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I play an away game and have a guy on the sub list with no knocks. Game finishes and one of the mail items I get is that the same player who was fine during the game riding the pine hurt himself during practice. Of course he'll only be out for a month.

I'll have to remember to send Fiorentina a thank you note for letting me hold practice after the game at their facilities since it was an away game. Yes I'm using version 9.2, yes I don't have excessive practice time setup. I'm just tired of the endless injuries that cost me players 3-4 weeks. /end rant :D

Please I realize you have a wonderful random trigger to simulate injuries could you please limit it to realistic time periods.

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It is quite conceivable for a substitute to hurt himself after a match during warm-down. That substitute might have been warming up along the touchline during the match with the possibility of coming on, and so will definitely participate in the warm-down even if he did not feature in the match itself.

It is basically a freak accident and as long as you do not observe such injuries happening every game, it should not be dismissed as unrealistic. However rarely it happens, it is still frustrating no doubt, so you do have my sympathies. :(

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In some 20 years of playing football I can't recall anyone suffering a freak accident iafter a match. As I said, for my 2 cents pre-tax/vat/inflation/deflation/etc, while I realize the injuries add immersiveness there are times when it should not roll a check for injuries.

A 25 man squad getting decimated by injuries as it does in this game is beyond rationalizing with a "Oh it was a freak accident during a warm down. Totally typical, yada yada yada"

Otherwise squads such as Inter wouldn't have players go four years with only an annual showing on the pitch. ;)

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In some 20 years of playing football I can't recall anyone suffering a freak accident iafter a match. As I said, for my 2 cents pre-tax/vat/inflation/deflation/etc, while I realize the injuries add immersiveness there are times when it should not roll a check for injuries.

A 25 man squad getting decimated by injuries as it does in this game is beyond rationalizing with a "Oh it was a freak accident during a warm down. Totally typical, yada yada yada"

Otherwise squads such as Inter wouldn't have players go four years with only an annual showing on the pitch. ;)

By the way, a freak accident is exactly what the name suggest, an aberration or something not of the norm. That is not the same as saying it is "typical". It being "realistic" is possible though.

Players get injured during warm-ups like Deco earlier in the season if you think about it. While warm-downs are of a lesser intensity than warm-ups, the chances of players tripping and dislocating/twisting an ankle, straining a muscle, etc are still there.

I would think the only times outside of matches your players are absolutely 'immune' to injuries are when they are on holiday and when you give them rest away from training. If you feel your squad has already suffered too many injuries while the matches are coming up fast and furious, do not be afraid of imposing 1-3 days' or even a week's worth of rest on them, especially those of lesser physical conditioning.

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A freak accident is exactly what the name suggest, an aberration or something not of the norm. Players get injured during warm-ups like Deco earlier in the season if you think about it. While warm-downs are of a lesser intensity than warm-ups, the chances of players tripping and dislocating/twisting an ankle, straining a muscle, etc are still there.

Freak accident means it isn't common right? That's the problem, they happen on a regular basis.

I've sent three players to the specialist. I've had to raid the reserves/under 20s in the 2nd and 3rd games of the season to get 7 subs on the bench. I've had two games with three players getting injured. Oh wait, wait I can here it now. "Stoke City had to sub out three injured players in the first 27 minutes this weekend." Yes, I know that. I'm saying even after fixing the injury bug the injuries are out of hand. I'll have the occasional season where I enjoy being able to play an entire season without having to field whatever warm body is at hand. However most of the time this is simply not the case.

Yes I do manage my players carefully and sub out any player who gets under 80% or looks like they are about to get there. I'll change the tempo of the games to avoid getting under 75%.

I enjoy this game, play it way too much. However the modeling of the injuries is asinine at the least. I could only wish a couple of my first coaches had babied me as much as I must my players.

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Freak accident means it isn't common right? That's the problem, they happen on a regular basis.

I've sent three players to the specialist. I've had to raid the reserves/under 20s in the 2nd and 3rd games of the season to get 7 subs on the bench. I've had two games with three players getting injured. Oh wait, wait I can here it now. "Stoke City had to sub out three injured players in the first 27 minutes this weekend." Yes, I know that. I'm saying even after fixing the injury bug the injuries are out of hand. I'll have the occasional season where I enjoy being able to play an entire season without having to field whatever warm body is at hand. However most of the time this is simply not the case.

Yes I do manage my players carefully and sub out any player who gets under 80% or looks like they are about to get there. I'll change the tempo of the games to avoid getting under 75%.

I enjoy this game, play it way too much. However the modeling of the injuries is asinine at the least. I could only wish a couple of my first coaches had babied me as much as I must my players.

When you mention "regular basis", you do mean match or training injuries right? Not the one your unused substitute suffered away at Fiorentina. That was what I was referring to with it being a "freak accident". If you get a lot of your unused substitutes injured after matches, you most definitely would want to post it up in the Bugs Forum.

For your other injuries, could some of it be down to the players themselves being injury-prone? I have a couple of players who most definitely score high on the 'injury-prone' attribute as they often break down.

Another possibility could be your training? Did you set your strength and aerobic training too high for your players? It is mentioned that having a higher intensity physical training would lead to a higher risk of getting training injuries and possibly match injuries too.

How about your tactical instructions when it comes to tackling? I think having it set as 'Hard' tackling could possibly lead to a higher risk of injuries sustained during matches, but I cannot confirm the legitimacy of this though. Maybe someone else can.

If none of the above are at fault, perhaps it could just be down to poor luck. Perhaps if you give it a couple more seasons, you could find injuries to be less of a bother then.

All these are assuming you are fully patched up to 9.2.0 though, which you are right? Because the game at release and some say even 9.1.0 was bugged with a higher frequency of injuries sustained.

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By the way, a freak accident is exactly what the name suggest, an aberration or something not of the norm. That is not the same as saying it is "typical". It being "realistic" is possible though.

Players get injured during warm-ups like Deco earlier in the season if you think about it. While warm-downs are of a lesser intensity than warm-ups, the chances of players tripping and dislocating/twisting an ankle, straining a muscle, etc are still there.

I would think the only times outside of matches your players are absolutely 'immune' to injuries are when they are on holiday and when you give them rest away from training. If you feel your squad has already suffered too many injuries while the matches are coming up fast and furious, do not be afraid of imposing 1-3 days' or even a week's worth of rest on them, especially those of lesser physical conditioning.

When you mention "regular basis", you do mean match or training injuries right? Not the one your unused substitute suffered away at Fiorentina. That was what I was referring to with it being a "freak accident". If you get a lot of your unused substitutes injured after matches, you most definitely would want to post it up in the Bugs Forum.

For your other injuries, could some of it be down to the players themselves being injury-prone? I have a couple of players who most definitely score high on the 'injury-prone' attribute as they often break down.

Another possibility could be your training? Did you set your strength and aerobic training too high for your players? It is mentioned that having a higher intensity physical training would lead to a higher risk of getting training injuries and possibly match injuries too.

How about your tactical instructions when it comes to tackling? I think having it set as 'Hard' tackling could possibly lead to a higher risk of injuries sustained during matches, but I cannot confirm the legitimacy of this though. Maybe someone else can.

If none of the above are at fault, perhaps it could just be down to poor luck. Perhaps if you give it a couple more seasons, you could find injuries to be less of a bother then.

All these are assuming you are fully patched up to 9.2.0 though, which you are right? Because the game at release and some say even 9.1.0 was bugged with a higher frequency of injuries sustained.

Thanks for ignoring where I qualified my injuries by stating my training and the fact I am on 9.2 :cool:

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Thanks for ignoring where I qualified my injuries by stating my training and the fact I am on 9.2 :cool:

My bad on the 9.2.0 bit haha, was looking out for it in all your posts except the opening one doh.

About the training though, I was referring to just the 'Strength' and 'Aerobic' regimes. It is actually viable to have high intensity training for the technical aspects of training and a low to moderate intensity for physical training and not suffer the risks of training injuries. SI have mentioned that it is the physical training portion that increases the risks of sustaining training injuries.

This is why my players are on a high overall training workload with the physical aspects set to medium, and I have yet to notice a worrying trend with injuries sustained. And as I have said before, I never shy away from giving my players a total break from training when the need arises.

The rest of my queries do still stand though, about tackling, injury-proneness, and just it being downright bad luck.

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I don't even think I have them set at medium actually, the aerobic/strength.

Still the message said it was an injury in practice not an injury in warm down. Please stop checking for injuries in practice after match day, especially on away days. ;)

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