and the first group of players were signed up after a series of trial events. His magnificent coaching staff, (Graham Rix, Nigel Spackman, John Gorman, David Beasant and now Inigo Idiakez) lived on site and worked every day to help these youngsters realise their potential. For any other information, and an excellent series of videos relating to the GHA, visit the official website: http://www.glennhoddleacademy.com/ Now, onto the challenge - it is quite a simple one. I have created a database in which the GHA start life in the lowest reaches of Spanish football - Second Division B4. You have a squad of players and coaching staff already. The challenge is simply to see who can achieve the most following Glenn Hoddles dream. The Rules Obivously, you can only sign players who are under the age of 21. You may keep a player signed under the age of 21 UP TO the age of 25. Once they reach that age, you must sell them or release them. You are only allowed to sell players at their value. You may sign under-21 players from any country and any league. This is a slight deviation from the actual GHA. You are not allowed to pay transfer fees for players. Compensation is allowed, but other than that you must transfer as much money as you are allowed into the wage budget. You are not allowed to use players from your youth team. If there was a way to get rid of it, I would have, but i'm not clever enough unfortunately. I will add the database in a little bit, as I just want to do some final checks in case I made any basic errors. When I do get it uploaded, please bear with me - this is my first attempt at a challenge and my first attempt at editing a DB, so if there are any mistakes then please PM me (preferably with a screen shot of what went wrong, if possible) and I will try to sort it out ASAP. I hope that this interests many people, as it's certainly something i've been wanting to try since I read about the academy. Whilst you wait for the DB I suggest you look through the GHA website and watch the videos on there, as they are extremely interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Could we put the academy in England if so I would be up for it. I know irl it's in Spain but it would be better in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_clark Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 If enough people want it to be in England then I will consider it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I am really interested in this idea. And would take it up. I am currently making a database for my own use because I cannot upload/download them. Is anyone else interested in this? Could anyone help me out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 This is what I have done so far; . Created Glenn Hoddle Academy FC and put them in the BSS playing at the Glenn Hoddle stadium . Given them a rep of 5000 . Signed a few of the players that are at the academy irl Anyone help/suggestions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambleten Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 what do you mean by only sell players at their value? no selling for under, or no selling for over, or both? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 not sure what he means either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 think it's an interesting idea, although if you move the club to England then you completely ruin the challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Well I have put them in bss but I suppose I should change it back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambleten Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 i think it would be better in spain tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Could someone make a database and upload it. It would be good to get this going for the OP. I can pm them the details Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambleten Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 at the bottom of the OP it says that he is making the database, so it shouldnt be too long before we can try this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Could someone please give me some info on what rep etc I should give the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Could someone please give me some info on what rep etc I should give the club. think only the OP knows the answer to this question, since it was his idea in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Really want to start this, can anyone help me out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Ian~ Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Really want to start this, can anyone help me out Look in the editor at the reputations of other teams in the division you're going to be in, and then use the average of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Yes but if I do that I won't be able to get players released from big teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Decided to give them a 4000 rep so I will be able to get decent players after first season. I put them in the BSS because of my lack of Spanish football knowledge. I have signed lots of players that are under 21 at the start of the game, all of these were free agents. Most notable is Chris Riley and Adrian Pettigrew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 as I've previously said, putting them in the BSS completely destroys the whole purpose of the challenge. Also the decision to give them a reputation equivalent to most League 1 clubs is ridiculous. I personally wouldn't be interested in this database you've created and would rather wait for the OP to finish his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 If I would have put the rep any lower it would destroy the idea of the challenge. How many players released from big clubs would join a team with a rep of 1000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 If I would have put the rep any lower it would destroy the idea of the challenge. How many players released from big clubs would join a team with a rep of 1000. not true again. I managed to get Chelsea youngster Tom Taiwo to come to my AFC Wimbledon side at the end of the first season when he was released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Well done mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I wasn't trying to make it seem like an achievement, just saying that players that get released by Premier league sides will drop down the divisions. Admittedly AFC Wimbledon probably have the reputation of a BSP club, but it's the same thing in principal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Oh right I thought you were gloating, I see what you mean now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funbags Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 maz why you trying to hijack some1s challenge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I'm not am I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 And I wouldn't use txt(ha ha) speak. I got points for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 maz why you trying to hijack some1s challenge? He obviously hasn't got enough challenges / sign-ups / experiments / stories of his own going on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Nice one kenco great comment, it was really called for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funbags Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 by the way huddersfield wont get promoted next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TanO Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Sounds like a good new idea and very challenging ! Will defo give this a try when you get the db up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_clark Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Oops sorry guys, after a couple of weeks with no replies I didn't bother checking back as I assumed most people weren't interested. With FM10 around the corner (and GHA incorporated into it) this thread and the DB I have stored are pretty useless. Sorry again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Miles would have us believe the GHA is in FM10 due to him bumping into GH on holiday. Now we know it was saint clark's inspiration all along!! I wonder if the new editor will allow you to edit the academy as a playable club into a league in the way you envisage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 It would definitely be fun... that's for sure might have a quick play on the 09 editor see how we go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I've made a DB with this info on it: Club: The Glenn Hoddle Academy Ground: Montecastillo Resort, Jerez, Spain Capacity: (I set it at 0 so it's random cap is) 750 Top Training Facilities, Adequate Youth Facilities, No Youth Academy (The players that come through your youth will be Spanish, due to the stadium being based in Spain) Finances: were all set at 0, so it will be random, but should be enough to cover any compensation fees. Reputation: Like saint clark, I set it to 5000 so the young stars will want to join. They are also currently set as a semi-professional club and all players are on Part-Time contracts. Playing out of the BSS so they have a longer future competition (but too be honest, with player restrictons, Leaue One may be the furtherest you get) Added all the players on the GHA website and also all the staff The ones not on the game, I added using information off of thier biography & FM2010 stats. Ahhhh... What else??? Oh I've done the Logos (Large/Icon/Left(background)) & I've done quick up some quick Kits for them also (Home & Away) I have done a face pack for them but it isn't of high or medium quality so I didn't add it in. If you want this DB and/or Graphics, I'll upload and post it here for all to try. Please note: this is for FM2009 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 ^These are the details I was going to play with. I might try it on 08 or 09. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Do you want me to upload my DB for 09?? Here's some screenies: CLUB INFO LEAGUE TABLE We are not doing as well as expected due to the higher reputation of the club. So the odds for all the games have been around 1-10 to win. So you'll often not live up to the hype Yet I've scored 32 goals in 15 games... but they expect more :| I've signed 3 players after the English Trialist matches on my coaches recommendations. You'll need to sign a Physio & an Ass-Man (if you want them) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFergie Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I'd love a go with the database might put in an extra rule, just for myself, to make it slightly easier: If a player is listed as a legend, icon or favoured personnel, i'll keep him until he is 30, if he is an icon, i'll keep him until he's 35, and if he's a legend, i'll try and hire him as staff when he retires sound good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I actually might add that rule myself... There is currently 2 players over the age of 21 in: Nick Beasant & Paul Harrison I've tried offloading them but won't leave due to recent arrival..blah blah blah. I'll upload the DB in the morning... about to go to bed and my GF will go nuts with her WoW & CS pinging out the buggery I'll upload the logos and kits into the .rar file too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFergie Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 okay, no probs ill be looking forward to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 So what's the max age? I've nearly finished my db. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Heres my DB it also has the the logos in it... I can't remember if I added the kits though Glenn Hoddle Academy DB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFergie Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Heres my DB it also has the the logos in it...I can't remember if I added the kits though Glenn Hoddle Academy DB Thanks mate, its just gone midnight here, so ill give it a go sometime tomorrow thanks again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 No worries.... Let me know what you think of it and if there is anything that might need to be changed or added... Remember, most of the data is set at 0 (random) so the skills of players may differ for each game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_clark Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 Even though I messed up massively by not checking back, i'm glad people are enjoying the idea and someone managed to get the DB up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_clark Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 Miles would have us believe the GHA is in FM10 due to him bumping into GH on holiday. Now we know it was saint clark's inspiration all along!!I wonder if the new editor will allow you to edit the academy as a playable club into a league in the way you envisage. I've already demanded to be credited on the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Even though I messed up massively by not checking back, i'm glad people are enjoying the idea and someone managed to get the DB up. Yeah I didn't mean to jack your Idea but it was a good one... It didn't take too long to throw together but I didn't go right into finer details with every player aspect. but the players are decent enough and could possibly get picked up by other LLC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_clark Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 Yeah I didn't mean to jack your Idea but it was a good one... It didn't take too long to throw together but I didn't go right into finer details with every player aspect. but the players are decent enough and could possibly get picked up by other LLC. Ah well there you go I went right in depth with player history. Well, as in depth as I could... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowcrapup Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Would people be actually interested in giving this ago for FM10? If the OP gives permission of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_clark Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 Would people be actually interested in giving this ago for FM10? If the OP gives permission of course. There's already a GHA in FM10. I'm suing SI, for what it's worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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