Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 THE GREAT PREMIERSHIP EXODUS AIM OF THE EXPERIMENT - To examine the impact of 72 Premiership ‘stars’ and 24 ‘star’ managers if they were placed in the Championship. - To examine how the Premiership teams would react to their loss of stars/manager. - To examine how international squads and line-ups are impacted by reputations of clubs/leagues. DATABASE - The game will be played using an edited large database on Patch 9.3 - Six ‘star’ players from the top four Premiership teams and three ‘star’ players from the rest of the Premiership clubs will be drafted to Championship clubs. - The twenty Premiership managers will be drafted to Championship clubs. - Four international managers (Capello, Burley, Toshack and Trappatoni) will also be drafted to Championship clubs. - The twenty four Championship managers will be drafted to the Premiership teams / international teams. - The wages of the ‘star’ players will be modified to top Championship levels. - The ‘stars’ will all be assigned a future transfer back to their Premiership club after 3-10 years (this will be determined by age to ensure that they will be at an age to impact on their return) so that they will remain at their new club for an appropriate length of time. THE GAME - The game will be played using only the English league down to Championship level. - I will be an unemployed manager in the game using the holiday function. - The ‘star’ players will be determined through advice from other CSE forum members. - The placement of the players will be determined using a random draft. UPDATES - Updates over the next two weeks will probably be more frequent than they will be in the long run. I will aim for one season update every week where possible. Obviously, this will depend on what I need to get done. This will be my first experiment so I am venturing into the unknown as well. QUESTIONS TO CONSIDER - How will the top four teams react to their manager and star player losses? How will they perform in the Champions League and Premiership? How will the other teams Premiership teams perform? Will they catch up and overtake the top four? - Will the Premiership teams sack their managers? If so, who will replace them? - Will the ‘star’ managers stay with their new Championship teams? Will they hold onto their jobs even if they are struggling with their Championship side? - Once we know the drafted players and managers, which teams will be promoted to the Premiership? How much of an impact will the ‘star’ players have? - Will the ‘star’ players retain their places in their national sides despite the lower reputation of their new league and clubs? WHAT NEXT? - Feel free to ask any questions to clarify my experiment. - Please post your opinions on the questions I have posed. - In the next post, I will ask for your opinions about the 'star' players at each Premiership team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 Please could you identify the two star players (current ability, real life) at each Premiership club in your opinion. Please don't include loan players. Please select four for the top four teams. STAR PLAYERS OF EACH CLUB Arsenal - Aston Villa - Blackburn Rovers - Bolton Wanderers - Chelsea - Everton - Fulham - Hull City - Liverpool - Manchester City - Manchester United - Middlesbrough - Newcastle United - Portsmouth - Sunderland - Stoke City - Tottenham Hotspur - West Brom - West Ham - Wigan Athletic - I will allow 'voting' until the Wednesday at 5:00pm unless more time is needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty09 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Hull City- Geovanni, Michael Turner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergysafc Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Sunderland -Jones, Richardson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergysafc Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Manchester United -Ronaldo-Rooney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 My opinion for what it is worth! STAR PLAYERS OF EACH CLUB Arsenal - Fabregas, Adebayor, Toure, Arshavin Aston Villa - Young, Laursen Blackburn Rovers - Santa Cruz, Samba Bolton Wanderers - Jaaskelainen, Davies Chelsea - Drogba, Lampard, Essien, Cech Everton - Arteta, Jagielka Fulham - Hangeland, Johnson Hull City - Geovanni, Myhill Liverpool - Gerrard, Torres, Carragher, Reina Manchester City - Robinho, Richards Manchester United - Ronaldo, Rooney, Vidic, Ferdinand Middlesbrough - Downing, Tuncay Newcastle United - Owen, Gutierrez Portsmouth - Crouch, James Sunderland - Jones, Gordon Stoke City - Beattie, Delap Tottenham Hotspur - Keane, Modric West Brom - Greening, Brunt West Ham - Upson, Parker Wigan Athletic - Valencia, Koumas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergysafc Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Hull City- Geovanni, Michael Turner 2nd it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergysafc Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Gordon sunderland you mad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 Please note changes to how I want the information: - All teams in one post, not individual posts about individual teams. - Four players for the top four. - No loan players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 TaylorB - can you select two more for the big four? And make sure it's two for each team? Just edit your post. Cheers. Please don't question others selections, thats not the point of this. Just select your own please so I can get it set up and started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorB Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Arsenal - Fabregas, Van Persie, Adebayor, Toure Aston Villa - Barry, Young Blackburn Rovers - Samba, Santa Cruz Bolton Wanderers - Davies, Gardner Chelsea - Lampard, Terry, Essien, Drogba Everton - Arteta, Cahill Fulham - Murphy, Davies Hull City - Turner, Cousin Liverpool - Gerrard, Torres, Carragher, Reina Manchester City - Robinho, Given Manchester United - Ronaldo, Rooney, Vidic, Ferdinand Middlesbrough - Tuncay, Downing Newcastle United - Owen, Bassong Portsmouth - Crouch, Krancjar Sunderland - Richardson, Jones Stoke City - Delap:p, Fuller Tottenham Hotspur - Defoe, King West Brom - Koren, Brunt West Ham - Cole, Noble Wigan Athletic - Valencia, Kirkland That's all I can think of.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 STAR PLAYERS OF EACH CLUB Arsenal - Cesc Fabregas, Emmanuel Adebayor, Andrei Arshavin, Kolo Toure Aston Villa - Gareth Barry, Ashley Young Blackburn Rovers - Roque Santa Cruz, Benni McCarthy Bolton Wanderers - Jussi Jaskelainen, Kevin Davies Chelsea - John Terry, Frank Lampard, Michael Essien, Didier Drogba Everton - Tim Cahill, Mikel Arteta Fulham - Danny Murphy, Brede Hangeland Hull City - Geovanni, Michael Turner Liverpool - Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres, Javier Mascherano, Jamie Carragher Manchester City - Robinho, Setephen Ireland Manchester United - Cristiano Ronaldo, Nemanja Vidic, Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand Middlesbrough - Stewart Downing, Emanuel Pogatetz Newcastle United - Michael Owen, Steven Taylor Portsmouth - Peter Crouch, Glen Johnson Sunderland - Kenwyne Jones, Kieran Richardson Stoke City - Rory Delap, Abdoulaye Faye Tottenham Hotspur - Ledley King, Robbie Keane West Brom - Robinson, Koren West Ham - Carlton Cole, Scott Parker Wigan Athletic - Antonio Valencia, Maynor Figueroa Interesting idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 Arsenal - Fabregas, Van Persie, Adebayor, ToureAston Villa - Barry, Young Blackburn Rovers - Samba, Santa Cruz Bolton Wanderers - Davies, Gardner Chelsea - Lampard, Terry, Essien, Drogba Everton - Arteta, Cahill Fulham - Murphy, Davies Hull City - Turner, Cousin Liverpool - Gerrard, Torres, Carragher, Reina Manchester City - Robinho, Given Manchester United - Ronaldo, Rooney, Vidic, Ferdinand Middlesbrough - Tuncay, Downing Newcastle United - Owen, Bassong Portsmouth - Crouch, Krancjar Sunderland - Cisse, Jones Stoke City - Delap:p, Fuller Tottenham Hotspur - Defoe, King West Brom - Fortune, Brunt West Ham - Cole, Noble Wigan Athletic - Valencia, Kirkland That's all I can think of.. Two for each team. No loan players. Please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 STAR PLAYERS OF EACH CLUBArsenal - Cesc Fabregas, Emmanuel Adebayor Aston Villa - Gareth Barry, Ashley Young Blackburn Rovers - Roque Santa Cruz, Benni McCarthy Bolton Wanderers - Jussi Jaskelainen, Kevin Davies Chelsea - John Terry, Frank Lampard Everton - Tim Cahill, Mikel Arteta Fulham - Danny Murphy, Brede Hangeland Hull City - Geovanni, Michael Turner Liverpool - Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres Manchester City - Robinho, Setephen Ireland Manchester United - Cristiano Ronaldo, Nemanja Vidic Middlesbrough - Stewart Downing, Emanuel Pogatetz Newcastle United - Michael Owen, Steven Taylor Portsmouth - Peter Crouch, Glen Johnson Sunderland - Kenwyne Jones, Djibril Cisse Stoke City - Rory Delap, Faye? (I think that is their big CB, am I right?) Tottenham Hotspur - Ledley King, Robbie Keane West Brom - Jason Koumas, Koren West Ham - Carlton Cole, Scott Parker Wigan Athletic - Antonio Valencia, Luciano Figueroa Interesting idea Cheers. There are two Fayes at Stoke - Amdy and Abdoulaye? Also could you add two more to each big club and make sure loans aren't included (i.e. Cisse at Sunderland) - cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergysafc Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Arsenal - Fabregas, Adebayor, Narsi, Arshavin Aston Villa - Young, Laursen Blackburn Rovers - Santa Cruz, Samba Bolton Wanderers - Jaaskelainen, Davies Chelsea - Drogba, Lampard, Essien, Cech Everton - Arteta, Jagielka Fulham - Johnson, Murphey Hull City - Geovanni, Turner Liverpool - Gerrard, Torres, Reina,Carragher Manchester City - Robinho, Richards Manchester United - Ronaldo, Rooney, Vidic, Ferdinand Middlesbrough - Downing, Tuncay Newcastle United - Owen, Martains Portsmouth - Crouch, James Sunderland - Jones, Richarson Stoke City - Beattie, Delap Tottenham Hotspur - Keane, Bently West Brom - Cech, Brunt West Ham - Upson, Dyer Wigan Athletic - Valencia, Koumas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Which one of them is the captain? Is one of them the captain, actually? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 Arsenal - Fabregas, Adebayor, Narsi, ArshavinAston Villa - Young, Laursen Blackburn Rovers - Santa Cruz, Samba Bolton Wanderers - Jaaskelainen, Davies Chelsea - Drogba, Lampard, Essien, Cech Everton - Arteta, Jagielka Fulham - Johnson, Murphey Hull City - Geovanni, Turner Liverpool - Gerrard, Torres, Reina Manchester City - Robinho, Richards Manchester United - Ronaldo, Rooney, Vidic, Ferdinand Middlesbrough - Downing, Tuncay Newcastle United - Owen, Martains Portsmouth - Crouch, James Sunderland - Jones, Richarson Stoke City - Beattie, Delap Tottenham Hotspur - Keane, Bently West Brom - Cech, Brunt West Ham - Upson, Dyer Wigan Athletic - Valencia, Koumas One more for Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorB Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Two for each team. No loan players. Please! Thought Sunderland signed Cisse in January. Obviously not:( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergysafc Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 One more for Liverpool. opps missed that i edited my post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 Which one of them is the captain? Is one of them the captain, actually? Abdoulaye Faye is the centre half. Amdy Faye is the midfielder who sometimes plays centre half! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergysafc Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I put Carragher for last one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Have made all my changes, somehow I thought Koumas was still at West Brom, have changed that as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty09 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 star players for each club Arsenal - Fabregas,Nasri,Arshavin,Adebayor Aston Villa - Young,Agbonlahor Blackburn Rovers - Santa Cruz, Nelsen Bolton Wanderers -K Davies, Matty Taylor Chelsea - Lampard,Anelka,Drogba,Petr Cech Everton - Cahill,Yakubu Fulham - Andy Johnson,Hangeland Hull City -Bullard,Geovanni Liverpool -Gerrard,Torres,Carragher,Reina Manchester City - Robinho,Wright-Phillips Manchester United - Ronaldo,Rooney,Vidic,Berbatov Middlesbrough - Downing,Tuncay Newcastle United - Owen,Gutierrez Portsmouth - Crouch,James Sunderland - K Jones,Malbranque Stoke City - Delap,Beattie Tottenham Hotspur - Keane,Lennon, West Brom - Valero,Ishmael Miller West Ham - Upson,Ashton Wigan Athletic - Zaki,Valencia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I assume by 'Top 4' you mean Arsenal, Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool. (Hey, cannot be too sure. ) Arsenal - Emmanuel Adebayor, Cesc Fabregas, Robin van Persie, Theo Walcott Aston Villa - Gabriel Agbonlahor, Ashley Young Blackburn Rovers - Roque Santa Cruz, Benni McCarthy Bolton Wanderers - Kevin Davies, Jussi Jaaskelainen Chelsea - Michael Essien, Frank Lampard, John Terry, Petr Cech Everton - Mikel Arteta, Tim Cahill Fulham - Andrew Johnson, Zoltan Gera Hull City - Geovanni, Daniel Cousin Liverpool - Fernando Torres, Steven Gerrard, Xabi Alonso, Jamie Carragher Manchester City - Robinho, Vincent Kompany Manchester United - Cristiano Ronaldo, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Edwin van der Sar Middlesbrough - Tuncay, Jeremie Aliadiere (clutching at straws a bit here :o) Newcastle United - Michael Owen, Obafemi Martins Portsmouth - Sol Campbell, Peter Crouch Sunderland - Craig Gordon, Steed Malbranque Stoke City - Rory Delap, Thomas Sorensen Tottenham Hotspur - Robbie Keane, Luka Modric West Brom - Marek Cech, Scott Carson West Ham - Diego Tristan, Dean Ashton Wigan Athletic - Chris Kirkland, Titus Bramble (The last one is a bit of a joke entry btw. :o) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 Yeah, thats the four I mean! Titus Bramble? By all accounts, he has been playing well hasn't he? Wigan are certainly doing well with him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyriddle Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Arsenal - Fabregas, Arshavin, Adebayor, Persie Aston Villa - Agbonlahor, Barry Blackburn Rovers - Santa Cruz, McCarthy Bolton Wanderers -K Davies, Cahill Chelsea - Lampard ,Terry, Drogba, Petr Cech Everton - Cahill, Arteta Fulham - Gera ,Hangeland Hull City -Bullard, Geovanni Liverpool -Gerrard, Torres, Carragher, Reina Manchester City - Robinho,Wright-Phillips Manchester United - Welbeck, Possebon, Macheda, Kuzcask Middlesbrough - Downing, Tuncay Newcastle United - Owen, Martins Portsmouth - Crouch, Campbell Sunderland - Gordon, Malbranque Stoke City - Delap, Beattie Tottenham Hotspur - Modric, Lennon West Brom - Carson, Valero West Ham - Ashton, Parker Wigan Athletic - Figueroa, Valencia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_lampard Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Arsenal - Cesc Fabregas, Emmanuel Adebayor, Andrey Arshavin, Gael Clichy Aston Villa - Ashley Young, Gareth Barry Blackburn Rovers - Roque Santa Cruz, Stephen Warnock Bolton Wanderers - Matt Taylor, Kevin Davies Chelsea - John Terry, Frank Lampard, Petr Cech, Didier Drogba Everton - Tim Cahill, Mikel Arteta Fulham - Danny Murphy, Brede Hangeland Hull City - Jimmy Bullard, Michael Turner Liverpool - Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres, Jose Reina, Jamie Carragher Manchester City - Robinho, Setephen Ireland Manchester United - Cristiano Ronaldo, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Nemanja Vidic Middlesbrough - Stewart Downing, David Wheater Newcastle United - Michael Owen, Steven Taylor Portsmouth - Peter Crouch, David James Sunderland - Kenwyne Jones, Kieran Richardson Stoke City - James Beattie, Ryan Shawcross Tottenham Hotspur - Jermaine Jenas, Robbie Keane West Brom - Ishmael Miller, Chris Brunt West Ham - Robert Green, Matthew Upson Wigan Athletic - Luis Antonio Valencia, Maynor Figueroa Nice idea mate could be quite interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Arsenal - Cesc Fabregas, RVP, Andrey Arshavin, Gael Clichy Aston Villa - Ashley Young, Gareth Barry Blackburn Rovers - Roque Santa Cruz, MGP Bolton Wanderers - Matt Taylor, Kevin Davies Chelsea - John Terry, Frank Lampard, Petr Cech, Michael Essien Everton - Tim Cahill, Mikel Arteta Fulham - Danny Murphy, Brede Hangeland Hull City - Jimmy Bullard, Geovani Liverpool - Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres, Jose Reina, Xabi Alonso Manchester City - Robinho, Stephen Ireland Manchester United - Cristiano Ronaldo, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Nemanja Vidic Middlesbrough - Stewart Downing, Sanli Tuncay Newcastle United - Michael Owen, Steven Taylor Portsmouth - Peter Crouch, Glen Johnson Sunderland - Kenwyne Jones, Kieran Richardson Stoke City - James Beattie, Rory Delap Tottenham Hotspur - Luka Modric, Wilson Palacios West Brom - Chris Brunt, Scott Carson West Ham - Scott Parker, Valon Behrami Wigan Athletic - Luis Antonio Valencia, Amir Zaki Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 Thanks for all the opinions. Keep them coming! I'm not going to ask people to change their votes no more - got bored of it! Remember: No loan players (particularly watch out for Zaki, Cisse, Jo etc ...) 4 players for the big four 2 for the rest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Wales_Man Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Arsenal - Cesc Fabregas, Kolo Toure, Adebayor, Walcott Aston Villa - Martin Laursen, Gareth Barry Blackburn Rovers - Roque Santa Cruz, Ryan Nelson Bolton Wanderers - Matt Taylor, Kevin Davies Chelsea - John Terry, Frank Lampard, Petr Cech, Michael Essien Everton - Tim Cahill, Mikel Arteta Fulham - Danny Murphy, Brede Hangeland Hull City - Jimmy Bullard, Geovani Liverpool - Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres, Jose Reina, Xabi Alonso Manchester City - Robinho, Micah Richards Manchester United - Cristiano Ronaldo, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Nemanja Vidic Middlesbrough - Stewart Downing, Sanli Tuncay Newcastle United - Kevin Nolan, Steven Taylor Portsmouth - Niko Krankjar, Glen Johnson Sunderland - Kenwyne Jones, Anton Ferdinand Stoke City - James Beattie, Olifinjhana(sp) Tottenham Hotspur - Luka Modric, Jonathan Woodgate West Brom - Jonathon Greening, Scott Carson West Ham - Scott Parker, Mark Noble Wigan Athletic - Luis Antonio Valencia, N'Zogbia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wegason Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Arsenal - Fabregas, Adebayor, Toure, Arshavin Aston Villa - Barry, Carew Blackburn Rovers - Santa Cruz, Samba Bolton Wanderers - Jaaskelainen, Davies Chelsea - Terry, Lampard, Essien, Cech Everton - Yakubu, Arteta Fulham - Hangeland, Murphy Hull City - Geovanni, Myhill Liverpool - Gerrard, Torres, Alonso, Reina Manchester City - Robinho, Richards Manchester United - Ronaldo, Rooney, Vidic, Ferdinand Middlesbrough - Downing, Tuncay Newcastle United - Owen, Gutierrez Portsmouth - Crouch, James Sunderland - Jones, Gordon Stoke City - Beattie, Delap Tottenham Hotspur - Lennon, Modric West Brom - Greening, Brunt West Ham - Upson, Parker Wigan Athletic - Valencia, Koumas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 Need some more suggestions for star players guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboJen Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Arsenal - Fabregas, Adebayor, Eduardo, Arshavin Aston Villa - Barry, Abonglahor Blackburn Rovers - Santa Cruz, McCarthy Bolton Wanderers - Davies, Jaaskelainen Chelsea - Drogba, Lampard, Terry, Essien Everton - Arteta, Lescott Fulham - Johnson, Hangeland Hull City - Turner, Geovanni Liverpool - Gerrard, Torres, Alonso, Reina Manchester City - Robinho, Ireland Manchester United - Ronaldo, Rooney, Ferdinand, Vidic Middlesbrough - Downing, Tuncay Newcastle United - Gutierrez, Martins Portsmouth - James, Kranjcar Sunderland - Richardson, Gordon Stoke City - Fuller, Beattie Tottenham Hotspur - Pavyluchenko, Keane West Brom - Morrison, Brunt West Ham - Ashton, Green Wigan Athletic - Valencia, Scharner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboJen Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Interesting how similar a lot of the responses are. Maybe the EPL doesn't have as many star players as everyone thinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan13 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Arsenal - Fabregas, Adebayor, Toure, Arshavin Aston Villa - Young, Abonglahor Blackburn Rovers - Santa Cruz, Samba Bolton Wanderers - Jaaskelainen, Davies Chelsea - Drogba, Lampard, Essien, Cech Everton - Arteta, Cahill Fulham - Johnson, Murphey Hull City - Geovanni, Turner Liverpool - Gerrard, Torres, Reina, Carragher Manchester City - Robinho, Ireland Manchester United - Ronaldo, Rooney, Vidic, Ferdinand Middlesbrough - Downing, Tuncay Newcastle United - Owen, Martains Portsmouth - Crouch, James Sunderland - Jones, Richarson Stoke City - Beattie, Delap Tottenham Hotspur - Keane, Modric West Brom - Cech, Brunt West Ham - Upson, Neil Wigan Athletic - Valencia, Koumas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Interesting how similar a lot of the responses are. Maybe the EPL doesn't have as many star players as everyone thinks. 'Stars' is subjective. A lot of smaller clubs only have one or two really quality players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Interesting how similar a lot of the responses are. Maybe the EPL doesn't have as many star players as everyone thinks. It would be the same in any league. Most clubs have 1 or 2 players/stars who the fans believe are the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 7, 2009 Author Share Posted April 7, 2009 Interesting how similar a lot of the responses are. Maybe the EPL doesn't have as many star players as everyone thinks. Or the star players at each club are very obvious?! Started tallying up last night and their are few surprises amongst the big four. The stand out players are clear to everyone. What will be interesting is how the clubs react to losing six of these in the experiment. If the 'stars' are that obvious, it maybe doesn't say that much for the rest - particularly Man United and Chelsea who have only had six suggested so far. Is it a case that Man United and Chelsea rely on their big six? I've had more suggestions for Arsenal - does that mean the Gunners will suffer less when they lose their big six? It is interesting to see the teams where the votes are very similar - Boro and Bolton. Very few suggestions and runaway leaders. I'm thinking these might be the teams to suffer most. On the flip side, West Brom have lots of suggestions and only one runaway choice. Maybe it won't affect them so much? Predictions Arsenal to win the league. West Brom to stay up. Boro and Bolton to go down. Chelsea and Man United to struggle to make Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboJen Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Or the star players at each club are very obvious?!Started tallying up last night and their are few surprises amongst the big four. The stand out players are clear to everyone. What will be interesting is how the clubs react to losing six of these in the experiment. If the 'stars' are that obvious, it maybe doesn't say that much for the rest - particularly Man United and Chelsea who have only had six suggested so far. Is it a case that Man United and Chelsea rely on their big six? I've had more suggestions for Arsenal - does that mean the Gunners will suffer less when they lose their big six? It is interesting to see the teams where the votes are very similar - Boro and Bolton. Very few suggestions and runaway leaders. I'm thinking these might be the teams to suffer most. On the flip side, West Brom have lots of suggestions and only one runaway choice. Maybe it won't affect them so much? Predictions Arsenal to win the league. West Brom to stay up. Boro and Bolton to go down. Chelsea and Man United to struggle to make Champions League. Maybe I didn't put it as well as I could have. I just thought that before you'd maybe have thought there would be a wider spread of votes than there's turned out to be. Take Man United and Liverpool for example, fighting for the Premiership you'd maybe think they'd be very strong throughout the squad but I think almost every vote has gone for the same four players. They don't have two standouts followed by five or six players all staking a claim to be the club's third and fourth most important players, they tend to have two stand outs and then another two very good players. The part I've highlighted in your post is basically the point I was trying to make, but clearly I should have made it a bit more detailed. There's also a lot of goalkeepers being picked and they will be a lot harder to replace, especially for the smaller clubs, when they're taken out. I'm definately interested to see how the League will turn out with the star players gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 7, 2009 Author Share Posted April 7, 2009 There's also a lot of goalkeepers being picked and they will be a lot harder to replace, especially for the smaller clubs, when they're taken out. There may be a lot of goalkeepers suggested BUT there are not many goalkeepers looking likely to moved/drafted. Jaaskelainen, Cech, Reina and Gordon are looking likely - maybe James and Carson too - but out of 72 drafted, thats not so many. Bolton, again, may struggle to replace Jaaskelainen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB-forever Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 My votes: Arsenal - Francesc Fabregas, Kolo Touré, Samir Nasri, Emmanuel Adebayor Aston Villa - Ashley Young, Gareth Barry Blackburn Rovers - Christopher Samba, Roque Santa Cruz Bolton Wanderers - Kevin Davies, Jussi Jääskeläinen Chelsea - Petr Cech, Frank Lampard, John Terry, Nicolas Anelka Everton - Joleon Lescott, Mikel Arteta Fulham - Brede Hangeland, Danny Murphy Hull City - Geovanni, Daniel Cousin Liverpool - Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres, Javier Mascherano, José Manuel Reina Manchester City - Shaun Wright-Phillips, Robinho Manchester United - Rio Ferdinand, Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney, Nemanja Vidic Middlesbrough - Sanli Tuncay, Stewart Downing Newcastle United - Michael Owen, Jonás Gutierrez Portsmouth - David James, Peter Crouch Sunderland - Rory Delap, Abdoulaye Faye Stoke City - Kieran Richardson, Kenwyne Jones Tottenham Hotspur - Wilson Palacios, Robbie Keane West Brom - Chris Brunt, Scott Carson West Ham - Robert Green, Matthew Upson Wigan Athletic - Chris Kirkland, Antonio Valencia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRDH Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Arsenal - Fabregas, van Persie, Adebayor, Clichy Aston Villa - Young, Barry Blackburn Rovers - Santa Cruz, Samba Bolton Wanderers - Davies, Elmander Chelsea - Drogba, Terry, Lampard, Cech Everton - Cahill, Arteta Fulham - Hangeland, Schwarzer Hull City - Geovanni, Turner Liverpool - Gerrard, Torres, Reina, Carragher Manchester City - Robinho, Bellamy Manchester United - Ronaldo, Rooney, Vidic, Ferdinand Middlesbrough - Downing, Tuncay Newcastle United - Owen, Martins Portsmouth - Crouch, Johnson Sunderland - Jones, Richardson Stoke City - Delap, Beattie Tottenham Hotspur - Keane, King West Brom - Brunt, Greening West Ham - Parker, Upson Wigan Athletic - Valencia, Bramble Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_W Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Arsenal - Fabregas, Adebayor, Arshavin, Toure Aston Villa - Young, Barry Blackburn Rovers - Samba, Warnock Bolton Wanderers - Elmander, Davies Chelsea - Ballack, Cech, Lampard, Terry Everton - Arteta, Cahill Fulham - Dempsey, Murphy Hull City - Geovanni, Turner Liverpool - Gerrard, Torres, Carragher, Arbeola Manchester City - Robinho, Given Manchester United - Rooney, Ronaldo, Vidic, Evra Middlesbrough - Downing, Tuncay Newcastle United - Owen, S. Taylor Portsmouth - Kranjcar, Crouch Sunderland - Jones, Richardson Stoke City - Shawcross, Beattie Tottenham Hotspur - Modric, Woodgate West Brom - Koren, Brunt West Ham - Carlton Cole, Lucas Neill Wigan Athletic - Valencia, Scharner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 STAR PLAYERS OF EACH CLUB Arsenal - Adebayor, Fabregas Aston Villa - Young, Agbonlahor Blackburn Rovers - Santa Cruz, Samba Bolton Wanderers - Kevin Davies, Jaaskelainen Chelsea - Anelka, Terry Everton - Cahill, Arteta Fulham - Hangeland, Danny Murphy Hull City - Geovanni, Turner Liverpool - Gerrard, Torres Manchester City - Robinho, Ireland Manchester United - Ronaldo, Rooney Middlesbrough - Downing, Tuncay Newcastle United - Gutierrez, Steven Taylor Portsmouth - Crouch, David James Sunderland - Kenwyne Jones, Keiran Richardson Stoke City - Delap, Beattie Tottenham Hotspur - Modric, Bale West Brom - Carson, Koren West Ham - Robert Green, Carlton Cole Wigan Athletic - Valencia, Kirkland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 You could always go into the editor and pick players with highest CA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 You could always go into the editor and pick players with highest CA Hmm could have done. But this way, we get peoples ideas of who will be the biggest misses. There will be attributes that will affect this other than their CA - PA, ambition, determination etc ... Voting is now closed. I'll tally up and let you all know who is going to be heading for the Championship very soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Chip Butty Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 The link below takes you to the thread where the experiment starts. Thanks for your votes. Hope you enjoy. Clicky Clicky Do I need to ask for this thread closing now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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