uppercut Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 is it really worth spending the 10% of your training to get someone to natural for the X amount of time it takes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 In theory, accomplished is 90% the ability of natural. In practice, I can't say I ever notice any difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kreman Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I have never really bothered to take it that next bit further to a 'natural' position. In fact, when i have tried it, it took about 2 years so as long as they are doing their job at 'acomplished' level, i am happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmfaria Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Can you really make a player improve from "acomplished"? I've never seen it happening. Once they get to acomplishd level (if thay're not from the beginning) they don't improve anymore. Please correct me if i am wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-platt Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Can you really make a player improve from "acomplished"? I've never seen it happening. Once they get to acomplishd level (if thay're not from the beginning) they don't improve anymore. Please correct me if i am wrong. That is the case I believe, because natural is the position that they will be 'naturally' (sorry, really cannot think of another word this morning!) Accomplised would be that they have been trained to a great level to play in that position, but they did not know it when they were very younger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 you can get them to natural eventually, it takes a lot of position training and IIRC they need to have a certain number base rate for that position (around 17 i think), there is a few threads out there on it if you do a search Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-platt Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 you can get them to natural eventually, it takes a lot of position training and IIRC they need to have a certain number base rate for that position (around 17 i think), there is a few threads out there on it if you do a search Well I never knew that, been playing FM's for years now and always find something that I did not know! Cheers mate;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 That is the case I believe, because natural is the position that they will be 'naturally' (sorry, really cannot think of another word this morning!) Accomplised would be that they have been trained to a great level to play in that position, but they did not know it when they were very younger No, you can change a player's positional ability from accomplished to natural. As far as I know your player needs to be reasonably young, versatile, and be both trained and played in the new position consistently. I've definitely altered Younousse Sankhare's position this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchaldinho Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 you can get them to natural eventually, it takes a lot of position training and IIRC they need to have a certain number base rate for that position (around 17 i think), there is a few threads out there on it if you do a search Can you provide a link as I'm really curious about this. (I've done a search but don't seem to be putting in the right key words to get anything up). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay10 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Yes iv seen this happen for a few players. Iv managed to retrain a few AML/AMR players to be natural at ML/MR. Also manged to retrain some AMC's to become natural at FC. Their goals output has increased a lot, so the retraining may be a factor, even though their 'striker' attributes havent really improved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Playing in a natural position will give opportunity to use 100% of their ability and 90% in the accomplished position I would have thought..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupal Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I've just trained an AMR to 'accomplished' as a ST (when I signed him, he was 'competent'). It actually took a surprisingly short time for him to make that jump - 3 friendlies, 4 Serie C cup games and 2 league matches. I hope that this means that he is adaptable enough not to take too long to become 'natural' at it. Will see! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uppercut Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 ^^ i find getting to accomplished isnt too much hardship, its that final step to natural which seems to take its sweet time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_132 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 i didn't think it was possible for a player to learn to become "natural" in a position. Because if they are accomplished in a certain position you cannot choose it on the list for change position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfpunk Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I've managed to retrain Ashley Young to ML as his natural position in just under a season. That was with him playing there every single week, so that definetly helps! I'm hoping to retrain Gareth Barry to be a natural DMC but i've just got him at accomplished at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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