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it's always a matter of getting 90 points plus, rather than the more realistic, real-life 80 points plus. Makes it unrealistically hard to win the league I think.

Last season IRL was like

Man Utd 89p

Chelsea 85p

Arsenal 83p

In the game, though, Chelsea always have scraped 91-97p together last 4 seasons. I came second with 89p on one occation. Obviuosly the problem was bigger in 9.1 with Arsenal around, but it still needs a minor tune I think. This goes for the spanish league as well. The winner ALWAYS has something like 95-98 points.

Anyone agree?

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This seems to be an issue in most leagues I have played in.

The top four teams regularly seem to go unbeaten for extended periods and its not unusual to see 100+ points on the board ..

It doesnt always happen, and seems to stop happening quite so much when your own team starts to improve and you get draws or wins that dent the 'on a roll' code for 'form' teams, but it can be irritating.

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Top 6 usually have around 60+ points, top 3 often in the 70 and the winner pushes top 80 for me usually. When arsenal dominated they were usually always at 90 with the team in 2nd at 70. Now im in the league and 9.03 kicked in Man Utd are dominating, but thats cause their youth have now grown into amazing players.

Its more realistic since 9.03 I think.

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Top 6 usually have around 60+ points, top 3 often in the 70 and the winner pushes top 80 for me usually. When arsenal dominated they were usually always at 90 with the team in 2nd at 70. Now im in the league and 9.03 kicked in Man Utd are dominating, but thats cause their youth have now grown into amazing players.

Its more realistic since 9.03 I think.

okay, for me Chelsea jhave dominated in 9.3. They have won all 4 seasons with 90+ as i mentioned. Maybe it's different from save to save but i find it very annoying, bearing the last ten irl-seasons in mind. I mean, even when Arsenal went a whole season unbeaten, which is a fasntastic season, they still "just" managed 90 points. 90 points should be some sort of realistic limit. Not a scripted limit of course, but teams should fins it harder to get there! as it is now it's a routine for the Premier League winner.

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To be fair, winning the league isn't easy anyway but i've noticed the good teams are really good and the bad teams are really bad.. bottom 6/7 teams struggle to make over 25 points where in real life they're usually in the early 40s.

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2008/2009: 96 - Arsenal

2009/2010: 92 - Man Utd

2010/2011: 84 - Arsenal

2011/2012: 82 - Arsenal

2012/2013: 87 - Arsenal

2013/2014: 82 - Man Utd

2014/2015: 82 - Arsenal

2015/2016: 80 - Arsenal

2016/2017: 86 - Arsenal

2017/2018: 79 - Arsenal

2018/2019: 83 - Man City

2019/2020: 78 - Arsenal

2020/2021: 78 - Chelsea

2021/2022: 81 - Arsenal

2022/2023: 78 - Man City

2023/2024: 75 - Newcastle

2024/2025: 75 - Arsenal

2025/2026: 92 - Arsenal

2026/2027: 79 - Man City

2027/2028: 83 - Tottenham

2028/2029: 91 - Arsenal

2029/2030: 74 - Tottenham

2030/2031: 76 - Bolton

2031/2032: 72 - Man City

2032/2033: 80 - Solihull Moors

2033/2034: 95 - Solihull Moors

2034/2035: 85 - Solihull Moors

2035/2036: 89 - Arsenal

2036/2037: 85 - Solihull Moors

2037/2038: 81 - Solihull Moors

2038/2039: 25 matches played, Solihull Moors leading - 71 points

5 times in 30 completed season have the champions had over 90 points. Dont seem too unrealistic to me..

When it comes to relegation, I dont know what is realistic, but the lowest points needed to stay up was 28 and the highest 48. Usually the team who stays up have something in the lower 30s.

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buggar me how good are they!!!!!

Um, in mine ive had no problems whatsoever, think o0nly once has the winner needed 90 points to win, i had one season where the top 3 all got 81 points. Generally to me it seems to be 81-87 for a win.

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08/09 - Man Utd 85 pts

09/10 - Liverpool 91 pts

10/11 - Arsenal 81 pts

11/12 - Arsenal 86 pts

12/13 - Arsenal 95 pts

13/14 - Man City 90 pts

This is on 9.3.0....as you can see it's quite a mixed bag of points for winning the EPL. Only the 2012/13 season is the one that stands out with your theory. So I disagree with the OP.

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Tough to call this one because I'm Spurs, so I'll give the top two of my early seasons.

08 Man U 90 - Chelsea 85

09 Spurs 89 - Liverpool 81

10 Spurs 102 - Arsenal 81

11 Spurs 99 - Liverpool 73

12 Spurs 106 - Man City 75

13 Spurs 103 - Man City 72

14 Spurs 112 - Man City 88

15 Spurs 107 - Man City 78

It pretty much continues like that.

So if you pretend I'm the real Spurs and so give the guys in second another 6 points, it's still not ridiculous.

The La Liga winner usually gets 90+, in 2011 both Real and Barca got 89 :)

Ligue 1 is around 80 to win, although Lyon have broken 90 a couple of times.

Serie A about 90 too. 94 is the highest.

The Bundesliga has seen Leverkusen win with a score of 80+ every season. Although it's only a 18 team league.

So perhaps it's a little higher than normal. And you don't often get the real-life situation with a huge bunch of teams flying up and down the table (still reputation affects the game too much).

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Tough to call this one because I'm Spurs, so I'll give the top two of my early seasons.

08 Man U 90 - Chelsea 85

09 Spurs 89 - Liverpool 81

10 Spurs 102 - Arsenal 81

11 Spurs 99 - Liverpool 73

12 Spurs 106 - Man City 75

13 Spurs 103 - Man City 72

14 Spurs 112 - Man City 88

15 Spurs 107 - Man City 78

It pretty much continues like that.

So if you pretend I'm the real Spurs and so give the guys in second another 6 points, it's still not ridiculous.

The La Liga winner usually gets 90+, in 2011 both Real and Barca got 89 :)

Ligue 1 is around 80 to win, although Lyon have broken 90 a couple of times.

Serie A about 90 too. 94 is the highest.

The Bundesliga has seen Leverkusen win with a score of 80+ every season. Although it's only a 18 team league.

So perhaps it's a little higher than normal. And you don't often get the real-life situation with a huge bunch of teams flying up and down the table (still reputation affects the game too much).

You regularily get over 100 points? Magic?

edit: last Spurs game I did was FM08 (only just stopped playing it) I got 100 points once in 15 seasons (102 I think). For the most part Citeh were getting 90+ every season so I was at war with them more or less making it impossible to get 100 consistantly.

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Nah it's amazing the difference having players suited to your system makes. Both my midfielders are "sitters" and break up almost everything, whilst my wingers and strikers are brutally fast on the counter. Keep your defenders deep to avoid getting beaten by balls over the top and that's that. Almost can't go wrong.

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