dking Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dont let your performance drop! any ideas why this leaves some players confused and angered? Surley its a pretty reasonable thing to say when you have played a good first half? Dont know if this is the right place for this or if it has been mentioned before as i couldnt find anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 because the underlying meaning behind it (stupidly in my opinion) is saying basically "carry on playing well for once" implying that they normally cant keep up a performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 because the underlying meaning behind it (stupidly in my opinion) is saying basically "carry on playing well for once" implying that they normally cant keep up a performance agreed. thats bloody stupid! So what would be a good thing to say if your leading 2-0 at half time and are playing well? not much seems to keep the performance going that i have noticed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Yep. It's like telling your players you don't trust them to keep playing well unless you specifically warn them to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba Magician Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 This must be the only game where you'd rather be winning 1-0 at halftime than 2-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 This must be the only game where you'd rather be winning 1-0 at halftime than 2-0 That's exactly how it feels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 The problem with some team talk options is that they sometimes aren't clear as to what they actually mean (like this one for example). I mean, is it that hard to phrase them properly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 It’s an awful phrase, made even worse by the fact that there’s no real alternative. The only other option is to say you’re ‘pleased’ and you might as well tell the team to pack up their bags and go home at that point. I’ve no idea why you can’t have the ‘encourage’ option when leading by two goals. Like Samba said I prefer to be leading by a single goal since at least then I have some sense of influence over the second half performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 so any suggestions as to what to say at half time if leading 2-0? ive tried saying nothing and that eventually upsets somebody down the line. dissapointed? certain to make somebody spit there dummy out.. pleased? basically this is saying that we have won and take your foot off the gas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevicus Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 so any suggestions as to what to say at half time if leading 2-0?ive tried saying nothing and that eventually upsets somebody down the line. dissapointed? certain to make somebody spit there dummy out.. pleased? basically this is saying that we have won and take your foot off the gas. If you're at home say you are pleased, away, thrilled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Only good thing I find is to go to each player individually and say you have faith in them. Although the problem with that is it takes too long and you inevitably end up picking the quicker option after a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawd Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Well I didn't know that, I always asumed that telling a team not to let their performance drop, was telling them to not let their performance drop, as they have hada very good game and can go on to maul the opposition. the pleassed setting is the worst whenever I tell my players that I am pleased, if I'm up 4-0 at half time for instance, they play terribly the 2nd half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 If you're at home say you are pleased, away, thrilled. this realy doesnt work for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Only good thing I find is to go to each player individually and say you have faith in them. Although the problem with that is it takes too long and you inevitably end up picking the quicker option after a while. I do this faith bit as well, but with my attacking players only. GK, defenders and DM gets a 'Pleased' from me for a clean sheet. At least I hope it keeps attacking players trying to score another one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I rarely see a team who have had the ‘pleased’ talk go on and perform just as well if not better in the second half. When I play my pre-season friendlies I usually play a couple of non-league sides to raise a bit morale and I’m usually something like 6-0 up at half time and say pleased then either go out and finish the game 6-0 or if I’m lucky I’ll scrape a goal or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevicus Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Your team talks may have a different effect on each player depending on their personality, learn your players personalities and then use your team talks to tell them what they want to hear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbag Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 the whole team talk module needs a rework. it could be approved by being able to select a few different points/messages. that way you could give a half time talk praising the good and highlighting the bad. i am pleased with your performance, if you stay focused we can win this game your 1st half performance was shocking, we are giving the ball away to cheaply and your defending was poor, i wan't to see a big improvement in the 2nd half, i have faith in you ability to turn this around, you can win this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PjW_JJJ Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 If there was any logic behind certain teamtalks in certain circumstances they wouldn’t lose their effect simply by using them too often. What replaces the correct teamtalk when the original correct teamtalk stops working? How can it be logical and deducible? By definition, it has to be random. They should be thrown out. I cannot abide watching a poor first or second half performance if I think it’s because I got an effectively random guessing game wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 If there was any logic behind certain teamtalks in certain circumstances they wouldn’t lose their effect simply by using them too often.What replaces the correct teamtalk when the original correct teamtalk stops working? How can it be logical and deducible? By definition, it has to be random. They should be thrown out. I cannot abide watching a poor first or second half performance if I think it’s because I got an effectively random guessing game wrong. Im 100% with you on that. It should be scrapped or severly revamped. Hasnt it been the same in every version though? surley s.i should have come up with something better by now. Still loving the game though!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I want a team talk that says "Go out and get more goals!" Could work with either a one goal or multiple goal lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iacovone Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Its your tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjerome Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 absolutely despise this module of the game, poorly designed and even more limited than training etc - key components of a football management game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 2-0 up at HT? I say nothing, seems to work ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yonezzz Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 2-0 up at HT? I say nothing, seems to work ok. I recently cheated and gave my ass man god-like stats just to see what he'd say for my team talks (I'd kinda been following that Wolfsong guide, and it wasn't really producing results for me). I was two-nil up against Man U, playing well. He recommended saying nothing, but foolishly I decided to give a few individual team talks (one or two "you have faiths" and a "disappointing"), which had worked when I'd been in a similar situation. Obviously it finished two-all, and I managed to get one shot it in during the second half, with the players I'd given talks to spending a lot of the second-half "playing nervously". I'm not going to pretend I have any idea how the team talk system works, and I'm just using his decisions from now on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desolar Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I use the "Don't let your performance drop" only against big matches like derby games or UCL matches (liverpool user), and when i'm leading by 2 goals. It work wonders as the players all went fired up or looked inspired. Against normal teams, I generally go for pleased, and use individual Teamtalks, specially if 1 player was playing below par (prove a point) Think the characteristic of the team also is taken in effect as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daley Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Weird, I always use the 'don't let your performance drop' when winning at half time (home or away and against every opposition) admittedly I rarely look at the teams reaction but that is because I rarely end up losing or drawing. I do normally use the 'have faith' on those players playing well and the 'disappointed' on those that aren't so about half the team are on individual team talks so maybe that makes a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I recently cheated and gave my ass man god-like stats just to see what he'd say for my team talks (I'd kinda been following that Wolfsong guide, and it wasn't really producing results for me). I was two-nil up against Man U, playing well. He recommended saying nothing, but foolishly I decided to give a few individual team talks (one or two "you have faiths" and a "disappointing"), which had worked when I'd been in a similar situation. Obviously it finished two-all, and I managed to get one shot it in during the second half, with the players I'd given talks to spending a lot of the second-half "playing nervously".I'm not going to pretend I have any idea how the team talk system works, and I'm just using his decisions from now on. That's interesting. I follow the '2-0 - say nothing' line but do put up to 4 individual talks in. Do you feel that your assman always gives successful team-talks now? Only half-time, or pre-match too? What assman attributes did you 'tweak'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedMart Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 All players with 7.0 and above - I say "you have faith" (can encourage them to do even better) depends on personality I think. All others I say "don't let performance drop", seems to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I think it's a shame that "pick up where you left off" is only ever a team talk you can give to individual players. It would be great to be able to say it to the whole team sometimes. In fact, it seems like just the right team talk for a two-goal lead at half-time! Sadly, I imagine it would only end up being like "don't let your performance drop". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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