tranmereforever Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I love FM09 but please please please in FM2010 can they stop chairman selling your players, its so annoying! I play with Tranmere in my game ( patch to 9.3) and signed a player off Rangers for 700k in the summer, I have £4.6m balance and have a decent wage level left in my budget The jan transfer window comes and the board sell him for £1m to West Ham, its ridiculous and so frustrating when you try and build a team in the lower leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxonaitor Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 it's Real Life Mate I'm all for It anything that can make the game more real Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranmereforever Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 I dont think it is real though, in real life a board would sanction a bit of £700k only to sell him for £1m a few months later, its annoying because I could have probably negotiated a better bid for him myself - with sell ons etc Its not like we are skint in the game, we have good finances, if we were losing mass amounts of money etc then I would agree its one of those things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 it's Real Life Mate I'm all for It anything that can make the game more real FM strives to be as realistic as possible, but this goes too far. Realism is part of the fun, but the moment it becomes detrimental to the fun, we have to say no. I hate this "feature" and wish they'd do away with it. The thing is, it's a game and, when we play games, we need to be in control, or at least to have some control over things that affect us. To render us completely powerless like this is just not right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schotsmannetje Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 FM strives to be as realistic as possible, but this goes too far. Realism is part of the fun, but the moment it becomes detrimental to the fun, we have to say no. I hate this "feature" and wish they'd do away with it. The thing is, it's a game and, when we play games, we need to be in control, or at least to have some control over things that affect us. To render us completely powerless like this is just not right. Dear Mike, Isn't sitting hopelessly in your dug out while your team plays like **** the very principle of football management? Seriously though, I get your point. Realism is nice if it adds to the experience. But as soon as it degrades the fun, you have to question yourself what's more important, realism or fun? And since this is a game, I'd say fun. That's why I'm always ****ing myself with laughter every time I read a review about a shooting game. They're always saying: "This game is so realistic, it's almost real! Best shooting game ever!" I guess the reviewers find bullet wounds very pleasing then… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Dear Mike,Isn't sitting hopelessly in your dug out while your team plays like **** the very principle of football management? If so, consider me well versed in the very principle of football management! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schotsmannetje Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Haha yeah me too, I've experienced it way too often in FM! That's why you'll never hear me say that FM is unrealistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 i'm all for realism but i dont think this is realistic. the board doesn't jump at a 300k profit in a few months. they will at least try to negotiate abetter deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InzieBear Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 i am sure a few months back someone said on here how you could get round this feature.....i may be wrong (as it has never happened to me yet), but i think if you put the players value at £0, then the directors or board do not sell them, as they aren't going to sell anyone with a value of £0....something like that anyway. Maybe someone else can verify this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymondafc Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I think this feature is semi-realistic. I feel that you should be able to negotiate a higher price but for a lower league club there will always be a point when the chairman says "I can't refuse that!" and accept an offer. I agree that £300K after a couple of months is unrealistic but had the offer been £1.2M or higher then it should be accepted that the chairman would intervene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLara Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 What there should be is an option to be able to tell the board that your desprate to keep this player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeturner Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I love FM09 but please please please in FM2010 can they stop chairman selling your players, its so annoying! I play with Tranmere in my game ( patch to 9.3) and signed a player off Rangers for 700k in the summer, I have £4.6m balance and have a decent wage level left in my budget The jan transfer window comes and the board sell him for £1m to West Ham, its ridiculous and so frustrating when you try and build a team in the lower leagues Its a common occurance in the running of a lower league club. I don't think it is unrealistic at all. If anything it adds more realism in dealing with the everyday issues that you encounter with a lower league club. Also, even if you have a decent balance, the amount you have being spent on transfers over the next 12-18-24 months also affects the decision of the chairman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrari312 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I agree it's part of real life but it may need tweaking a bit given the figures involved in this example. It should also come with an "Ultimatum" button to tell your board how you feel.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schotsmannetje Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 In The Netherlands this happens all the time. Because Dutch clubs aren't the richest in the world, every time they have a gem of a player at the club the boards try to sell them ASAP, leaving a lot of managers frustrated. Enough examples. Salomon Kalou, Robin van Persie, Ryan Babel, Royston Drenthe, Collins John, Marceo Rigters, Glenn Loovens, Arjen Robben, to name but a few. None of them left with the approval of the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cemthetriton Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I think a great addition would be the opportunity for manager-board interaction, so that you can speak with your board and either plead with them to hang on to the player, or discuss possible transfer targets as replacements. If the board say "Sorry, the sale of this player is inevitable," then I think it would make it much less frustrating, and possibly even increase the realism, if you could discuss an acceptable value for the player with the board, especially with regards to your potential replacements. That way, instead of a flat fee of 1M for a promising young player that is established in your first team, you can tack on some performance-related add-ons and percentage of future transfers, and not miss out on further profits. I believe that even when boards are "forced" to sell players in real life, they don't merely agree a flat fee, and certainly not without at least letting the manager know ahead of time. Let me rephrase that - no competent board would do such a thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 FM strives to be as realistic as possible, but this goes too far. Realism is part of the fun, but the moment it becomes detrimental to the fun, we have to say no. I hate this "feature" and wish they'd do away with it. The thing is, it's a game and, when we play games, we need to be in control, or at least to have some control over things that affect us. To render us completely powerless like this is just not right. I agree to a certain extent but I do however like this feature. I've never had it where they have sold a player for a silly amount or whatever as some people complain about so I guess I'm lucky. As long as the feature works well it should stay. The next addition should be something like discussing your displeasure with the chairman, like stated above. That also help to give you some sort of relationship with the board - which is something I'd love to see more of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 This feature does need to be sorted out to work a bit better. In my Crewe game it worked very well though I bought a player for 10k and a season later he was sold for £2.5 million this makes perfect sense but I have seen alot of people complain and a 300k profit after a few months is stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranmereforever Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 The other point I should have made is at the beginning of the Jan transfer window I recieved a bid for Jack Tuyp of £1.6m, I was able to negotiate this deal and sell him which is why I coulsnt understand the board accepting a bid of £1m for a player who is younger and doing better than Tuyp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 In my first season as Leyton orient, and ive managed to get myself into a position where its looking likely i could get promoted, just reached january 13th, About to lose my leading goal scorer, my 1st and 2nd leading assist midfielders(one is also my captain), My right back, and quite possibly my other striker as ive just now received a news message saying so and so is deemed to be interested in said player, so basically my season has been sabotaged because barry hearn is a complete ****. I enjoy realism in games to an extent, perhaps a feature where we could interact with the board, and issue ultimatum's regarding player sales, such as "Sell my players and im quitting". This is just another annoyance in the latest installment of Injury media manager 2009 Cause frankly the amount of injuries for teams in this game is a joke, and the media questions are laughable too "You appear decisive on the issue.." Well thats my rant over with, does anyone know a way/solution to stop players being sold by chairman? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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