bleventozturk Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I played 4 games only so far, but I can't stop conceeding goals. I score a lot too, but I don't like to have the feeling that no matter what I do the opposition always scores at least a goal. Before patch I was conceeding 0.7 goals per game, now with the same defenders and same tactic I'm conceeding 1.5 per game, so the number of goals I conceed doubled! I checked other teams too and I see that all teams score more now. Lot of 3-1's, 3-2's 2-2's and 2-1's. Not many 1-1's and 1-0's. Out of more than 100 game I checked I've seen only 2 0-0's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwfan Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Actually, goals have come down slightly in 9.3. Must just be a coincidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Are sure, because I've had 46 1-0 wins in 226 games in charge of Lyon? Yes, I just counted it up, I am that sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleventozturk Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Are sure, because I've had 46 1-0 wins in 226 games in charge of Lyon? Yes, I just counted it up, I am that sad. You played 226 games with 9.3??? I think you misunderstood me. I've had many 1-0's in 9.2, but none with 9.3 so far. And again, it's not just me, i also check scores of AI vs AI matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 No, I was responding to wwfan saying that goals had been toned down in 9.3.0, and was merely illustrating that I atleast didn't need the goals to be turned down! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleventozturk Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Actually, goals have come down slightly in 9.3. Must just be a coincidence. I hope so, mate. Doesn't look like the case for me. 100 games played by different teams is enough sample in my opinion, and like I said most of the games end with 3-6 goals. So far I haven't seen anything less than 2-1 usually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleventozturk Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 No, I was responding to wwfan saying that goals had been toned down in 9.3.0, and was merely illustrating that I atleast didn't need the goals to be turned down! I see. You can't tune down 1-0 much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Guy! Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Since the patch, here's the Premier League results: Arsenal 4 - 1 Forest Blackburn 2 - 2 Tottenhma Derby 2 - 0 Pompey Newcastle 1 - 0 Ipswich QPR 1 - 2 Sunderland West Brom 3 - 1 Chelsea Seems fine to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david22 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Seems fine to me but maybe too little 0-0's, but nothing to be annoyed about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleventozturk Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Seems fine to me but maybe too little 0-0's, but nothing to be annoyed about Well, actually it is annoying when you are seeking realism. I just can't understand why they can't have it right. After 3 months of working on the patch, I would expect them to compare the results with real life statistics. Here, it took me only 10 minutes to get this statistics. Below you can see the REAL LIFE distribution of the scores in premier league in the last 2-3 months: In the last 111 games played: 0-0: 16 times 1-0: 22 times 1-1: 12 times 2-0: 12 times 2-1: 13 times 3-0: 11 times 2-2: 9 times 3-1: 5 times 4-0: 1 times 3-2: 4 times 4-1: 2 times 5-0: 1 times 4-2: 1 times 5-1: 2 times As you can see, 38 out of 111 games (roughly 30%) ended either 0-0 or 1-0. Now the results in FM2009 premiere and championship combined after 3rd patch: In the last 96 games played: 0-0: 7 times 1-0: 14 times 1-1: 11 times 2-0: 14 times 2-1: 19 times 3-0: 7 times 2-2: 0 times 3-1: 13 times 4-0: 2 times 3-2: 5 times 4-1: 1 times 5-0: 0 times 4-2: 0 times 5-1: 1 times 4-4: 2 times As you can see, only 21 out of 96 games (roughly 22%) ended either 0-0 or 1-0. Now, if we look at the goals per game: real life: 255 goals in 111 games = 2.30 per game FM : 254 goals in 96 games = 2.64 per game That's not a small difference. I hope it is just coincidence, and the more I play, it will get better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinJJ Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Goals have come down in 9.3, thats for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzazzad Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Now, if we look at the goals per game: real life: 255 goals in 111 games = 2.30 per game FM : 254 goals in 96 games = 2.64 per game That's not a small difference. I hope it is just coincidence, and the more I play, it will get better. Yes but you're comparing the stats to THIS season. While the real life average is 2.3 goals per game this season, the average was 3 goals a game last season. This season defenses have been on top, last season it was the other way around. The FM average falls nicely between the two extremes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB68 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Goals have come down in 9.3, thats for sure. My thoughts are that there are more goals per game so far! Only played about 12 games so far. So its hardly a comprehensive survey, but the average has been about 3.5 a game for me. Previously it was about 2.6 a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMX Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Does that 3.5 average refer to your matches only, or to all teams in the league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwfan Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Now, if we look at the goals per game:real life: 255 goals in 111 games = 2.30 per game FM : 254 goals in 96 games = 2.64 per game That's not a small difference. I hope it is just coincidence, and the more I play, it will get better. Given that goals are down roughly 0.2 to 0.4 per game per team this season compared to last, I don't think it is too big an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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